RIKEN Announcement: Succeeded in Developing Tech for HF Regenerative Medicine: Study to be Published Feb 10

MeDK

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I genuinely don't understand why hair regeneration research always struggles so hard for money. Jeff Bezos made $12m per hour this year. He is an extreme example but there are thousands of other super-richies. They could fund this research so easily.

I don't expect those psychopaths to do it for noble reasons. But it's a long-term reliable cash cow if something works. New balding guys are born every day.

Its easy.

What would you rather invest your money into.

A, a steady ROI every year.
B, a maybe ROI in 10 - 20 years.

You don't get rich by making silly investments, sure you need to take a risk to make huge gains. But people that have gained those money, didn't get there in their sleep.

Like another billioniare once said about people wanting him to invest in their start up. He would ask, did you risk your own house, if no, then why should he take a huge risk, that the startup didn't even want to do themself in the first place.
 

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Yeah isn’t Bezos paying attention? I bet if he had hair his wife would have been less likely to leave him, he would have been a more genetically attractive male. He could give Tsuji all the money he needs tomorrow.
Dude Bezos cheated on his wife with an ex-TV anchor. The guy doesn't give a sh*t about hair or he'd have solved the problem by himself already (with his money through his own companies initiatives).
 

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Its easy.

What would you rather invest your money into.

A, a steady ROI every year.
B, a maybe ROI in 10 - 20 years.

You don't get rich by making silly investments, sure you need to take a risk to make huge gains. But people that have gained those money, didn't get there in their sleep.

Like another billioniare once said about people wanting him to invest in their start up. He would ask, did you risk your own house, if no, then why should he take a huge risk, that the startup didn't even want to do themself in the first place.

I understand the risk factor. But the payoff would be so goddamn high.

What's the size of the market for REAL practical hair regrowth? The truth is nobody has any idea, no matter what they claim. There has never been a non-shitty treatment before.
 

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I understand the risk factor. But the payoff would be so goddamn high.

What's the size of the market for REAL practical hair regrowth? The truth is nobody has any idea, no matter what they claim. There has never been a non-shitty treatment before.
Balding women, women that tend to kill their hair while bleaching it, thin hair, low hair quality, lack of vitamins and minerals etc. a lot of women could use this too, so market ain't just for bald ugly men.
 

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Balding women, women that tend to kill their hair while bleaching it, thin hair, low hair quality, lack of vitamins and minerals etc. a lot of women could use this too, so market ain't just for bald ugly men.
The market would be really big. I know many kids having intense hair problems, elderly people missing their hair and patients with heavy conditions not being able to keep their hair... this would revolutionate society by a lot, not talking about the "QOL" aspect for individuals. Biotechnology can have a great impact on cosmetic fields. I can't see this to NOT happen within 20-30 years, as each generation gets more and more addicted upon looks, see today, social medias wrecking everyone to keep the ideal standard. What will happen with the 2 next generations!?

It's a matter of time when this technology will come out and be avialable, a company has to launch the trigger to let the others fire out.
 

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A side note: dont expect it anytime soon. It might not happen in the lifetime of some users on this forum, but pretty sure in the lifetime of the younger members on this forum, like for me. (>20)
 

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I think people are missing the point. You’re all getting caught up into if Tsuji will get the $. Obviously he will.

What’s actually important is that the technology now exists to clone your hairs and transplant them to your bald scalp. Simple as that.

This is assuming by “pre-clinical safety test in humans”, they actually meant they tried it in a human and it worked. Which from their repetitive tweets, seems to be the case.
 

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I am 100% sure someone will implant a cloned and, capable to regenerate itself, follicle, in human scalp within this decade, but the avialability and affordability is still a question in the horizon. Thats why I sad that it's still far away, maybe 20-30 years.
 

