The Eternal Male Pattern Baldness Mistery - Solved

[Jakejr]

Skull expansion & tight scalp muscles is pseudo science. There is not any reputable doctors, researchers, government agencies who propagate these theories.
Quite simply as your hair recedes & balds more of the skull is exposed. This is not skull expansion this is fewer hairs on the scalp.
Observationally, it appears the skull is expanding, popping out from less hair cover.
But regrow the hair & it will appear the skull is getting smaller.
So inject Botox in the forehead?
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5096242
Hope link works. If not google Botox in forehead causes baldness

 

[Ikarus]

https://perfecthairhealth.com/the-ultimate-hair-loss-flowchart-why-we-lose-our-hair/
Very interesting article. You must read this!

My favourite part was when they didn’t show proof!

 

[Armando Jose]

If important androgen is made in pilosebaceous unit then why prepubescent castrate don't get bald? They don't have serum androgen but have pilosebaceous unit,if you were correct they would also go bald ,but they don't.

It is possible
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/15787828
"We report 20 prepubertal children with Androgenetic Alopecia, 12 girls and eight boys, age range 6-10 years, observed over the last 4 years. All had normal physical development. Clinical examination showed hair loss with thinning and widening of the central parting of the scalp, both in boys and girls. In eight cases frontal accentuation and breach of frontal hairline were also present. The clinical diagnosis was confirmed by pull test, trichogram and dermoscopy in all cases, and by scalp biopsy performed in six cases"

 

[Mandar kumthekar]

It could have been something different which they mistaken as androgenic alopecia. The article had stated further evaluation nis necessary and didn't have any word on pilosebaceous unit producing dht in these patients. I don't by the pilosebaceous theory,it that were case we would have many children with androgenic alopecia.

 

[Armando Jose]

Common baldness is a degenerative process where the first events are slow upon the time, and easily reversibles. Then we can asess bald areas the process began years early. This is my idea but I can be wrong.

BTW, do you think that childrens of 6 or 8 years don`t produce hair fat or sebum in scalp? Yes or Not? Take your time ....

 

[Armando Jose]

Why massaging your scalp amd brushing your hair with a wooden brush will take FIBROSIS away and hair will grow back?

Surely with this regimen you can take away the sebum from head.

Why does female pattern baldness exist? Is it due to those external factors?

Today most of scientists think about an universal baldness classification

Indo believe if women have androgen as much as men they would bald also like men in same pattern and speed.

 

[Aki]

If asian men have scalp expansion and go bald just like caucasians, then why is their hair loss delayed twenty years. Does it take twenty years for their scalp to full develop.

 

[TK421]

If dht isn't the cause of male pattern baldness, then explain why dht blockers like finasteride and dutasteride work for alot of users? Unfortunately it didn't work for me, but it seems to work for the majority who use them. And to answer the question why do older men with declining dht levels experience hairloss I'm assuming it's because if your hair follicles are overly sensitive to hormones you'll experience gradual loss despite declining levels in hormones. Look I really wanted to believe your theory and I even bought that stupid e-book by Rob and his theory of calcification and lack of circulation as the causes of male pattern baldness, but if scalp massage was the cure for hairloss wouldn't you think you'd see more results than just two people (Rob and that other guy that promotes his website)?

 

[Mandar kumthekar]

If dht isn't the cause of male pattern baldness, then explain why dht blockers like finasteride and dutasteride work for alot of users? Unfortunately it didn't work for me, but it seems to work for the majority who use them. And to answer the question why do older men with declining dht levels experience hairloss I'm assuming it's because if your hair follicles are overly sensitive to hormones you'll experience gradual loss despite declining levels in hormones. Look I really wanted to believe your theory and I even bought that stupid e-book by Rob and his theory of calcification and lack of circulation as the causes of male pattern baldness, but if scalp massage was the cure for hairloss wouldn't you think you'd see more results than just two people (Rob and that other guy that promotes his website)?

Rob and Danny Roddy and others are scammers.they were never bald and have not shown their before and after photos so far on their site. They have been fooling people and making money out of it so that they could gather money for their own hair transplants. I am sure Danny roody and rob wears a wig or has a good hair transplant.

