So, Here We Are, Q2 2018 But Where Has Shiseido Gone?

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basically what will happen (like what happened to all the other "cures") is that news of it will start to get less and less frequent (as the makers of the cure realise it doesn't work or has massive flaws) until no news is posted about it at all and it is forgotten, like the 10+ other "cures". meanwhile the forum will be to preoccupied with the next miracle cure to notice.
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My few words here...

As far as we know RCH-01 is making top hair DHT safe. And only for that it is worth releasing. Any regrowth would be a bonus, because it does not create new follicles.
We can safely call it a cure for hair loss, because it is stops hairs from falling out.


What most of you is expecting is hair regrowth and that is different story, more difficult.

RCH-01 + hair transplant + SMP(eventually)… and you maybe will have your life back.




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My few words here...

As far as we know RCH-01 is making top hair DHT safe. And only for that it is worth releasing. Any regrowth would be a bonus, because it does not create new follicles.
We can safely call it a cure for hair loss, because it is stops hairs from falling out.


What most of you is expecting is hair regrowth and that is different story, more difficult.

RCH-01 + hair transplant + SMP(eventually)… and you maybe will have your life back.




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yes, assuming this is all true and they dont magically go silent
 

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My few words here...

As far as we know RCH-01 is making top hair DHT safe. And only for that it is worth releasing. Any regrowth would be a bonus, because it does not create new follicles.
We can safely call it a cure for hair loss, because it is stops hairs from falling out.


What most of you is expecting is hair regrowth and that is different story, more difficult.

RCH-01 + hair transplant + SMP(eventually)… and you maybe will have your life back.




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I actually disagree, I think stopping the effects of hairloss is a lot more difficult than re-growing some new hair. The only thing that halts hairloss is a drug that can have devastating side effects, doesn't work in everyone, and slows down male pattern baldness to a crawl but doesn't necessarily stop it altogether. People have re-grown follicles using minoxidil and RU and hair transplants don't technically grow new follicles but they have the same cosmetic effect and they do have a super high responder rate. I'd say the majority of guys on this forum are having some degree of difficulty stabilizing their current hair and that's why they're desperate for a new treatment to come out, so they don't lose any more ground.
 

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You are right. Hope they won't.
 

ffar1989

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@Trouse

None of this products create new follicles, they just reactive sleep one/week one. If you have none in your head nothing will help you unless hair cloning or sci-fi technology.
 

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I actually disagree, I think stopping the effects of hairloss is a lot more difficult than re-growing some new hair. The only thing that halts hairloss is a drug that can have devastating side effects, doesn't work in everyone, and slows down male pattern baldness to a crawl but doesn't necessarily stop it altogether. People have re-grown follicles using minoxidil and RU and hair transplants don't technically grow new follicles but they have the same cosmetic effect and they do have a super high responder rate. I'd say the majority of guys on this forum are having some degree of difficulty stabilizing their current hair and that's why they're desperate for a new treatment to come out, so they don't lose any more ground.

Agreed, and I think the public really needs to recognise that. If there's anything the SImpsons have taught us it's that the public just wants a drug that regrows hair even if you're bald, and since we've almost got self driving cars it must be possible. Yet here we are with but a single aromatase inhibitor which may lose effectiveness over time. I hope the public see the truth about RCH-01, yes you might still need a hair transplant, but at least your descendants will never have to suffer as you did.

But the truth is the market is geared towards hair growth. Most women have destroyed their hairlines with tight ponytails, south east asians want more density, and fine haired women will do anything to increase volume. Minoxidil though? Gives you a mustache. When women realise that they're victims of traction alopecia we'll see Histogen stock prices sky rocket. But let's just hope some better maintenance technique comes out before we're forgotten in the excitement.
 

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it's been a while since the last time I heard about Shiseido, wasn't it supposed to publish some data on Q2?

This is a question I ask myself every day!

Let's face it, Shiseido and Replicel, it's originator, would be a cure!

What's interesting is I saw pictures of Replicel and Histogen, they seem to
have had the same percentage of regrowth in both.

At this point in time, I really believe that Histogen will actually beat Shiseido (time wise), and come
out first!
 

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This is a question I ask myself every day!

Let's face it, Shiseido and Replicel, it's originator, would be a cure!

What's interesting is I saw pictures of Replicel and Histogen, they seem to
have had the same percentage of regrowth in both.

