Replicel Is On Fire Lately — Data In Feb.

[byebyehair]

First of all:

@Long John Silver it is getting harder and harder to see you as a troll but i m a scaptical person.
But to show my good will... when rch-01 is available in japan drinks are on me buddy.

Lets not freak out about delays. Here is a short sketch of what happend please add or correct me if i got something wrong.
- @Long John Silver reported something of a two year delay (which now seems like a comunication problem like the 5%)
- people on the internet repeated the claim of 2 years delay what made it look like there are several sources but infact i think most can be traced back to the conference long john attended.
- Lee still says data readout should be soon. (He is stupid but not as stupid as saying sh*t that comes back at him soon) A rule of thumb is if you lie about something make sure people will find out it is a lie when they don t remember you said it. That s why i have little hope he has some kind of information.
Last thing is

Shiseido has been running this clinical trial on 66 patients with the help from Dr. Tsuboi (Tokyo Medical University Hospital) and Dr. Niiyama (Toho University Medical Center Omori Hospital) since June, 2016 and the result of this study is inconclusive at the moment as it’s still in the middle of the trial.

if i would say in my mother tongue that we are stil doing the trial and someone ould translate it to english it would be easy to interpret is as we are halfway there ... So hopefully that happened and results are available within this year.

 

[Fgsfds]

I wonder how RCH-01 would handle growth stimulants like Histogen. Imagine if it could strengthen the neogenesis'd follicles to stay after discontinuing the growth stim, and make them permanent.

 

[alibaba92]

I have trusted Shiseido with their 2018 commercialization goal and got disappointed. I’d like them to be more transparent for us. Why they cant give us a f*****g update of the trials when they will be finished? CEO Masahiko Uotani is only speaking about his f*****g second Skin Technologie. Never he mentioned hair loss research... this is all sh*t!

You are as over-exaggerating as always. 2018 was always the BEST scenario, and yet, BEST never happens, thats OK. Japanese honor their words, once they spoke, they must be confident about what they are declaring.
RCH was never their top priority because the market is so small compared to hair loss market. When will / can you understand that simple thing ? You are balding does not mean every one is balding. Skin, however, a huge cash-cow industry.

 

[alibaba92]

Right. Shiseido is doing the efficacy trial and it was supposed to last 2 years. It started in 2016 and thats why Replicel (buckler) says they should release results soon.

All this new info is very contradicting..

Mr. Lizard, I wonder, why they did not report a 5-year efficacy since they have already reached 5-year follow-up (and this is precious since not so many studies can last this long) ? Looking at 2-year efficacy, it seems like the treatment is NOT permanent and losing its efficacy over time and we got to inject our scalp for the rest of our life. Maybe after 5-years, every body is below baseline again ?

 

[br1]

Mr. Lizard, I wonder, why they did not report a 5-year efficacy since they have already reached 5-year follow-up (and this is precious since not so many studies can last this long) ? Looking at 2-year efficacy, it seems like the treatment is NOT permanent and losing its efficacy over time and we got to inject our scalp for the rest of our life. Maybe after 5-years, every body is below baseline again ?

I believe because the study is designed with different variables to be observed, different doses, frequencies etc. They could report efficacy, but it would be not the same thing as the real dose/frequency of when targeting efficacy. Right?

 

[Mighty]

I want something like 20%+. A minimum of 15%.

The improvement must be visible. I need to look at the mirror and think: "Wow, this really made a difference." If Shiseido says that "5%" is the best they do and Tsuji says the word "delay", I am going to stock finasteride for world ending events.

 

[alibaba92]

I believe because the study is designed with different variables to be observed, different doses, frequencies etc. They could report efficacy, but it would be not the same thing as the real dose/frequency of when targeting efficacy. Right?

Yeah, but I am very interested to see, how long can a super high dose shot last. Nevertheless, I strongly believe, we need to inject as long as we want hair though.

 

[ScaredOfBalding]

It's over for RepliCELS.

 

[br1]

It's over for RepliCELS.

Cool. Dont know if you realize it's then over for us as well.

 

[alibaba92]

Cool. Dont know if you realize it's then over for us as well.

What happened ?

 

[br1]

What happened ?

Nothing. I guess.
Just another day at the hairloss forum.

 

[ScaredOfBalding]

Ppl disliking quicker than their hair falling out. It was a joke, get over it.

 

[zyzzalive]

what is the latest news? Havent followed in 6 months. Only what I see is people hating

 

[BaldAndBalder]

I don't understand why anyone would be hyped about this, i'v seen placebo with more then 5% improvement.
My guess is the "improvement" comes from the additional blood flow caused by the injection itself and not whats inside.
its basically a PRP 2.0, nothing to see here.

 

[BalderBaldyBald]

Lel

 

[ToLGuy]

Mr. Lizard, I wonder, why they did not report a 5-year efficacy since they have already reached 5-year follow-up (and this is precious since not so many studies can last this long) ? Looking at 2-year efficacy, it seems like the treatment is NOT permanent and losing its efficacy over time and we got to inject our scalp for the rest of our life. Maybe after 5-years, every body is below baseline again ?

Looking at the 2 year efficacy? Seems like losing efficacy? Where did you see those results? I thought that subjects were above baseline 2 years post injection. Where are you guys getting this info? I'm lost here

 

[alibaba92]

Looking at the 2 year efficacy? Seems like losing efficacy? Where did you see those results? I thought that subjects were above baseline 2 years post injection. Where are you guys getting this info? I'm lost here

https://replicel.com/20170314-2/

They lost what they regrew after 2 years.

 

[ToLGuy]

https://replicel.com/20170314-2/

They lost what they regrew after 2 years.

Thanks for the link. I just read it but I cannot confirm your claim. At 2 years, it is stated that they are ABOVE baseline, but about 1-2 percent points below the density they had at 6 months. How is that congruent with "they lost what they regret"?.

That is just demonstrating maintenence, which is awesome for a treatment in which we don't have to take a pill and apply a liquid every single day of our life.

 

[alibaba92]

Thanks for the link. I just read it but I cannot confirm your claim. At 2 years, it is stated that they are ABOVE baseline, but about 1-2 percent points below the density they had at 6 months. How is that congruent with "they lost what they regret"?.

That is just demonstrating maintenence, which is awesome for a treatment in which we don't have to take a pill and apply a liquid every single day of our life.

The regrowth was not permanent, thats why I said "they lost what they REGREW", I never said "they lost what they MAINTAINED". It keeps going down over the years. Who knows how long can it last before it falls below baseline again ? Yet, they did not talk about efficacy for 5-years, why, maybe below baseline ? Who knows ?

 

[R_gesus]

Also, you have to consider that this trial wasn’t set up for dosing. I know it I sound like a broken record, but I feel it is important to consider. Maybe they will figure out how to dose correctly, and that maintenance will go from two to five years. Maybe not. Judging the efficacy of a treatment on phase one trials is a slippery slope. One that many people, myself included, cannot help but do. Hopefully we get some new results soon so as to further shed light on this treatment. Fingers crossed!