RIKEN Announcement: Succeeded in Developing Tech for HF Regenerative Medicine: Study to be Published Feb 10

werefckd

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I don't think anyone got mad at you for that. People take issue with you using organ's failure as confirmation that Tsuji's method failed. We can see now that it didn't. It appears that Organ just couldn't remain solvent long enough.
They couldn't stay solvent enough because they couldn't raise additional funds. They couldn't raise additional funds because the research moved slower than they thought and encountered roadblocks probably.

But that was to be expected and the management of Organ should have prepared for that. So I agree that it was Organ's management fault at least partially.
 

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It was really strange that Tsuji went into total silent mode about that research for years even though he was still working on it. Perhaps the fall out that was happening with Organ's management had something to it.
 

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It was really strange that Tsuji went into total silent mode about that research for years even though he was still working on it. Perhaps the fall out that was happening with Organ's management had something to it.
I think they didn't need to raise hype that much, compared to companies constantly in need of seeking investors, like stemson.
 

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I think they didn't need to raise hype that much, compared to companies constantly in need of seeking investors, like stemson.
If you are pre revenue biotech company/project you will always be in fundraising mode, no matter who you are
 

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Not sure if they mean the tests in mice showed it to be safe in humans --- or that they already did some tests on humans and it went fine?
 

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Not sure if they mean the tests in mice showed it to be safe in humans --- or that they already did some tests on humans and it went fine?
They said preclinical safety test, so nothing actually on humans yet. But they proved safety for the upcoming human trial.
 

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According to the team, they are already ready for clinical studies to transplant into patients with alopecia to confirm their safety and efficacy. However, since the venture company that was scheduled to be implemented stopped its business due to the influence of the new corona, etc., it started soliciting cooperating companies and donations from the 10th. Team leader Takashi Tsuji said, "I want to put it to practical use as soon as possible and improve the quality of life for people suffering from hair loss."

Everything is a go. They just need $4.8 million.
 

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Everything is a go. They just need $4.8 million.
don't you think thats a weird thing to broadcast?

shouldn't that be chump change for a research and development company?
 

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"I wrote to the RIKEN team and suggested using GoFundme or contacting Allergan for investment. The latter has invested in 4-5 hair loss companies in recent years. Allergan gave $25 million to Exicure. And potential milestone payments of $265 million. RIKEN needs $4.8 million.

Surprisingly, RIKEN replied to me right away. They were interested in my introducing them to the Allergan team, so I will need to figure that one out! More importantly, they said that they have created the below two links for those who want to donate:"


lol, but nice
lol wut

this sounds like a scam tbqh
 

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don't you think thats a weird thing to broadcast?

shouldn't that be chump change for a research and development company?
They could raise the money in a week with the right connections. Raising that much through donations won't be easy.
 

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We will see how much Riken believes in Tsuji's research, based on what allotment of their budget is given to them. We all know Riken has the money but will they have the same vision as Tsuji's team? maybe they don't care for cosmetical issues. Both stemson and Tsuji has stopped/slowed down by funding now
 

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They are not stupid. I assume they had to resort to donations because the other channels are closed for them, for whatever reason that may be.
 

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or they should just contact J. Hewitt, I heard he did such tasks very reliably.

Joking aside, my greatest hope is in Kyocera.
They can afford 4 million easily

I know you're joking, but I don't think J. Hewitt would want to help their competition get going unless Tsuji gave them the same rights Tissuse did.
 

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Why would they do it for free when they started as bussniess partner .
Do you even have an idea how many papers and talks there is behind the 2016 aggrement between organ , kyocera , and tsuji?
They probbly already talked about money and everything .
This thing will make billions and billion each year! The hairloss cure is gold mine.
It does have an expiration date though. Within 20 years I think we will have a cheap and effective immunization against Androgenetic Alopecia, so the pool of customers will be reduced to those who suffer from other types of hair loss and burn victims.
 

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True, Shiseido would be great.
but why should they do that for free
but their team can propose a business model to deliver it in clinics for mass people after funding clinical trials. Aderans have the infrastructure to transition this tech into transplant clinics
 
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