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Becoming a bodybuilder will only help you with lower-class girls. Being in general good shape will help you with middle and upper class girls. And of course it's no substitute for hair.

Women do care about confidence, IF your looks are acceptable first.
 

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Fred what is your prediction for the future when all the women you talk about are in their 40's and 50's. What will become of them and people like you? Do you think the playing field will "even out"? After reading the latest post about what women want I just want to know what becomes of these type of women in future. Do their values change or will they stay the same. I am sure Joan knows the answer to this. If I was in my 20's or even younger losing hair and read all these posts, I would probably just do what Exodus does and watch p**rn and just wait until someone makes a move on me. And then go for it. Thank goodness I didn't have to go thru all this social media narcissistic generation. No wonder so many of you have to be on medication for depression and anxiety. I would have too. I had the privileged NW1 but I also suffered from social anxiety and low self esteem that my life was no different from the NW6 who felt the same way inside. Thank goodness later I realized intelligence was eventually more stimulating then just a pretty face.
 

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Fred what is your prediction for the future when all the women you talk about are in their 40's and 50's. What will become of them and people like you? Do you think the playing field will "even out"? After reading the latest post about what women want I just want to know what becomes of these type of women in future. Do their values change or will they stay the same. I am sure Joan knows the answer to this. If I was in my 20's or even younger losing hair and read all these posts, I would probably just do what Exodus does and watch p**rn and just wait until someone makes a move on me. And then go for it. Thank goodness I didn't have to go thru all this social media narcissistic generation. No wonder so many of you have to be on medication for depression and anxiety. I would have too. I had the privileged NW1 but I also suffered from social anxiety and low self esteem that my life was no different from the NW6 who felt the same way inside. Thank goodness later I realized intelligence was eventually more stimulating then just a pretty face.
no you didn't lol. i dont even talk to other forever alones online, because even there i stand out, in a bad way. it doesnt help that a lot of forever alones are blue pilled to hell and back. i guess its a lot easier to be that way, though, when you have a full head of hair

social anxiety, depression + REAL baldness on top of it will drive you to the edge of insanity lol. you probably would have ended up in the mental hospital if you had baldness on top of all that. in fact, i've walked to the hospital many times, but i don't wanna have to be the only bald guy there . . . . . i'd probably end up beating the living **** out of some crazy guy who talked about my baldness
 

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All very true I'm afraid. It took me 7 hours to make a steak yesterday just so I could keep my ill-gotten gains. And as you say the gym is an incredibly dangerous place to be. Whenever I walk in there its like Final Destination, barbells being dropped on people's necks, people being pulled under by treadmills and grinded into mincemeat. Big dumb meatheads everywhere, yelling "Just shave it bro!" at me while they inject steroids into their eyeballs and strangle puppies with their bare hands. An evil place for evil people.

Holy **** lmao

Sorry I can't rep you that often
 

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Fred what is your prediction for the future when all the women you talk about are in their 40's and 50's. What will become of them and people like you? Do you think the playing field will "even out"? After reading the latest post about what women want I just want to know what becomes of these type of women in future. Do their values change or will they stay the same. I am sure Joan knows the answer to this. If I was in my 20's or even younger losing hair and read all these posts, I would probably just do what Exodus does and watch p**rn and just wait until someone makes a move on me. And then go for it. Thank goodness I didn't have to go thru all this social media narcissistic generation. No wonder so many of you have to be on medication for depression and anxiety. I would have too. I had the privileged NW1 but I also suffered from social anxiety and low self esteem that my life was no different from the NW6 who felt the same way inside. Thank goodness later I realized intelligence was eventually more stimulating then just a pretty face.

I think the playing field is in men's favor actually. The average middle-aged guy looks better than women of the same age, in my opinion. In fact, some guys look better older than when they were younger. As long as they don't put on too much weight, they'll be more attractive and appealing than a lot of women, hair or not. I can only speak for myself regarding values, and yes, they do change. Looks do not trump other traits. I'm grateful social media wasn't around when I was young too, DH. I wasn't popular and didn't have many friends, so I'd feel like a loser for sure reading about everyone's great and exciting lives.
 

