saf story

[HairPieceMan]

can you not improve your situation with more transplants?

do you still wish you had better/stronger hair for meeting women in your late 30s?

i just wanted to know if it felt the same or worse as you get older to not have good hair genes etc.

 

[s.a.f]

can you not improve your situation with more transplants?

do you still wish you had better/stronger hair for meeting women in your late 30s?

i just wanted to know if it felt the same or worse as you get older to not have good hair genes etc.

Theres no more donor left to take its already scarred and looking thin so I dont want to take anymore from it. And after 5 ops I've had enough of the whole process anyway.
Obviously what I'm really waiting for is the same as most bald guys - the day when HM actually comes out and can fix everybody's situation. But we all know deep down that aint happening for this generation.

But if that were to happen it would totally fix the problem and because you'd have unlimited grafts and its your own hair society would be totally acceptable of it which is'nt really the case with most hair transplant's and wigs because they usually just improve the situation but are no ideal fix.

Of course everybody wants to have more hair or just an average head of hair so you dont have to worry about how it looks in certain conditions. Remember I'm sort of like you I cant go out without first sorting my hair out and I never go outside on sunny/rainy/windy days without a hat for any period of time.

I guess its more acceptable to have worse hair in your 30's but hey I lost my hair by my mid 20's I feel like I deserve to make up for that by at least having acceptable hair in my 30's/40's.
Its not until your 50's/60's when you should be able say baldness does'nt really matter.

 

[Shma]

If anyone's interested in the pics:

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[fodandahalf]

If people could choose, would they rather live in a world with hair, or complete tolerance of baldness? I always think improving transplants/ meds is great but if it means less bald people, then those who cannot get transplants/ use meds for whatever reason are gonna be in an even worse position. We have every right to do something about it of course and I plan to, just think it's a shame for those who have absolutely no hope.

 

[virtuality]

tbh on the female side of things i just dont see how some 20 somethign girl would be interested in a bald 20 something guy she may have known from the past when he had hair, so i dont know, its a bit wierd becuase i've been walking around sly bald for 2 years, but ive been ignoring people from the past during that time, i wear wigs now, the neibours think i grew my hair!

I'm 30+, closer to 35, and NW3. I'd say I'm probably in a better shape than most of my peers. I should stress that I'm not some special person, just in better physical shape than my peers. Eg, I have this neighbor that I always thought was 40, it turns out he's 2 years younger than me.

Through my friends and stuff, I get exposed to lots of 20+ yo girls and I've been told many times that they fancy me. I choose not to date them because I find them too immature, and if I was to date one of them, she'd get on my nerves. (I must admit that I've been trying to get one of them into bed)

Anyway, my point is, if they fancy someone who is 12-13 years older than them, I don't see why you couldn't have a chance.

 

[s.a.f]

I'm 30+, closer to 35, and NW3. I'd say I'm probably in a better shape than most of my peers. I should stress that I'm not some special person, just in better physical shape than my peers. Eg, I have this neighbor that I always thought was 40, it turns out he's 2 years younger than me.

Through my friends and stuff, I get exposed to lots of 20+ yo girls and I've been told many times that they fancy me. I choose not to date them because I find them too immature, and if I was to date one of them, she'd get on my nerves. (I must admit that I've been trying to get one of them into bed)

Anyway, my point is, if they fancy someone who is 12-13 years older than them, I don't see why you couldn't have a chance.

it's more about looks then age probably

Yeah you answered your own question, but I doubt you'll be able to enjoy this scenario for longer than another couple of years.

Thing is there will always be a few f*cked up chicks who for some reason think that its cool to F*ck some guy old enough to be their father. But they'll want all the perks that an older man can give compared to a broke *** guy their own age who's still living with freinds or parents.

 

[virtuality]

Yeah you answered your own question, but I doubt you'll be able to enjoy this scenario for longer than another couple of years.

Thing is there will always be a few f*cked up chicks who for some reason think that its cool to F*ck some guy old enough to be their father. But they'll want all the perks that an older man can give compared to a broke *** guy their own age who's still living with freinds or parents.

It's not that simple.

