RIKEN Announcement: Succeeded in Developing Tech for HF Regenerative Medicine: Study to be Published Feb 10

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I thought that the bet was about when the cure will become available for most ppl...

Will a treatment like Tsuji's be released in the next years? Probably. Will it be available for the "common" ppl? Probably not. We will have to wait for the rich and the bald men that believe that their soul resides in their hair to be cured first.
The title just says "cured". Unlimited graft transplants are a cure, regardless of the cost.
 

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I thought that the bet was about when the cure will become available for most ppl...

Will a treatment like Tsuji's be released in the next years? Probably. Will it be available for the "common" ppl? Probably not. We will have to wait for the rich and the bald men that believe that their soul resides in their hair to be cured first.
I never said anything about "common" people. I just want a cure to be available even if it's expensive. Get a better job and save up your money.
no one knows, not even Tsuji wether this will work or not
Please show me where I said that I know it will definitely work. I said it will likely work.
 

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You need to leave this website a bit hahaha You are answering too fast hahaha I just posted the msg and I was editing it to add more stuff, but whatever...

The title just says "cured". Unlimited graft transplants are a cure, regardless of the cost.
I agree. I bet that hair cloning techniques will work and that we will get at least one picture of an ex-bald guy with a hard full of hair in the next years. But if this will happen to us at a reasonable cost in the next years is what matters to me.

I never said anything about "common" people. I just want a cure to be available even if it's expensive. Get a better job and save up your money.
I am a NW1-NW1.5 and finasteride works on me perfectly. I have interest in this cure because I want to stop using finasteride daily. It is a boring habit.

And no, my job is fine. Anyway, finasteride is a cure for me and it is cheap. I like the hair cloning technique because I can avoid scars on the back of my hear if decide to go from NW1 to NW0.
 

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I am a NW1-NW1.5 and finasteride works on me perfectly. I have interest in this cure because I want to stop using finasteride daily. It is a boring habit.

And no, my job is fine. Anyway, finasteride is a cure for me and it is cheap. I like the hair cloning technique because I can avoid scars on the back of my hear if decide to go from NW1 to NW0.
Then why you are complaining? We don't talk about a cure being available to most people, we talk about when it will be available to purchase regardless of price. How do you even define what price would make it available to most people? I've seen people on here say they can't afford minoxidil.
 

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Then why you are complaining? We don't talk about a cure being available to most people, we talk about when it will be available to purchase regardless of price. How do you even define what price would make it available to most people? I've seen people on here say they can't afford minoxidil.
A believe a affordable price would be the costs of a hair transplant surgery plus the cost of the hair cloning technique, this one being a bit more expensive than the techniques we have today to remove the hair from the back of the head. In other words, a affordable price would be more expensive than the hair transplant techniques we have today, but not by much.

If I remember correctly, the price that Tsuji had given us was around 200-300k at launch. If a hair transplant is already seen as expensive and requires extensive financial planning for many ppl, a treatment much more expensive than that would be impossible for most ppl.

I am cheering for a cure, but I hope that the treatment becomes "affordable" and not just a cure for a small percentage of the population.
 

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A believe a affordable price would be the costs of a hair transplant surgery plus the cost of the hair cloning technique, this one being a bit more expensive than the techniques we have today to remove the hair from the back of the head. In other words, a affordable price would be more expensive than the hair transplant techniques we have today, but not by much.

If I remember correctly, the price that Tsuji had given us was around 200-300k at launch. If a hair transplant is already seen as expensive and requires extensive financial planning for many ppl, a treatment much more expensive than that would be impossible for most ppl.

I am cheering for a cure, but I hope that the treatment becomes "affordable" and not just a cure for a small percentage of the population.
Nah, I hope it's so expensive most people can't get it. That way being a fullhead will still mean something
 

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Nah, I hope it's so expensive most people can't get it. That way being a fullhead will still mean something
Even if this procedure is available and affordable (ie 10-20k), the vast majority of people will not get it. This is especially so if it's only offered in Japan/South Korea/etc. It will be a higher number then currently get hair transplants, and mostly younger guys will flock to it, but still a relatively low capture of hairloss sufferers. Cosmetic surgeries just don't have a high market penetration rate, even for something as important as hair.
 

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There is no cosmetic surgery that cost 300k to this date , and i truley belive when HC would be out it would cost like 100k only for year or two and after that we would get to 50k which is somthing that we can get if we work hard enough.
I could afford the higher price point (ie 300k), but I wouldn't ever pay that. I'm not astronomically wealthy but I couldn't ever justify paying that type of price point for anything cosmetic, even hair.
 