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I am 100% sure someone will implant a cloned and, capable to regenerate itself, follicle, in human scalp within this decade, but the avialability and affordability is still a question in the horizon. Thats why I sad that it's still far away, maybe 20-30 years.
I think the price would fall down rapidly in the first 3-5 years. Most of the expense comes from storing the tissue and processing the cells. Over time as more clinics use SHT their will be better infrastructure with companies like hairclone who will step up to store the follicles.
As of right now, it doesn’t seem anyone is really aware of this sort of treatment besides hairloss forums. Not even people on tressless are aware of it
 

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I think the price would fall down rapidly in the first 3-5 years. Most of the expense comes from storing the tissue and processing the cells. Over time as more clinics use SHT their will be better infrastructure with companies like hairclone who will step up to store the follicles.
As of right now, it doesn’t seem anyone is really aware of this sort of treatment besides hairloss forums. Not even people on tressless are aware of it
When Tsuji shows that he literally restored full NW7 to FULL NW0 it will be all over the news, give it 4-5 years min.
 

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I am 100% sure someone will implant a cloned and, capable to regenerate itself, follicle, in human scalp within this decade, but the avialability and affordability is still a question in the horizon. Thats why I sad that it's still far away, maybe 20-30 years.
Agreed. However, this is only problematic to people who have run out of donor zone and still need further procedures. Similarly, with DUPA patients. The beauty is 20years is enough that someone can use nearly all their donor zone and maintain a good head of hair until they are capable of cloning them cheaply (relatively).

Bottom line this is the news we were all so desperately waiting for. (Hopefully)
 

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Once it's out, believe me, prices will fall down very rapidly.
The market share is so big it's impossibile even to imagine.
A lot of people (not everyone) surrender to baldness to avoid being let down by medications that don't work, side effects and so on.
If a method that guarantees 100% results becomes a reality i bet my own house every bald of every age around the world that can afford it will JUMP on a plane to have it done.
Every female that suffers from hair loss (after a certain age they are as much as males, if not even more.) will jump on that same plane even FASTER.
Prices will fall rapidly as technology will get better, more efficient and quicker, think about EV as an example.
Maybe i tend to be too optimistic, but i think we are really close. The science behind it is rock solid, and result of ten years of hard work.
 

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What happened to the talks of just a few months clinical trials?

If we’re talking years, I’m gonna have to tune out again for my own good. Have life to try my best to live. I’ll be 40 by the time this could be available to me and by then I guarantee you I won’t care nearly as much about having hair anymore. I’ll be glad if it’s available for my kids, if I find a woman good enough to have them with.
Believe it or not, there are a lot of happy people who didn’t get married or have kids until their 40’s. I know the future as a young bald/balding dude is anxiety inducing AF but you’ll find your way. Women in their late 20’s / early 30’s start to become more and more accepting of bald men as their priorities change.

Just remember, the girls in their twenties who settle for a deadbeat with model looks will be the divorcees in 10-15 years time.
 

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Believe it or not, there are a lot of happy people who didn’t get married or have kids until their 40’s. I know the future as a young bald/balding dude is anxiety inducing AF but you’ll find your way. Women in their late 20’s / early 30’s start to become more and more accepting of bald men as their priorities change.

Just remember, the girls in their twenties who settle for a deadbeat with model looks will be the divorcees in 10-15 years time.
Exactly this. I'm only 28 now and have pretty decent hair, but the attitude towards balding has dramatically shifted from the time I was in my early 20s and noticed thinning and my age group now. While it seemed like a death blow at 20, now vast majority of girls really don't give a sh*t, even at just 28. One of my good friends from university was fully bald by 22, has had 0 problems with women during then and now, met his current girl at 26 and now is recently engaged.

People mature pretty quickly into their late 20s and hair becomes much less important as literally 20-30% of guys have some noticeable recession already.
 

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lol Strong cope there. Most attractive people are also successful. The guy with the model looks probably has more money than you, and will have a happier marriage too. Who wants a woman in her late 30s? Women expire at age 25, of course a woman in her 30s will settle for anything she can get.
Yep, men with hair can sleep around until 35+ then marry a 25 year old woman and have a happy life. Men who bald in their 20s settle for fatties and are seldom truly happy.
 

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honestly the only situation I understand people having existential crisis over is balding at a young age. I cant imagine being in high school and losing your hair-- seems like god just playing a cruel joke on those dudes
 
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