Most women prefer mature guys, not age wise but mentally mature.

My sister in law has more money than my brother, but she says she can't imagine being with a younger guy simply because younger guys don't have the same maturity... This is just an example that it's not only about the perks. It's more about the personality.

Also, it's not a situation that I'm trying to enjoy. Indeed, the immaturity of those 20+yo girls is a huge turn off for me and that's why I haven't hooked up with any of them.

By the way, the girl that I've been trying to get into bed wants to go on a date with me, I was thinking more like getting her into a bar and ending up having drunken sex. I hate the whole idea of going on a date with such an immature girl.

 

[uncomfortable man]

They still want that older guy on their own terms which usually means at least passable looking.

 

[sylent]

You're passable looking UCman. You actually look pretty good bald, kind of like my uncle does. Its kind of funny, my dad has a perfect NW1 at 45, and my uncle is a full blown NW7 at 44. My uncle looks much more youthful, and imo is a better looking guy. They looked very simaler when they were in their early 20s, so balding isnt always bad.

 

[Shma]

so balding isnt always bad.

Yeah it has tons of positive aspects. :hump:

 

[HairPieceMan]

saf.

how is life with transplanted hair and concealers.

can girls touch your hair, does the concealer folicals not come off when they touch them?

what about certain weather conditions, do you have to wear hats when its cold or rainy.

any other issues you would like to add.

also how much would you say it cost you to go from NW6 to where you are now with transplants.

were you a hermit baldie at 25, how did your peer group react to your baldness at 25, what happened to people that sw you at 25 with no hair, then in your 30s with hair?

 

[s.a.f]

saf.

1)how is life with transplanted hair and concealers.

2)can girls touch your hair, does the concealer folicals not come off when they touch them?

3)what about certain weather conditions, do you have to wear hats when its cold or rainy.

4)any other issues you would like to add.

5)also how much would you say it cost you to go from NW6 to where you are now with transplants.

6)were you a hermit baldie at 25, how did your peer group react to your baldness at 25, what happened to people that sw you at 25 with no hair, then in your 30s with hair?

1) A hassle but an improvement compared to being a babyfaced egg head.
2) They stroke/ run their fingers through my hair in bed and its ok. It does'nt come off on hands. If you know that situation could possibly arise then its best to spray on some locking mist but for everyday use I dont use that. As I've said before a key factor in using concealers is to use just a very small amount.
3) its ok to be out in light rain for a few minutes without any noticible effects, but a heavy downpour might be a different matter.
4) I wear it for days on end and after 3/4 it does look abit shitty dermatch turns kind of greasy and fibres start to drop onto the scalp. Also although it does'nt come off on hands it can stain white pillows so be carefull there. However thats just because I use concealers (lots of) on my strip scars, if you just sprinkle it on the scalp that should'nt be an issue.

5) for a NW6 to max out their Donor your probably looking at multiple ops and about £15k and thats just for strip.

6) As I've said before I used to shave it slick and the hair grew in slowly after 5 ops over 3+ yrs so there was no leap from bald to hair.
Being NW4 at 23 - NW6 at about 27 was sh*t unless you're a huge built guy then any douchebags in the vicinity or just anyone in general who feels the need to feel good about themselves by putting someone else down have an obvious target. At least now although I have crappy hair I'm not in the bald catagory. Just a guy in his 30's with some not significant hairloss. I'm still slightly insecure about it but its like the difference between being 5'2" and 5'8".

 

[HairPieceMan]

would you say the journey was worth it in the end or would you rather have embraced the fully bald look and try to make it look the best you could, shades, beard, earings and tan and all that jazz

aka rude from ff7

 

[s.a.f]

f*** that I was forced to 'embrace it' for almost 5 yrs, and it was like a prison. My only regret is going to those shitty uk butchers and knowing that if I'd gone to a top Dr in the first place I (or my hair) would be looking about 30% better.
Its been a long stressful and expensive journey and its still on going, but its allowed me to feel a resemblance of normality and the opportunity to feel confident enough to dip my toes back in the waters of life. (ie socialising and not feeling like I have an obvious massive physical flaw).
I still cant live as freely as someone who does'nt have to conceal the secret (just like you with your wig) but its just the price I pay. Everyone has their trials and tribulations in life. :dunno:

 

[HairPieceMan]

yeah true, I totally agree, im glad im out of this hell hole, the wig is the only option, my horshoe density is a joke, my hair simply cannot be saved, it is worthless, i dont have the money for it anyhow.

