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Can someone give an answer in regards to the percents and dosages which present efficacy and the least sides for both of these drugs? Also, would a pre-mixed solution require refrigeration for say ~3 months?
 
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Can someone give an answer in regards to the percents and dosages which present efficacy and the least sides for both of these drugs?
For CB, 7.5% twice a day is the most effective so 1ml of solution and 75mg of powder would be 7.5%, no sides were shown in any concentration in the studies
I will not touch RU so no idea, somebody else can chime in here
 

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I'm using small dose RU 2.5% and not even applying a full ml. I'm thinking it's 12.5mg twice a day. No sides, but I also don't seem prone to sides. I just got back on (3 weeks), but also had great success a year ago with it.
 

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Anti androgen have been prescribed to older men since the mid-1970's , flutamide which is quite powerful and was used orally at 250mg a day was one the first, so that's very effective to combat hair loss as the drug gets effectively delivered to each hair follicle via blood stream, and at high dosages.

We do not have reports of men growing back lost hair on these type of drugs, and we are talking decades of usage, this is also line with the Norwood experiments from the 1940's..

IF you have lost coverage issues, aka a big forehead, your best bet is to go for a FUE transplant, techniques have improved a lot these last years and that's what I had done. In fact I have a nicer hairline than what I had at 18, with a very close to natural density.

CB was tested by mustang from anageninc aka kane. purity came back at 47%. I think you are a shill for kane thats just my opinion and btw RU doesnt work its all in your head.
 

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Any evidence as to why RU doesn't work?
No evidence but from personal experience and what I have heard from friends and read off hairloss forums/reddit. it can have the opposite effect on some people. could be impurity issues or genetic factors, keep in mind this is still a research chemical made in chinese labs. and whats funny and suspicious is the fact that anageninc only allows 5 stars rating comments on their RU procuts. they never approve any negative comments of their RU that alone says alot, they just wanna take your money. all comments are 99% 5 stars, oh god do I wish RU was that great on everybody.. you are already on such a strong regimen why would you risk rubbing a research chemical such as RU from a chinese lab on your head mate?
 

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No evidence but from personal experience and what I have heard from friends and read off hairloss forums/reddit. it can have the opposite effect on some people. could be impurity issues or genetic factors, keep in mind this is still a research chemical made in chinese labs. and whats funny and suspicious is the fact that anageninc only allows 5 stars rating comments on their RU procuts. they never approve any negative comments of their RU that alone says alot, they just wanna take your money. all comments are 99% 5 stars, oh god do I wish RU was that great on everybody.. you are already on such a strong regimen why would you risk rubbing a research chemical such as RU from a chinese lab on your head mate?
How do you know I'm on a strong regimen? I'm using finasteride 5x weekly and dutasteride 1x (for 7 weeks) but still losing ground.

Very hesitant to start RU myself but if I don't stabilize soon then I'm throwing in the towel and shaving it. RU (at very low %) would be my last ditch attempt. I'm still technically a NW2.5-3 with some vertex thinning but I would rather have a perfect shave then a mess up top.
 

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How do you know I'm on a strong regimen? I'm using finasteride 5x weekly and dutasteride 1x (for 7 weeks) but still losing ground.

Very hesitant to start RU myself but if I don't stabilize soon then I'm throwing in the towel and shaving it. RU (at very low %) would be my last ditch attempt. I'm still technically a NW2.5-3 with some vertex thinning but I would rather have a perfect shave then a mess upwell fi
 

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finasteride and dutasteride is a strong regimen dude wtf? I cant even tolerate finasteride for a month. those two drugs you are using should in theory stop male pattern baldness dead in its tracks if those two drugs fails you why would you think a research chemical such as RU would work better? I actually read a guy on youtube saying RU made his dieing thin hair grow longer and thicker after 5 months or so. then the results started to fade away. it basically stopped working for him so he jumped on dutasteride instead. it seems it does work for some people sure but be careful and only attempt to apply RU the first months on the hairline to see the effect and avoid applying it all over cause you dont know how your hair folicles will react to this research chemical. I had a friend applying on his hairline and he said it killed it and he had a transplant to fix the damage. but if you are despeate go ahead. btw how long have you been on finasteride and dutasteride? are you applying topical dutasteride? and topical finasteride? or oral?
 

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How do you know I'm on a strong regimen? I'm using finasteride 5x weekly and dutasteride 1x (for 7 weeks) but still losing ground.

Very hesitant to start RU myself but if I don't stabilize soon then I'm throwing in the towel and shaving it. RU (at very low %) would be my last ditch attempt. I'm still technically a NW2.5-3 with some vertex thinning but I would rather have a perfect shave then a mess up top.

is the extra testosterone from finasteride/dutasteride ruining your hair you think? maybe reduce it with alfadratiol topically. it will decrease scalp T to some degree.

btw I found your comment on topical dutasteride

As for topical AA's, I'm not willing to go down that path unfortunately, at least until CB is released or prescribed off-label or more data comes out as to why it loses effectiveness after just 6-12 months. I'd rather shave my head or get a well done hair transplant then put pure research chemicals on my scalp. Although I did just order some alfatridiol, which I know is a very weak AA but I guess better then nothing.

how long have you used alfadratiol? im the guy that said I used 20ml daily.
 