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I could afford the higher price point (ie 300k), but I wouldn't ever pay that. I'm not astronomically wealthy but I couldn't ever justify paying that type of price point for anything cosmetic, even hair.
Right? I think most men around here want to have 100% of their hair back so that they can regain their self-esteem or look more attractive.

The thing is: money beats looks in the game of life. It is like a cheat code. If you are not rich, but you have 200-300k to spare and can't get a girl for yourself, you deserve to be bald.
 

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How much is your house worth?
If you are really confident we can arrange a bet with escrow. Dm me
 

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Right? I think most men around here want to have 100% of their hair back so that they can regain their self-esteem or look more attractive.

The thing is: money beats looks in the game of life. It is like a cheat code. If you are not rich, but you have 200-300k to spare and can't get a girl for yourself, you deserve to be bald.
A lot of people aren't trying to save their hair to get girls. There is just the general sense that you aren't yourself, or maybe it's necessary their careers. Pretty much anyone paying 300k isn't doing it because he's an incel. That is a lot of money though. I don't think even Tsuji will cost that much. Stemson will be a lot cheaper. The only thing going against Tsuji is that Stemson's technique will be a cheaper to implement and may work just as well. That asks being in Japan are probably the two biggest reasons he's having trouble getting investors.
 

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A lot of people aren't trying to save their hair to get girls. There is just the general sense that you aren't yourself, or maybe it's necessary their careers. Pretty much anyone paying 300k isn't doing it because he's an incel. That is a lot of money though. I don't think even Tsuji will cost that much. Stemson will be a lot cheaper. The only thing going against Tsuji is that Stemson's technique will be a cheaper to implement and may work just as well. That asks being in Japan are probably the two biggest reasons he's having trouble getting investors.
That is why I mentioned self steem =p Work is also a nice reason. There are other good reasons to have hair.

This price around 200k was given to us one or two years ago. I won't look for the post here, but in hairlosscure2020 an old article says: "It will initially cost 20 million to 40 million Japanese Yen ($190,000 – $380,000 per today’s exchange rates). Prices will then slowly come down over the next decade."

It may just be a lie. I do not know. I hope Stemson is successful too. Nothing like a bit of competition to lower the prices.
 

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That is why I mentioned self steem =p Work is also a nice reason. There are other good reasons to have hair.

This price around 200k was given to us one or two years ago. I won't look for the post here, but in hairlosscure2020 an old article says: "It will initially cost 20 million to 40 million Japanese Yen ($190,000 – $380,000 per today’s exchange rates). Prices will then slowly come down over the next decade."

It may just be a lie. I do not know. I hope Stemson is successful too. Nothing like a bit of competition to lower the prices.
Yes, I think they've refined their technique since then to speed up the culturing process. It's still going to be six figures though probably. Stemson hopefully will not be, and Tissuse threw out a figure of 50k.
 

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Eh this might sound dumb lol, but isn't the latest news report, Dr. Takashi Tusji made, the one we were waiting for!? Like the "interview", Hairliciously asked for!?
 

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Eh this might sound dumb lol, but isn't the latest news report, Dr. Takashi Tusji made, the one we were waiting for!? Like the "interview", Hairliciously asked for!?
I dont think he ever got the reply?
 

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Right? I think most men around here want to have 100% of their hair back so that they can regain their self-esteem or look more attractive.

The thing is: money beats looks in the game of life. It is like a cheat code. If you are not rich, but you have 200-300k to spare and can't get a girl for yourself, you deserve to be bald.
It's only a cheat code if you if you have insane wealth. For regular wealthy people, it really doesn't do much unless you have other admirable attributes to go with it.

I'm not even looking for a perfect head of hair to be attractive or for self-esteem, I simply like having hair.
 

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A lot of people aren't trying to save their hair to get girls. There is just the general sense that you aren't yourself, or maybe it's necessary their careers. Pretty much anyone paying 300k isn't doing it because he's an incel. That is a lot of money though. I don't think even Tsuji will cost that much. Stemson will be a lot cheaper. The only thing going against Tsuji is that Stemson's technique will be a cheaper to implement and may work just as well. That asks being in Japan are probably the two biggest reasons he's having trouble getting investors.
Yeah a 300k price tag prices out the vast majority of the market. It's probably around 60-70k where it starts to become a procedure that people get priced out at. At 20-40k and offered globally you have hooked in the majority of younger men/women.
 

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