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I think the playing field is in men's favor actually. The average middle-aged guy looks better than women of the same age, in my opinion. In fact, some guys look better older than when they were younger. As long as they don't put on too much weight, they'll be more attractive and appealing than a lot of women, hair or not. I can only speak for myself regarding values, and yes, they do change. Looks do not trump other traits. I'm grateful social media wasn't around when I was young too, DH. I wasn't popular and didn't have many friends, so I'd feel like a loser for sure reading about everyone's great and exciting lives.
Joan, I feel the same way as you and I too was not the "social butterfly" growing up. You and I have some things in common so I think we can relate to our generation better than this one. Honestly, if you and ID stop posting, I am going to "exit" with you because I really don't feel I belong here anymore and the posts about social media are getting too depressing. Joan, I think you are right about the playing field being slightly skewed in favor of men. Most women around my age are always telling me wait until I get to their age and most of them of younger than me. At this point in my life, I still feel women are more attractive if they stay fit and try to take care of themselves but if they carry negative baggage from previous relationships, I will steer clear of them. Unfortunately, with divorce rate so high its hard to find women who don't feel scorned. And I find women who have been scorned sometimes think dating much younger guys is ticket to happiness but its just a subconscious manipulation for control and sex with an "energizer bunny".
 

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I think the playing field is in men's favor actually. The average middle-aged guy looks better than women of the same age, in my opinion. In fact, some guys look better older than when they were younger. As long as they don't put on too much weight, they'll be more attractive and appealing than a lot of women, hair or not. I can only speak for myself regarding values, and yes, they do change. Looks do not trump other traits. I'm grateful social media wasn't around when I was young too, DH. I wasn't popular and didn't have many friends, so I'd feel like a loser for sure reading about everyone's great and exciting lives.

I respectfully disagree. In middle-age, women can still cake on plenty of makeup to make themselves look that much younger. I see them do it all the time when I somewhat frequently hang out in the Valley area of CT. Also, since most middle-aged women do not suffer from greatly-noticeable hair loss, that also helps them in looking much younger. I've seen middle-aged bald men, and they unfortunately look terribly old.
 

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We will miss you DH, and cherish your life's wisdom and magnanimous grace to every coming and passing forum member here.
It is only our love for you and your better interest that we yield you the right away to fly free from here.
Once you are ready my friend you need not wait for me. :sun:
 

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I respectfully disagree. In middle-age, women can still cake on plenty of makeup to make themselves look that much younger. I see them do it all the time when I somewhat frequently hang out in the Valley area of CT. Also, since most middle-aged women do not suffer from greatly-noticeable hair loss, that also helps them in looking much younger. I've seen middle-aged bald men, and they unfortunately look terribly old.
In my area, the women don't stay fit anymore in middle age. How about in your area?

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We will miss you DH, and cherish your life's wisdom and magnanimous grace to every coming and passing forum member here.
It is only our love for you and your better interest that we yield you the right away to fly free from here.
Once you are ready my friend you need not wait for me. :sun:
Thanks for those kind words my friend. My departure has been overdue. As I fly away, I might be back to wish everyone a Merry Christmas (or Happy Hannukah in a few days LOL) on Christmas day! And to all a good life!!!!
 

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All very true I'm afraid. It took me 7 hours to make a steak yesterday just so I could keep my ill-gotten gains. And as you say the gym is an incredibly dangerous place to be. Whenever I walk in there its like Final Destination, barbells being dropped on people's necks, people being pulled under by treadmills and grinded into mincemeat. Big dumb meatheads everywhere, yelling "Just shave it bro!" at me while they inject steroids into their eyeballs and strangle puppies with their bare hands. An evil place for evil people.


LOL

Everybody knows bodybuilders are known for their longevity. And they're all natural, everybody could look like Ronnie Coleman if they lift hard enough and eat a lot of tuna. You could be a world class athlete and people like you would still tell you "hit the gym bro, you need those gainz". This stuff is getting very obnoxious.

