Stemson is going to use minipigs in the next stage of their hair cloning research

eeyore

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Most companies hire employees to conduct trials. The researchers themselves do not conduct them.
What would researchers be doing while waiting for trial results? Isn't it different at a startup, as I assumed that generally in startups people have to do whatever they can even if it's outside of their job responsibilities.
 

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They are still in research and development stage ("studies"). Testing and Iterating different protocols, refining their methods etc.

Human trials will only happen after they have a v1 ready.
 

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I hope stemson won't just transplant one hair in the study. I want to see an nw7 on nw1. Preferably 20-100 study participants directly
I expect them trying to 'cure' different kind of hair loss in a study at once to understand the diseases in conjunction with the mechanism of their method better.
 

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I hope stemson won't just transplant one hair in the study. I want to see an nw7 on nw1. Preferably 20-100 study participants directly
Prepare to be disappointed. They're going to do what they did on the mouse/pigs except on a human. It will be 1 sq/cm and they'll probably do various levels of density to see what happens as more follicles are placed in one area/
 

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Small difference between "want" and "can't", guess after all this failures there won't be a cure anytime soon and the only thing we can expect is some dudes hoping to get funded until they finally fail miserably like every other one before.
sometimes I have the feeling researchers don't want to finish
 

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Small difference between "want" and "can't", guess after all this failures there won't be a cure anytime soon and the only thing we can expect is some dudes hoping to get funded until they finally fail miserably like every other one before.
Ok Mr.Negative. Life is meaningless and we're all going die cold and alone.
 

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You didn't see my thread? 10 years.
Although I do believe we are getting close, I wish I could be as confident as you. I'd be scheduling a hair transplant for the this year, even if I could grow it back in the future.

Pretty eager to hear what comes from the KY buy.
 

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Posting this for everyone asking about cancer.

 

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you were always so optimistic? Now you don't think Stemson will be available in 10 years?

@pegasus2 which minute?
No they could be, but I wouldn't get a hair transplant now if i could just get new hair without scaring up my donor at all in 4-5 years. With non-surgical regrowth treatments I think It would be a tough ask to regrow a perfect hairline after it's been gone awhile, so I would just fill in the temples and be comfortable knowing I could regrow any further loss.
 

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8:00 I think? The whole interview is interesting if you have the time
Funniest part of that video for me is the disconnect between the science (Alexie) and the business itself. He openly says that they have a long way to go before this might be available (3-4 years and probably longer in his own words as of late 2020), yet in the business calls with the VC backers they sound like they are racing forward towards clinical trials and quick commercialization.

The biggest take away from it though is that he states that the challenges they still face are not fundamental, but rather small and technical. I think most people will be able to wait 3-4 years for a perfect hair of hair, though.
 

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Funniest part of that video for me is the disconnect between the science (Alexie) and the business itself. He openly says that they have a long way to go before this might be available (3-4 years and probably longer in his own words as of late 2020), yet in the business calls with the VC backers they sound like they are racing forward towards clinical trials and quick commercialization.

The biggest take away from it though is that he states that the challenges they still face are not fundamental, but rather small and technical. I think most people will be able to wait 3-4 years for a perfect hair of hair, though.
So you think it's safe to say that the longer of the two is a fairly reliable estimate, or they're both out of their leagues and it'll take 15 years?
 

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So you think it's safe to say that the longer of the two is a fairly reliable estimate, or they're both out of their leagues and it'll take 15 years?
The company will be long bankrupt and extinct if it takes 15 years, they have no other products. I would say take the person who actually developed the process/sciences' word for it over the business people who need to generate hype. 3-5 years before preformed commercially, if all goes well in trials.

The success of the pig trial will be pivotal. Alexei even says in that video that mouse models are a poor proxy for human skin, so it's success in pig skin will show where the process is headed. If they fail at getting proper hair growth in a pig then they wont be going anywhere near humans.
 
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