At this point in time, I really believe that Histogen will actually beat Shiseido (time wise), and come
out first!

Didn't their patent run out? Plus is Histogen covered by the new Japanese laws as a regenerative medicine?
 

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Didn't their patent run out? Plus is Histogen covered by the new Japanese laws as a regenerative medicine?

I don't know, but they did trials in Japan. In fact, I think those were there first results.

They also have a scientific team working in there, and they actually progressed it (according
to indiatimes.com. I don't subscribe to them, so I can't get the article. It was in either April
or March).

So, they are advancing in Japan. That doesn't mean it will be local in the U.S., where I live
though.
 

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LoL Sooo everyone here is just going to ignore the fact that in German "SAFETY" trails every single person who recieved RCH-01 had a complete halt of hair loss that continued to be halted 3 years post injection?

Or that the average regrowth was 8% with the best responder was 20%..?? Again, with one single injection to test safety profile...

There is a reason Shisedio the 4th largest cosmetics company in the world $30 Billion MarketCap, put their money into this. As well as buliding a Cell Processing and Expansion Center...

https://www.shiseidogroup.com/releimg/2289-e.pdf

They are now essentially fine tuning the potency and number of injections required to make this a flawless procedure.

As for all those companys that found cures for stuff and shelved it well...... what do you expect from a bunch of guys who look like this lmao...

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I expect much more from the Honorable Japanese

As for the guy saying Replicel has not even started Phase 2 here in North America I LOL at him. Again this is what I was reffering to in another post. It seems absolutely none of you have looked into the updated autologous stem cell laws.......
 

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@Trouse

None of this products create new follicles, they just reactive sleep one/week one. If you have none in your head nothing will help you unless hair cloning or sci-fi technology.

Not true. The goal of RCH01 is to create new follicles. But will it be successful? That’s another story...
 

Hate da Bt

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LoL Sooo everyone here is just going to ignore the fact that in German "SAFETY" trails every single person who recieved RCH-01 had a complete halt of hair loss that continued to be halted 3 years post injection?

Or that the average regrowth was 8% with the best responder was 20%..?? Again, with one single injection to test safety profile...

There is a reason Shisedio the 4th largest cosmetics company in the world $30 Billion MarketCap, put their money into this. As well as buliding a Cell Processing and Expansion Center...

https://www.shiseidogroup.com/releimg/2289-e.pdf

They are now essentially fine tuning the potency and number of injections required to make this a flawless procedure.

As for all those companys that found cures for stuff and shelved it well...... what do you expect from a bunch of guys who look like this lmao...

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I expect much more from the Honorable Japanese

As for the guy saying Replicel has not even started Phase 2 here in North America I LOL at him. Again this is what I was reffering to in another post. It seems absolutely none of you have looked into the updated autologous stem cell laws.......
A) Phase I trial was conducted on Georgians.
B) Phase II trial is to be conducted in Germany (and was supposed to have already commenced).
C) Replicel has stopped itself claiming that RCH-01 may lead to substantial hair neogenesis.
Instead of spreading false info, just try to inform yourself appropriately. It ain't that hard.
 

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LoL Sooo everyone here is just going to ignore the fact that in German "SAFETY" trails every single person who recieved RCH-01 had a complete halt of hair loss that continued to be halted 3 years post injection?

Or that the average regrowth was 8% with the best responder was 20%..?? Again, with one single injection to test safety profile...

There is a reason Shisedio the 4th largest cosmetics company in the world $30 Billion MarketCap, put their money into this. As well as buliding a Cell Processing and Expansion Center...

https://www.shiseidogroup.com/releimg/2289-e.pdf

They are now essentially fine tuning the potency and number of injections required to make this a flawless procedure.

As for all those companys that found cures for stuff and shelved it well...... what do you expect from a bunch of guys who look like this lmao...

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I expect much more from the Honorable Japanese

As for the guy saying Replicel has not even started Phase 2 here in North America I LOL at him. Again this is what I was reffering to in another post. It seems absolutely none of you have looked into the updated autologous stem cell laws.......
They look like wrinkled old testicles wtf, they look like they are being kept alive using some underground illegal thing
 

Hate da Bt

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They look like wrinkled old testicles wtf, they look like they are being kept alive using some underground illegal thing
Mocking elderly people for their looks is really pathetic.
Not surprised, though, with your attitude.
A true incel you is, isn't ya?
 
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