And if you people truly cared about your heath you would follow the diet of the Okinawa people that regularly live beyond 100 and have excelent health. But yeah, that would be overkill because you just want those mad gainz.

Fitness and going the gym are perfectly fine as personal choices but are a weak way of dealing with your problems.
 

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I think the playing field is in men's favor actually. The average middle-aged guy looks better than women of the same age, in my opinion. In fact, some guys look better older than when they were younger. As long as they don't put on too much weight, they'll be more attractive and appealing than a lot of women, hair or not. I can only speak for myself regarding values, and yes, they do change. Looks do not trump other traits. I'm grateful social media wasn't around when I was young too, DH. I wasn't popular and didn't have many friends, so I'd feel like a loser for sure reading about everyone's great and exciting lives.

In general, men still look fine when older while women's beauty parish faster. It reminds me about one young women who wrote somewhere that she is is really pretty and all that and that she wanted to marry some well earning men in new york or something. She got an an answer from a banker who wrote that it would be bad an investment to marry her because normally you would want higher returns after time but if she can only offer her beauty it he would just lose over time since her beaty will gradually vanish.
 

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I respectfully disagree. In middle-age, women can still cake on plenty of makeup to make themselves look that much younger. I see them do it all the time when I somewhat frequently hang out in the Valley area of CT. Also, since most middle-aged women do not suffer from greatly-noticeable hair loss, that also helps them in looking much younger. I've seen middle-aged bald men, and they unfortunately look terribly old.

Too much makeup in middle age actually makes women look older, since it settles into fine lines and accentuates them. It also makes them look hard. Less is better as women age. If they didn't wear makeup, pad their bodies, wear spanx and heels, then would you agree with me that men age better? A man and a woman, naked, side by side, over 50--who's going to sag more? Also, if you looked solely at a bald middle-aged man's face, would you think he wears some wrinkles, crow's feet and jowls better than the average woman the same age? I think so. I'm glad you disagree, though. Maybe I don't look so bad after all. :D

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Joan, I feel the same way as you and I too was not the "social butterfly" growing up. You and I have some things in common so I think we can relate to our generation better than this one. Honestly, if you and ID stop posting, I am going to "exit" with you because I really don't feel I belong here anymore and the posts about social media are getting too depressing. Joan, I think you are right about the playing field being slightly skewed in favor of men. Most women around my age are always telling me wait until I get to their age and most of them of younger than me. At this point in my life, I still feel women are more attractive if they stay fit and try to take care of themselves but if they carry negative baggage from previous relationships, I will steer clear of them. Unfortunately, with divorce rate so high its hard to find women who don't feel scorned. And I find women who have been scorned sometimes think dating much younger guys is ticket to happiness but its just a subconscious manipulation for control and sex with an "energizer bunny".

Being on this forum helps me relate to my sons' lives more. Social media puts pressure on young people today I think. They see everyone at his/her best and wonder why their lives aren't as fulfilling as everyone else's. At least that's how I'd feel if I were in my 20s today. People would consider my life boring now, but the difference is that I accept I'm somewhat of a loner and don't feel the need to live as others do, like when I was young. I wish women talked more openly about everything in life like the guys here. Since high school, I've always been more comfortable around guys. I'm lucky I have an understanding husband, because men still do ask me out for coffee, and my husband doesn't mind. I love listening to them and prefer that to talking about myself. That's quite a compliment that younger women think you're not their age yet! That just proves that, to us, men look better than we do. Older women can only get so far with exercise and eating right. I can attest to that. Things are going to go south, no matter how heavy you squat, curl dumbbells or lift barbells. For some of us, it will be worse than others. That's a fact. I've never been even slightly overweight, and I am sagging! What would keep me from ever marrying again (besides the trust factor) would be the fear of both of us getting on each other's nerves in time. We're set in our ways pretty much by now, so compromise is more difficult. I also like my alone time. (The energizer bunny part would be fun, though!)

