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I think someone involved in this will talk in the conference.
It's not PTD anymore though. Choi dropped it.
South Korean Scientists Has Developed A New Type Of Biochemical Material To Prevent Hair Loss
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It's not PTD anymore though. Choi dropped it.
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Yeah, yeah. It was dropped because, as I recall, he's still working on a similar peptide; which is why someone's going to that conference.
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Well, that one's up to yo
Best of luck.
Well, that one's up to you amigo. Who knows, you might find peace in shaving your head and living your life as a bald dude.
Best of luck.
Looks exactly the same
Welp
Fear not brother, your hairline is intact and it looks good buzzed imo. I wouldn’t waste time on experimental drugs that could both f*** with your health, and not produce very good results.
Clinical studies will probably last 2-3 years. So there will be nothing before 2023-24. Its too late (for many of us here anyways), we should focus on products which are coming earlier.
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If any of you crazy fucks are really interested in this small molecule alternative to the peptide, there is a study Choi published that has the chemical structure. It’s about keeping growth plates open, if I remember right. Also involves wnt pathway.
I tried the peptide and got bad sleep side effects so take that for what it’s worth. I think I was the only one out of 20 or so people that had it. Maybe wait for the news of preclinical trials and see if it could be synthesized somewhere for a GB.
But from what I remember about the first paper that came out in Nov ‘17, the science is rock solid. I think they even got DP cells to proliferate (in vitro) despite the presence of androgens. Exciting news, thanks for the update @Pigeon
I tried the peptide and got bad sleep side effects so take that for what it’s worth. I think I was the only one out of 20 or so people that had it. Maybe wait for the news of preclinical trials and see if it could be synthesized somewhere for a GB.
But from what I remember about the first paper that came out in Nov ‘17, the science is rock solid. I think they even got DP cells to proliferate (in vitro) despite the presence of androgens. Exciting news, thanks for the update @Pigeon
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Oh stop crying.
You don’t know any of that. You’re speculating.
We want facts not your tears.
Bad example (not Androgenetic Alopecia, woman, other health issues,etc). If it really worked Choi would have already come forward.
Don’t even know how that’s possible considering a peptide is like 3000mol/g in size - way above the 500 dalton gate even with wounding.
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The skin isn't the only pathway for substances to enter the scalp.
https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/full/10.1586/14760584.2014.862500?src=recsys
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Dr. Choi is planning to start clinical trials some time this year as of this past July. It seems that they are using different molecules then PTD-DBM
https://www.folliclethought.com/ptd-dbm-update-qa-with-dr-kang-yell-choi/
Sanchez1234
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I was in the group but big fail cause size was like 3000 daltons? Even with needling it didnt do anything.
So how did the guys fix it since it was the most promosing thing out there 1.5 years ago.
@whatevr
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Any before after pictures?
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And how many times have we heard people report "Great Success" when in truth it's a "Great Failure." It sucks getting excited, following the progress only to have the treatment fail. It's the rollercoaster we must ride until a cure or solid treatment comes out. Hang in there!
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You can buy it from online clinics. Here are the details.
When you buy from these clinics you are getting
PTD-DBM % of concentration at .001% = 1mg per bottle and the Valproic acid is a 25mL bottle and is 2mg per mL.
They reference these papers:
https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0022202X17315555
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4493411/
I have doubts about the concentration and the results. Anyone would like to comment if it's worth it?
Pharmacy is using the dose discussed in the South Korean studies (see below). They initially did it higher but didn't see substantially better results. Both studies reference human and mice results.
https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0022202X17315555
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4493411/
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When you buy from these clinics you are getting
PTD-DBM % of concentration at .001% = 1mg per bottle and the Valproic acid is a 25mL bottle and is 2mg per mL.
They reference these papers:
https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0022202X17315555
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4493411/
I have doubts about the concentration and the results. Anyone would like to comment if it's worth it?
Pharmacy is using the dose discussed in the South Korean studies (see below). They initially did it higher but didn't see substantially better results. Both studies reference human and mice results.
https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0022202X17315555
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4493411/
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Sanchez1234
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Where does it show that pharmacy tried higher dose?
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They won't do that. The dosage they give is the max they will do. The clinic person tells me that this dosage is similar to what was in the study. Is that right?