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finasteride and dutasteride is a strong regimen dude wtf? I cant even tolerate finasteride for a month. those two drugs you are using should in theory stop male pattern baldness dead in its tracks if those two drugs fails you why would you think a research chemical such as RU would work better? I actually read a guy on youtube saying RU made his dieing thin hair grow longer and thicker after 5 months or so. then the results started to fade away. it basically stopped working for him so he jumped on dutasteride instead. it seems it does work for some people sure but be careful and only attempt to apply RU the first months on the hairline to see the effect and avoid applying it all over cause you dont know how your hair folicles will react to this research chemical. I had a friend applying on his hairline and he said it killed it and he had a transplant to fix the damage. but if you are despeate go ahead. btw how long have you been on finasteride and dutasteride? are you applying topical dutasteride? and topical finasteride? or oral?
It's all oral, and again, I've only taken 7 .5 dutasteride pills total, so it's too early to tell what the effect will be, but I've lost so much of my hairline in the last 3-4 months I don't think it will be the recovery I am hoping for. I wouldn't be dropping these to add RU/CB, so my main goal would be to use them together.
 

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is the extra testosterone from finasteride/dutasteride ruining your hair you think? maybe reduce it with alfadratiol topically. it will decrease scalp T to some degree.

btw I found your comment on topical dutasteride

As for topical AA's, I'm not willing to go down that path unfortunately, at least until CB is released or prescribed off-label or more data comes out as to why it loses effectiveness after just 6-12 months. I'd rather shave my head or get a well done hair transplant then put pure research chemicals on my scalp. Although I did just order some alfatridiol, which I know is a very weak AA but I guess better then nothing.

how long have you used alfadratiol? im the guy that said I used 20ml daily.
Yeah I guess I'm getting desperate. I'm waiting for my alfadrtiol in the mail, will start using as soon as it arrives.
 

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Yeah I guess I'm getting desperate. I'm waiting for my alfadrtiol in the mail, will start using as soon as it arrives.
wow last 3-4 months? so taking oral dutasteride has accelerated shedding/thinning for you? maybe taking it topically would be better, then you will avoid alot of increased systemic T from oral dutasteride which is maybe the reason for the thinning/shedding. and I wouldnt mix finasteride with dutasteride tbh theres no point in that or wont help. dutasteride is strong enough to be taken alone. try just taking dutasteride for now and use alfadratiol or switch to topicall dutasteride instead. im also desperate my friend. my first dose of topical dutasteride was on friday no sides at all I just applied 5ml of 0.05%. gonna increase it week by week. if dutasteride fails me im on the fence again. and btw I use ketoconazole shampoo 2% twice daily. leave it in for 15-20 min. it hasnt done any negatives for my hair. it is said it can help against DHT and some swears by it. are you using it?
 

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wow last 3-4 months? so taking oral dutasteride has accelerated shedding/thinning for you? maybe taking it topically would be better, then you will avoid alot of increased systemic T from oral dutasteride which is maybe the reason for the thinning/shedding. and I wouldnt mix finasteride with dutasteride tbh theres no point in that or wont help. dutasteride is strong enough to be taken alone. try just taking dutasteride for now and use alfadratiol or switch to topicall dutasteride instead. im also desperate my friend. my first dose of topical dutasteride was on friday no sides at all I just applied 5ml of 0.05%. gonna increase it week by week. if dutasteride fails me im on the fence again. and btw I use ketoconazole shampoo 2% twice daily. leave it in for 15-20 min. it hasnt done any negatives for my hair. it is said it can help against DHT and some swears by it. are you using it?
No the shedding is because I ran out of finasteride earlier this year and basically had to stretch 4-5 pills for 5+ months and fully ran out for more then 1 month. Living with someone high risk through covid (my city is a mess with cases) and I didn't want to put them at risk by going to a walk-in clinic and waiting in there with sick people (which is how I've gotten finasteride for years, my family doctor refused to prescribe me it years ago and I never asked again). I got back on finasteride in September topically but got pills in October, but the shedding was already really bad. I added dutasteride 1x weekly in mid-October because I've seen the stories online (also from those two Australian doctors on youtube) about how effective even 1x weekly can be.

Shedding might have come down a bit in the last week, hard to tell though because I've lost about half an inch of hair from my temple peaks since earlier this year, but I also don't think it's increased since I began dutasteride. I do have a crazy amount of scalp inflammation as well, which is still present and I think I need to go to a dermatologist to get it checked.

I've been using nizoral for years, alongside finasteride.
 
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No the shedding is because I ran out of finasteride earlier this year and basically had to stretch 4-5 pills for 5+ months. Living with someone high risk through covid (my city is a mess with cases) and I didn't want to put them at risk by going to a walk-in clinic. I got back on finasteride in September, but the shedding was already really bad. I added dutasteride 1x weekly in October because I've seen the stories online (also from those two Australian doctors on youtube) about how effective even 1x weekly can be. Shedding might have come down a bit in the last week, hard to tell though because I've lost about half an inch of hair from my temple peaks since earlier this year, but I also don't think it's increased since I began dutasteride. I do have a crazy amount of scalp inflammation though, which is still present and I think I need to go to a dermatologist to get it checked.

I've been using nizoral for years, alongside finasteride.
wow bro scalp inflammation is a very bad thing, could it be dryness? or hormonal from the drugs you take? or you always suffered from it? I know that topical hydrocortisone cream will reduce inflammation and some claim to have regrown hair by using it topically.
 

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wow bro scalp inflammation is a very bad thing, could it be dryness? or hormonal from the drugs you take? or you always suffered from it? I know that topical hydrocortisone cream will reduce inflammation and some claim to have regrown hair by using it topically.
No it's new since the shedding started and mostly localized where I am losing hair, which means it's the follicles being chewed up. Could be the drugs, but like I said I used finasteride for 6~ years prior to this and I never got any sides and it predates me starting dutasteride so it's not that either. This is why I think I need a topical AA, because I think this could be the new spike in scalp testosterone causing it or my fluctuating DHT levels this year.

I think most importantly I need to see a dermatologist but I will go pick up some hydrocortisone cream right now to see if it helps.
 
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