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We will miss you DH, and cherish your life's wisdom and magnanimous grace to every coming and passing forum member here.
It is only our love for you and your better interest that we yield you the right away to fly free from here.
Once you are ready my friend you need not wait for me. :sun:

I second this, I.D.
 

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beaty will gradually vanish.

We tend to take our "looks" for granted because we didn't have to do any work to achieve it. For instance, unlike the attention/energy usually required in order to develop "character" and social or academic standing.

We learn fast that once our youth goes, our looks soon follow, until pretty soon general society isn't as soft on us as we might have remembered.
Of course looks/beauty offer us lots of advantages; Obviously some more pronounced than others.
Sure it can be our friend, but it can also /nurture/enable our less favorable narcissistic features and quite readily result in becoming "too much of a good thing".

Physical beauty can take us only so far in life... It certainly can support us up to a point so long as we don't put it on a pedestal that sits atop a weak foundation.

For we know how (or will learn) the fate of a top heavy and poorly secured structure, even in the slightest breeze, does not end well.

Build something solid and honest for the future. So when our looks go we'll hopefully have something true and sustainable to fall back on.
 

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You have good points Joan, and you are an asset to the forum. And actually, yes, I would agree with you that if women did not augment their appearances with makeup etc., that men probably would age much better. I've seen the same woman with and without makeup and the difference was very dramatic, IMO. They almost look like two different people. But women are allowed that luxury and men can't exactly go around wearing makeup, haha. And I really do believe that baldness does take a HUGE toll on men, the older they get. Also, how is your son doing? I believe you said he is in college so he should probably be coming home for the holidays any day now.

And Joan, you also bring up a good point with social media in that it portrays people and their lives as much more glamorous than they actually are. I've seen plenty of people who post photos of themselves with all smiles, hamming it up like they are the life of the party. Yet when see them out in person, they are dull and uninteresting. Or sometimes these people do not even bother to go out. They can bolster their social lives by taking "selfies" and sitting in front of computer. One of my glam rock bands wrote a song about it entitled "Web Junkie".

Doctor House: it depends on the woman but in my area, I've seen women well into their 40's that I wouldn't mind hooking up with at all. There is even one in her early 50's (friend of a friend) that looks much younger and garners the attention of guys much younger than her (myself included). They may not be as hot as their younger counterparts, but they are definitely still very attractive. And as I stated before, they can artificially augment their appearance so that they look much younger and more attractive. And since they are a bit older, they aren't nearly as picky as the younger ones either. But then again, it really does depend on the woman though, as I've also seen plenty of middle-aged women who haven't aged so well.
 

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I like the part in Ronda's last fight where she blocked Holly's kick with her face.
 

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You have good points Joan, and you are an asset to the forum. And actually, yes, I would agree with you that if women did not augment their appearances with makeup etc., that men probably would age much better. I've seen the same woman with and without makeup and the difference was very dramatic, IMO. They almost look like two different people. But women are allowed that luxury and men can't exactly go around wearing makeup, haha. And I really do believe that baldness does take a HUGE toll on men, the older they get. Also, how is your son doing? I believe you said he is in college so he should probably be coming home for the holidays any day now.

And Joan, you also bring up a good point with social media in that it portrays people and their lives as much more glamorous than they actually are. I've seen plenty of people who post photos of themselves with all smiles, hamming it up like they are the life of the party. Yet when see them out in person, they are dull and uninteresting. Or sometimes these people do not even bother to go out. They can bolster their social lives by taking "selfies" and sitting in front of computer. One of my glam rock bands wrote a song about it entitled "Web Junkie".

Doctor House: it depends on the woman but in my area, I've seen women well into their 40's that I wouldn't mind hooking up with at all. There is even one in her early 50's (friend of a friend) that looks much younger and garners the attention of guys much younger than her (myself included). They may not be as hot as their younger counterparts, but they are definitely still very attractive. And as I stated before, they can artificially augment their appearance so that they look much younger and more attractive. And since they are a bit older, they aren't nearly as picky as the younger ones either. But then again, it really does depend on the woman though, as I've also seen plenty of middle-aged women who haven't aged so well.