BUT i still think the sly bald look is kinda funny if you do the tan and earings but you DO feel like an out of place fool like that 24/7 everyday

 

[sad_spiderman]

I've read all this topic and it was very interesting...I think at the end of the day it is some kind of success for saf to have that hair at his age...even if the concelears in my opionon is something like wearing a wig...I am using concelears since 3 years and I must admit even if they do a great improvement I hate them...I am still a norwood 2 with diffuse thinning but I can have some good styles with concelears like a fauxhawk for example...anyway HairPieceMan...have you posted pictures of you hair on this site?I barely see guys on their 20's posting on hair loss forums that are wearing hair about their experinece and what kind of styles they can achieve with a piece...I see mostly older guys with not so modern haircuts...for example I've never seen a guy wearing a hair piece in a fauxhawk style.Is this because you can not achive this look? So HairPieceMan, if you've shared your pics somewhere here could you just post the link again to see them? Could you explain me if the modern styles haircuts are a problem for this wearing game? is the style I posted below a problem for a wig?
I am fed up with concelears and I know for sure that in 2 or 3 years from now on I will be a norwood 6.I've tried minoxidil and propecia for one year without so much success.
Cheers!

 

[CCS]

My story is just like SAF's, except I got on finasteride at NW4a, just in time before it got worse. My hair loss was going the same rate as his and then stopped with finasteride. The reason I got on finasteride was I have an older brother who suddenly hit NW5, giving me some warning that it could happen to me.

I also got butchered, by Bosely, though not as bad as SAF. I got micrografts, but the doctor did not even bother to match the direction of the existing hair. So my micrografts look lke a thin wig since they go the wrong direction.

I then went to another doctor who had to follow the graft direction on top, but even she (Dr Keene) failed to point them the correct direction on the sides of my head. And my second procedure with her never grew out. I think they died because the two procedures were only 7 months apart.

I too use concealers when I want to look my best.

I live in a different state, far away from friends and others who know me. So I could easily slap on a wig and no one would notice. And if they did notice, I would not care. The reason I have not gotten a wig is cost and hassel of maintenance. I could handle the cost, but the one time I bought a wig from cool piece, they did not even send my full size hair sample to the factory. They just took a smaller sample from it and sent that to save on postage. As a result, the factory got my color wrong. I can't afford to keep trying many companies before finding a good one. So I'll try a wig later when I have more money.

I have enough hair on my head that if someone is not looking at it, they might think I'm normal. But if they actually look up there, they will notice that it is very thin and not natural looking. If I have concealers, it will be a bit harder for them to notice, but it certainly does not look good either. I can go through life without being called bald, unless I actually try to hit on women younger than me, in which case they sometimes will call me on.

For now I don't even care about my hair too much. I'm just focused on making money and getting my life in order and getting into shape. I'll buy the piece later when I have money. I also go on a few dates with women I meet online, though most are not successful. Not all women, especially 45 year old women, are super picky about my hair.

 

[sad_spiderman]

CCS why you didn.t tried to.color the piece and natural hair?lot of wearers are doing so...because the hair tend to fade anyway after a while. some even order a blond.front to avoid any problems with knots being unbleached and they color it at home...i think the most important is the ventilation which if it is correct any other problems can be solved...

 

[CaptainForehead]

How old are you CCS?
And how tall?

 

[CCS]

5'8", and 30.


If I walk into a room wearing roller blades, women often don't notice them, but they do notice that I'm taller, and the hot ones have given me approving looks in the eye. I got the same reaction standing beind the counter at a convenience store where the floor is raised.

If I wear a baseball cap backwards, hiding my thinning, I get approving looks from attractive women. Same occured when I wore a hair piece, and was actually stopped on the side walk by one to say hello.

I'd say the height and the hair piece piece each were equally effective.