This begs the question of what to do now regarding hair transplants? I see little reason that it won't work as expected in trials, especially if they already did a safety test in a human, as they said on Twitter. It is also expected that this will work on scars, but we don't have evidence of that yet. If we can count on both of these conditions being met, then getting a FUE right now becomes a lot more attractive. We can always get HM down the road to repair the density in our donor area. So assuming things go as planned, what are the downsides to getting an FUE now besides wasting 40k moving hairs around just to replace them in a couple years(optimistically)?
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RIKEN Announcement: Succeeded in Developing Tech for HF Regenerative Medicine: Study to be Published Feb 10
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Seriously, I went from being excited about this to mildly depressed at what a joke they are coming off as.I'm just imagining the admin calling Allergan customer service and asking for the manager.
Yeah not going to lie I'd probably get a FUE with a front dense pack if this looked to be on the horizon guaranteed. I'd rather have a mixture of real native hair in the area anyways just incase.This begs the question of what to do now regarding hair transplants? I see little reason that it won't work as expected in trials, especially if they already did a safety test in a human, as they said on Twitter. It is also expected that this will work on scars, but we don't have evidence of that yet. If we can count on both of these conditions being met, then getting a FUE right now becomes a lot more attractive. We can always get HM down the road to repair the density in our donor area. So assuming things go as planned, what are the downsides to getting an FUE now besides wasting 40k moving hairs around just to replace them in a couple years(optimistically)?
I understand, but they are researchers, not businessmen. They will get in touch with the right people soon enough, don't worry about that.Seriously, I went from being excited about this to mildly depressed at what a joke they are coming off as.
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do you really think they did a safety test in humans? or they assumed the work in mice would mean the procedure is safe to use in humans?This begs the question of what to do now regarding hair transplants? I see little reason that it won't work as expected in trials, especially if they already did a safety test in a human, as they said on Twitter. It is also expected that this will work on scars, but we don't have evidence of that yet. If we can count on both of these conditions being met, then getting a FUE right now becomes a lot more attractive. We can always get HM down the road to repair the density in our donor area. So assuming things go as planned, what are the downsides to getting an FUE now besides wasting 40k moving hairs around just to replace them in a couple years(optimistically)?
I've been wanting to regrow more hair before getting my FUE so as not to completely exhaust my donor, but now that we know that HM is indeed possible, I'm probably not going to wait any longer.Yeah not going to lie I'd probably get a FUE with a front dense pack if this looked to be on the horizon guaranteed. I'd rather have a mixture of real native hair in the area anyways just incase.
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This begs the question of what to do now regarding hair transplants? I see little reason that it won't work as expected in trials, especially if they already did a safety test in a human, as they said on Twitter. It is also expected that this will work on scars, but we don't have evidence of that yet. If we can count on both of these conditions being met, then getting a FUE right now becomes a lot more attractive. We can always get HM down the road to repair the density in our donor area. So assuming things go as planned, what are the downsides to getting an FUE now besides wasting 40k moving hairs around just to replace them in a couple years(optimistically)?
I mean it's not a bad idea to get a transplant now regardless as it'll give years of peace of mind until there are further developments in this. I'd get one if I had the money and was just receding rather than thinning all over the top
The tweet does say that they tested in human, but I'm still not 100% sure that it's not a translation error. Japanese to English is very difficult.I mean they already now if its works cuz they tested on human.
but as everything they need more time to make it perfect and probbly do it on a large scale so that the reason for more reaserch.
about the risk of fue . Its a dumb risk untill there is a price for it and you know they can deliver hairs that looks real and good.
I get that, but the fact that this is how they chose to go about it tells me that their science isn't as promising as they are hyping up, or at a minimum that they are going at this completely blind. Even the most non-business oriented researchers with promising technology have enough sense to hire a business manager to secure this type of funding before the data is even published.I understand, but they are researchers, not businessmen. They will get in touch with the right people soon enough, don't worry about that.
