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Caillou

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I'm in a worse position than you. I was bullied as a kid and still I can't detect when people are being nice to me or messing me around. I have less social skills and might even be on the spectrum (tests indicate that I'm not and I don't think that i am... Just an obsessive personality).
I was brutally bullied for years by sociopathic thugs in a ghetto growing up man. I know how you feel and I'm definitely scarred for life because of it. Also my social skills are subpar and I'm kinda awkward as well

I know how you feel, you're not alone trust me
 

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He was born good looking, I think. I have better hair than him now and my photos are more polished but I can't get half his results. I can't relate to his situation but I will consider his advice. I can start with the fashion stuff. He drew confidence from being dressed up so maybe I can.
I don't know how he looks but he can't be looking that much better than you. I saw your pictures and you have a top-tier bone structure and skull shape. Unless your eyes are badly misshapen, then you can't be below a 6/10 and I rate harshly
 

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Age is a big problem. The issue is that even women past 30, if they are single, that raises red flags and there are very few situations where it is justified.

I can only think of a few, where the women is a genius and cannot find men near her intelligence to date, where she is in a low population town without a lot of choices, or her former husband died in a war or something.

Ultimately looking to move out of the UK might be a good idea, there are great choices in Europe if your job would allow you to lateral to a different location.
I'm glad I caught up with all the relationship, social life and traveling sh*t in the last year. Always felt behind other men my age which was holding me back in the dating department. My dating market value has skyrocketed, I don't think I'll ever break up with my gf but it's still a good feeling when your gf doesn't feel like she settled down and shows you off on social media etc.
 

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I was brutally bullied for years by sociopathic thugs in a ghetto growing up man. I know how you feel and I'm definitely scarred for life because of it. Also my social skills are subpar and I'm kinda awkward as well

I know how you feel, you're not alone trust me
I grew up in a rough area and had some bad experiences in my teens as well. Some of my friends from those years randomly reached out to me out of nowhere and asked if I wanna meet them. I was hesitating at first but decided to just go for it, we ended up connecting on a deep level and now we're super close. Life is surprising. After a few months of building trust I felt safe enough to tell them I've been dealing with depression since 15 and they were surprised and said they couldn't even tell.
 

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Part of me isolating from certain dudes was because they were successful with girls and I wasn't. Nothing personal but I didn't like hearing about their life when I knew my dating life was crippled by some bs condition. I gave up on things like clubbing too of course because I had a lot of self awareness and after a few failed attempts I realized I didn't fit in and made peace with that.
 

Caillou

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I grew up in a rough area and had some bad experiences in my teens as well. Some of my friends from those years randomly reached out to me out of nowhere and asked if I wanna meet them. I was hesitating at first but decided to just go for it, we ended up connecting on a deep level and now we're super close. Life is surprising. After a few months of building trust I felt safe enough to tell them I've been dealing with depression since 15 and they were surprised and said they couldn't even tell.
It was the same for me as well. Surprisingly, the friends I met while I lived in the shitty area are the ones who stuck with me all those years and are still my best friends to this day. While the "friends" I made when I moved to the rich area 10 years ago were a bunch of scumbags who sh*t-talk one another behind each others backs and have no real connection between one another

Sometimes you find the best things in your life when you're living your toughest times
 

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Hit me like a thousand bricks back then that I couldn't go to a f*****g party anymore because I was balding
That's the stage I'm currently at myself, feeling completely socially crippled. Hopefully finasteride will stop my loss and make things better for a bit and next year I'm flying to Turkey to get a transplant and be done with this nightmare
 

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Dude you look good as f***, leave the UK and you will slay like no tomorrow

The UK is impossible mode unless you're Indian for some reason or a Chad

you know I’m Indian and in the uk
 

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Can't give you much advice when it comes to maintaining the systems, I have no experience with that. I'm sorry to hear about your troubles though but also relieved to hear the system helped a bit after all.

You're not old, men don't have an expiration date. We men are just as old as we look. For example after fixing my hairline I look mid 20's and have a girlfriend who is in her early 20's.

What kind of therapy did you get? What you need is CBT which is more practical and focuses on the present. f*** all that other sh*t, delving in the past will just make you sad and hate your parents. And yeah don't take SSRIs but if you really must, there are other types of antidepressants that don't give you sexual sides that you can try.

The height thing is exaggerated on the Internet but sure you can use lifts or boots to get a slight boost.
Age matters for a man because the number matters. A 35 year old guy who looks 25 is still 35 and the number works against him.