Thanks!

My son was home all last week for Thanksgiving (thank you for asking). It's getting harder for him to hide the recession, and his hair is pretty flat due to diffuse shedding. He said his crown was getting really thin, but I couldn't see any scalp yet. He decided (without my bringing it up!) to give Propecia another try. I told him that maybe it slowed things down, even if it didn't seem like it, so I think it's a wise decision. I know there are naysayers here regarding the risk of sides, but I do worry about that. He initially began taking it at 18--aren't guys still, um, growing? I'd hate for "that" to be stunted or affected in any way. That's going to be important to him a lot longer than his hair is.

Web Junkie is a good term. I'm glad my sons couldn't give a damn less about Facebook, Twitter, Instagram--whatever. Even if I had a glamorous life, I'd never broadcast it. Life changes on a dime. I have seen it happen. Better to be humble and modest.
 

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Thanks!

My son was home all last week for Thanksgiving (thank you for asking). It's getting harder for him to hide the recession, and his hair is pretty flat due to diffuse shedding. He said his crown was getting really thin, but I couldn't see any scalp yet. He decided (without my bringing it up!) to give Propecia another try. I told him that maybe it slowed things down, even if it didn't seem like it, so I think it's a wise decision. I know there are naysayers here regarding the risk of sides, but I do worry about that. He initially began taking it at 18--aren't guys still, um, growing? I'd hate for "that" to be stunted or affected in any way. That's going to be important to him a lot longer than his hair is.

Web Junkie is a good term. I'm glad my sons couldn't give a damn less about Facebook, Twitter, Instagram--whatever. Even if I had a glamorous life, I'd never broadcast it. Life changes on a dime. I have seen it happen. Better to be humble and modest.

Damn, that really sucks that your son started losing hair at 18. At least I didn't notice my hair loss until much later on. How is the hair loss on both sides of his family? It's cool that he's trying Propecia again. And you're not wrong to worry about the side effects. I got bad side effects from Propecia myself. I am really frustrated about the limited scope of today's treatments. But I believe that he is right to at least try Propecia; I totally advocate that. Many people do not suffer these side effects and are able to keep their hair. And if he is able to keep what he has throughout his 20's, then that is HUGE.
 

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Damn, that really sucks that your son started losing hair at 18. At least I didn't notice my hair loss until much later on. How is the hair loss on both sides of his family? It's cool that he's trying Propecia again. And you're not wrong to worry about the side effects. I got bad side effects from Propecia myself. I am really frustrated about the limited scope of today's treatments. But I believe that he is right to at least try Propecia; I totally advocate that. Many people do not suffer these side effects and are able to keep their hair. And if he is able to keep what he has throughout his 20's, then that is HUGE.

My husband didn't even start thinning until his mid-50s. That really hurts, seeing your son losing hair while you've maintained yours till much later in life. Same for me--my hair loss started a little over three years ago. I'm not going to lie: I am not handling Androgenetic Alopecia well, but when my son told me he was losing hair, I cried, literally. My father said he started losing his hair around 20. Growing up, I remember him having thin hair on top. When he died at 66, he was pretty much NW6. I never thought anything of it, like everyone else who is somewhat oblivious to others' baldness till it happens to him/her. My father-in-law died at 49. I never knew him, but I've seen pictures of him as a NW6. My husband said he was that way since his early 20s. Baldness runs on both sides of our families, so I can only hope that my son will at least take after my father and keep some hair on top till middle age. Unfortunately, my son cannot grow a beard, although some of you guys have said you had that problem till maybe you were into your 20s. That gives me hope. He's also 120 lbs. soaking wet! I'm hoping his face and body will fill out as he gets older (he has no interest in eating more). Are you still taking Propecia? Did it help at all?
 

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Do you have other children Joan? Or is the responsibility for grandkids entirely on your son?
 
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