If this was the big ticket item that it's presented as they wouldn't have to get intouch with the right people, they would publish the data and they would be fielding calls non-stop. I've literally seen it happen.
That's what they did. The calls will come. Maybe they're doing it this way to generate as much attention as they can to give themselves more negotiating power. Everyone will want to get in on this. If I had the 4.8 million to invest I'd have been in touch with them already, but I would want shares in the business and I don't think they will accept that kind of deal.I get that, but the fact that this is how they chose to go about it tells me that their science isn't as promising as they are hyping up, or at a minimum that they are going at this completely blind. Even the most non-business oriented researchers with promising technology have enough sense to hire a business manager to secure this type of funding before the data is even published.
If this was the big ticket item that it's presented as they wouldn't have to get intouch with the right people, they would publish the data and they would be fielding calls non-stop. I've literally seen it happen.
Stemson created private company and hire professionals to chase big pharma companies. They didn’t ask for donations from YouTube bloggers.That's what they did. The calls will come. Maybe they're doing it this way to generate as much attention as they can to give themselves more negotiating power. Everyone will want to get in on this. If I had the 4.8 million to invest I'd have been in touch with them already, but I would want shares in the business and I don't think they will accept that kind of deal.
Stemson needs 15 million to test on some pigs. This is for hair and teeth. Clinical trials aren't cheap, I don't think 5 million is too much.Maybe I am not too smart or familiar, but I don’t see what is the problem to get 5 bald persons, multiply their stem cells and see if this treatment works on humans? For that you don’t need 5 million dollars.
Tsuji did the same with Organ Tech. I don't know why they are doing it this way now, but they aren't scammers.Stemson created private company and hire professionals to chase big pharma companies. They didn’t ask for donations from YouTube bloggers.
Are you not the same person I debated in the Samumed thread because you thought they were a shitty company because they didn't raise funds through venture capital and instead found private funding in the tune of several hundreds of millions? What we are seeing here makes Samumed look like the most respectable and sophisticated organization that ever existed.That's what they did. The calls will come. Maybe they're doing it this way to generate as much attention as they can to give themselves more negotiating power. Everyone will want to get in on this. If I had the 4.8 million to invest I'd have been in touch with them already, but I would want shares in the business and I don't think they will accept that kind of deal.
Ironically you're going to see that the people who had the easiest time raising money are the least legit.Are you not the same person I debated in the Samumed thread because you thought they were a shitty company because they didn't raise funds through venture capital and instead found private funding in the tune of several hundreds of millions? What we are seeing here makes Samumed look like the most respectable and sophisticated organization that ever existed.
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this is the reason they received less money I think. they said it themselves so it must be true:
"Up until now, Japan's regenerative medicine research has focused on "regenerative medicine for life" (such as intractable diseases) with a large amount of government funding. However, hair and teeth, which are not directly related to one's own health and “life” per se, are also important issues for people's quality of life (QOL), and the regenerative medicine for hair and teeth that we are promoting is truly "regenerative medicine for everyone"."
maybe they are inferring that Riken views it as a cosmetic issue (even if they don't consider it themselves)
"Up until now, Japan's regenerative medicine research has focused on "regenerative medicine for life" (such as intractable diseases) with a large amount of government funding. However, hair and teeth, which are not directly related to one's own health and “life” per se, are also important issues for people's quality of life (QOL), and the regenerative medicine for hair and teeth that we are promoting is truly "regenerative medicine for everyone"."
maybe they are inferring that Riken views it as a cosmetic issue (even if they don't consider it themselves)
Ironically, I personally work on a capital markets floor that allocates billions to the public/private sectors, and what you are saying right now is total bunk lol. If I showed those tweets to the private sector teams they would have a field day at the lack of professionalism. They're doing themselves more harm then good.Ironically you're going to see that the people who had the easiest time raising money are the least legit.