Just tell them about it, nothing to hide. Hair systems don't have the same social stigma wigs had 20 years ago

Lower your estrogen then. Lift more, take Zinc, eat healthier, take ashwagandha. And if all else fails take a low dose aromatase inhibitor

This is nothing more than an excuse. You're not in the right state or mind and that's why you're making issues out of thin air. Didn't you always use to tell me to get a hair system and that it's not really that expensive or exhausting to handle? Compared to the effect they have on your life, hair systems are definitely worth their price and hassle

I don't know what's it like where you live. But generally height is an internet meme. It helps greatly, but It's importance pales compared to looks and hair. You can definitely score some poon regardless of your height

You're neither an old guy nor do you look like one. Why do you act like you're some saggy 50 yo divorced man? As I said before, you're making excuses because you're not in the right state of mind

You're being too harsh on yourself man. You're doing really good especially considering the hand you were dealt with, chin up for a bit and be proud of yourself. You're in a great shape with a great job and a decent amount of money saved up. Considering that you had to deal with bullshit like premature baldness and still achieved all that is an awesome feat

Everyone has those, it's a part of being a human lol

Because you feel like dogshit. You need to turn your life around and take care of yourself first before trying to enjoy life. Don't put too much stress on your body and listen to it carefully

Yeah go back and don't take those drugs. Your issue is your mindset not your brain malfunctioning. Hopefully it will work better for you this time
I don't even like lifting anymore. Waste of time if I do not enjoy it. I don't grow because I don't have the genetics and/or don't eat well enough. It doesn't lower estrogen. You can only take so much zinc before you lower your copper and have more troubles such as problems sleeping. Ever taken a lot of zinc and had a craving for chocolate? Copper deficiency. I'll look into those things. In fact I was thinking of getting my bloods taken and then trying a bodybuilding test booster supplement. They do work.

I'm not going to stop wearing the system but just understand that there is effort and time involved. For example I want to go for a haircut. I am worried that the barbershop will screw up the system even if I ask them not to touch it. So I need to take off the system and go for the haircut. I have to therefore plan my haircut over a pair of days when I am not wearing my system. So it has to be when I'm not socializing and not going to the workplace. Guys with hair can go for a coffee with their friends and then go for a haircut on the way home or go to the workplace and go for the haircut on the way home. I can't do that.

I never wanted money or education or success or anything like that. I wanted to just be like everybody else and have a proper dating life. For 10 years I have been singing this tune.

All in all, I keep asking why would one want to work so hard for a lousy life? Isn't it better to not work hard and still have the lousy life? That's why I want to go NEET. I have a huge stack of video games to play.
 

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He was born good looking, I think. I have better hair than him now and my photos are more polished but I can't get half his results. I can't relate to his situation but I will consider his advice. I can start with the fashion stuff. He drew confidence from being dressed up so maybe I can.
If I’m better looking why are my photofeeler scores considerably worse than yours?
 

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If I’m better looking why are my photofeeler scores considerably worse than yours?
Photofeeler rates the photo not just the guy in the photo. Attractive photo and attractive person gets conflated. That's why my photos with hair now which have scores comparable with my old bald photos (because I had pro photos well dressed and all) are performing much better. On Photofeeler, it's about attractive photo. On app it's about a photo that shows an attractive person.
 

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Age matters for a man because the number matters. A 35 year old guy who looks 25 is still 35 and the number works against him.
Being 35 as a man seems like an advantage to me when you're young looking and attractive tbh

More financially stable, girls see you as mature

Only problem is when you want to live like you're in your 20's then girls are gonna see you as immature (can still get away with it but seems like a hassle)
 

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All in all, I keep asking why would one want to work so hard for a lousy life? Isn't it better to not work hard and still have the lousy life? That's why I want to go NEET. I have a huge stack of video games to play.
Don't go NEET unless you want to kill yourself in a couple of years. It's the worst thing you could possibly do

If you have nothing to lose anyway and don't care why go NEET when you can travel around the world? I guarantee you that once you get out of the shithole called the UK, you will find a partner much better than those British skanks with high standards. Go see the world and meet new people from different cultures and places. And who knows, you might finally find the one you've been looking for all those years
 

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Photofeeler rates the photo not just the guy in the photo. Attractive photo and attractive person gets conflated. That's why my photos with hair now which have scores comparable with my old bald photos (because I had pro photos well dressed and all) are performing much better. On Photofeeler, it's about attractive photo. On app it's about a photo that shows an attractive person.

no it rates your looks too
I’ve used the same photo with filters on (John wick beard) and go from a 5/10 to over 7/10

CC @Butterbean Head
 

doubleindemnity

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Being 35 as a man seems like an advantage to me when you're young looking and attractive tbh

More financially stable, girls see you as mature

Only problem is when you want to live like you're in your 20's then girls are gonna see you as immature (can still get away with it but seems like a hassle)
Back when I was 25 trying to date people around my age, were my competitors 35-40 year old NW1 financially stable guys? I think that it's more likely that it was guys in my demographic and age range but with better hair and other features. The number itself will be a turnoff.
 

Caillou

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Being 35 as a man seems like an advantage to me when you're young looking and attractive tbh

More financially stable, girls see you as mature

Only problem is when you want to live like you're in your 20's then girls are gonna see you as immature (can still get away with it but seems like a hassle)
Age doesn't matter when you look young and good. I'm 22 and Jared Leto is like 50 and even without money, fame and no arms, he will still outslay me everyday of the week with 18-20 yo hot girls despite the age difference

Age is cope if you look young and good
 

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I never wanted money or education or success or anything like that. I wanted to just be like everybody else and have a proper dating life. For 10 years I have been singing this tune.
Well being like everybody else includes money education and success my friend

Main thing I struggle with right now is my career which I kinda left behind because I focused so much on women and dating

Even now just maintaining a relationship comes at the cost of advancing my career because I like to take my time with things need a lot of space and can't function under pressure
 
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