RIKEN Announcement: Succeeded in Developing Tech for HF Regenerative Medicine: Study to be Published Feb 10

[Pls_NW-1]

I just found out that the twitter account posted pictures from 2016. Thats just WEIRD reposting old stuff. Xd

 

[werefckd]

You claimed that the reason they went bankrupt/fail was because of the fail of their technology. That’s not true. They succeeded. They were stopped due to other factors. That’s all. Sooner rather than later you will thank Organ for laying down the groundwork so that you can get this procedure done in 10 years. They deserve to be treated with respect.

Stating (the obvious,) that the main reason that the company went bankrupt is because research stalled for many years is not disrespectful bro. Stuff like that happens in the business world all the time.

 

[SAMY]

2100

 

[byebyehair]

my final statement. After that I have to learn again. You are pretending to have negative news today. The preclinical study is complete and the right studies are about to begin. We have never been that far. The work was published in Nature, which has very strict requirements. The only negative is that it was just mice. I believe.

and dont forget, getting a paper accepted by nature probably takes between 6-12 month. Meaning the content of the paper is already "old news"

 

[werefckd]

and dont forget, getting a paper accepted by nature probably takes between 6-12 month. Meaning the content of the paper is already "old news"

"PS: Scientific Reports (SR) is not Nature, it is one of tons of journals owned by Nature, but it does not have the same quality. Some choose to publish there when rejected by Nature, while others send SR because it is open access and want a broader readership, especially if you want to attract investors." - @waynakyo

 

[werefckd]

You're looking at it the wrong way. They used Organ to develop the technology. Now they have a working technology for hair multiplication, and a fresh start without any obligations, debt or otherwise.

Sure. It was the plan all along: stall research for many years, bankrupt Organ, make investors lose all the invested money.

Then do a "fresh start" while literately asking for donations and a new partner for clinical trials

Lol these stories are so entertaining, please keep the fairy tales coming Pegasus

 

[werefckd]

"Our culture system establishes a method for cyclical regeneration of hair follicles from hair follicle stem cells," says Tsuji, "and will help make hair follicle regeneration therapy a reality in the near future." As preclinical animal-safety tests using these cultured cells were completed in 2019, the next step in the process is clinical trials."

"RIKEN is primarily an institute that does basic research," explains Tsuji. "And clinical trials usually require outside collaborators. We are therefore looking for a partner company to help develop the clinical applications and welcome donations to promote the R&D."

Interesting. Tsuji said that they completed safety tests back in 2019. I wonder why they didn't do any kind of announcements regarding that back then or in 2020.

Also, he also said they are looking for "donations", not investments. I wonder if the wording he used is deliberate.

 

[werefckd]

Why have you (randomly) put obvious in brackets? haha

If you remove the bracketed word from the sentence, the sentence should still make sense.. plus 'stating the obvious' is a phrase.

Once again, the notion that they closed down to stagnated research alone is unsubstantiated and far from obvious considering its funded by a government that got hit by covid.

You are making a big confusion here. It's Riken that is funded by the gov, and they are still going.

Organ was a private co that had private investors. It's beside the point, but if they already had investment from the government please share here the source of that info otherwise you are totally making things up.

 

[werefckd]

I put the comma after the "obvious" that was missing, happy now grammar police

 

[werefckd]

Another interesting, kinda of trivial fact.

Tsuji is still using mouse cells in his research. I wonder if his findings would translate to human cells.

Stemson is using human DP cells (at least) already.

 

[Tom4362]

2100

Thats my elo rating, lol

 

[werefckd]

Stating (the obvious,) that the main reason that the company went bankrupt is because research stalled for many years is not disrespectful bro. Stuff like that happens in the business world all the time.

Both sentences work

 

[jan_miezda]

armondo jose said that in their 2019 trials they didn't establish hair cycling and throughput rate during follicle formation in vitro

"Our culture system establishes a method for cyclical regeneration of hair follicles from hair follicle stem cells," says Tsuji, "and will help make hair follicle regeneration therapy a reality in the near future." As preclinical animal-safety tests using these cultured cells were completed in 2019, the next step in the process is clinical trials."

"RIKEN is primarily an institute that does basic research," explains Tsuji. "And clinical trials usually require outside collaborators. We are therefore looking for a partner company to help develop the clinical applications and welcome donations to promote the R&D."

Interesting. Tsuji said that they completed safety tests back in 2019. I wonder why they didn't do any kind of announcements regarding that back then or in 2020.

Also, he also said they are looking for "donations", not investments. I wonder if the wording he used is deliberate.

 

[frank33]

Another interesting, kinda of trivial fact.

Tsuji is still using mouse cells in his research. I wonder if his findings would translate to human cells.

Stemson is using human DP cells (at least) already.

Unfortunately this means we could see every finding being useless when transferred to humans, as many times has already happened in the hair loss research wolrd.

 

[Isneezedsohard]

Checking in-- why the f*** are we talking about grammar now? How the f*** did we get this off track?

 

[werefckd]

Nope lol

Not my fault you can't read

 

[werefckd]

Checking in-- why the f*** are we talking about grammar now? How the f*** did we get this off track?

So lame

 

[werefckd]

Still going round in circles, Riken was government funded as you stated. Who do you think was doing the mass of the funding?
Also please apply the same rule to yourself, as your the one who's making claims constantly without verifiable proof.

Here kitty:


ITOCHU Corporation ("ITOCHU", Head office: Minato-ku, Tokyo, President and COO: Yoshihisa Suzuki), Mitsui & Co., Ltd. ("Mitsui", Head office: Chiyoda-ku, Tokyo, President and CEO: Tatsuo Yasunaga),and Iyogin Capital Company Limited. ("IC company", Head office: Matsuyama-city, Ehime, Representative Director: Kenichi Oizumi) have invested approximately \590million to subscribe to a third-party allotment of new shares by Organ Technologies Inc. ("OT company", Head office: Minato-ku, Tokyo, President: Yasuhiro Sugimura) .

ITOCHU to Invest in Regenerative Medicine Company Organ Technologies Inc. | Press Releases | ITOCHU Corporation

Provides information about [ITOCHU to Invest in Regenerative Medicine Company Organ Technologies Inc.]. ITOCHU, one of the leading sogo shosha, is engaging in domestic trading, import/export, and overseas trading of various products such as textile, machinery, metals, minerals, energy...

www.itochu.co.jp

Your turn now. Are you going to post the sources to back your claims or are you just making things up on the go

 

[werefckd]

Unfortunately this means we could see every finding being useless when transferred to humans, as many times has already happened in the hair loss research wolrd.

Thats my biggest concern. We have been there so.many.times.

 

[werefckd]

Look guys, i will try saying it again.

I'm happy Tsuji is still in this fight and he made an important step in the right direction. That's the tone I'm finishing with as of now.

I promise that I WILL resist the temptation to reply to every gullible non sense I read here, for the greater good.

We need just a little more patience but good times are coming guys, and this is what matters. Go Tsuji, go Stemson