 

[Mitko1]

If dht isn't the cause of male pattern baldness, then explain why dht blockers like finasteride and dutasteride work for alot of users? Unfortunately it didn't work for me, but it seems to work for the majority who use them. And to answer the question why do older men with declining dht levels experience hairloss I'm assuming it's because if your hair follicles are overly sensitive to hormones you'll experience gradual loss despite declining levels in hormones. Look I really wanted to believe your theory and I even bought that stupid e-book by Rob and his theory of calcification and lack of circulation as the causes of male pattern baldness, but if scalp massage was the cure for hairloss wouldn't you think you'd see more results than just two people (Rob and that other guy that promotes his website)?

DHT blockers work because they delay the development of future calcification and fibrosis. I also explained this in my first post. I personally think older men with declining androgen levels experience hair loss due to hormonal imbalance which causes inflammation.
Male pattern baldness is mostly due to your anatomy. That's why father and son often bald in the same pattern.
It's your HEAD SHAPE that induced the muscle tension. The muscles on the sides contract constantly tightening the top restricting the blood flow causing hypoxia which results in chronic inflammation. This chronic inflammation results in increased DHT in the scalp and this DHT in the scalp causes calcification and fibrosis. Balding men have different scull structure than non-balding men.
Of course there are other factors but you are likely to inherit the anatomy and biochemistry of your father. That's why male pattern baldness is often passed from father to son.

 

[Ikarus]

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DHT blockers work because they delay the development of future calcification and fibrosis. I also explained this in my first post. I personally think older men with declining androgen levels experience hair loss due to hormonal imbalance which causes inflammation.
Male pattern baldness is mostly due to your anatomy. That's why father and son often bald in the same pattern.
It's your HEAD SHAPE that induced the muscle tension. The muscles on the sides contract constantly tightening the top restricting the blood flow causing hypoxia which results in chronic inflammation. This chronic inflammation results in increased DHT in the scalp and this DHT in the scalp causes calcification and fibrosis. Balding men have different scull structure than non-balding men.
Of course there are other factors but you are likely to inherit the anatomy and biochemistry of your father. That's why male pattern baldness is often passed from father to son.

My father has a full head of hair at nearly 60 years old...

 

[Mitko1]

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My father has a full head of hair at nearly 60 years old...

You have a mother too and two grandfathers
How they are doing? Is your diffuse thinning getting worse? It is all over the top of your head or only in one area? It is patterned or unpatterned?

 

[Ikarus]

You have a mother too and two grandfathers
How they are doing? Is your diffuse thinning getting worse? It is all over the top of your head or only in one area? It is patterned or unpatterned?

Mine is diffuse thinning, and it’s not getting worse because I’m on spironolactone, estrogen and dutasteride. My mothers hair loss is due to the menopause, in which she will go on HRT for. I don’t know who my grandfathers are. I have the same head shape as my father, and similar facial development.

 

[Mitko1]

Mine is diffuse thinning, and it’s not getting worse because I’m on spironolactone, estrogen and dutasteride. My mothers hair loss is due to the menopause, in which she will go on HRT for. I don’t know who my grandfathers are. I have the same head shape as my father, and similar facial development.

You may have gotten the genes of your mother or one of your grandmothers who knows.

 

[Mandar kumthekar]

That's why male pattern baldness is often passed from father to son.

My father had been thick hair until he turns 65 ,now at 73 he is thinning fast idk why. He had marvelous head of hair when he was 40 and here I am 33 and balding. male pattern baldness mostly comes from maternal side. And head shape has nothing to do with it. I also believed that bulshit and opened threads here but then I convinced that genetic androgen sensitivity is cause of mob not the galea,head shape,muscles.

 

[TK421]

DHT blockers work because they delay the development of future calcification and fibrosis. I also explained this in my first post. I personally think older men with declining androgen levels experience hair loss due to hormonal imbalance which causes inflammation.
Male pattern baldness is mostly due to your anatomy. That's why father and son often bald in the same pattern.
It's your HEAD SHAPE that induced the muscle tension. The muscles on the sides contract constantly tightening the top restricting the blood flow causing hypoxia which results in chronic inflammation. This chronic inflammation results in increased DHT in the scalp and this DHT in the scalp causes calcification and fibrosis. Balding men have different scull structure than non-balding men.
Of course there are other factors but you are likely to inherit the anatomy and biochemistry of your father. That's why male pattern baldness is often passed from father to son.

If this theory is true, then wouldn't scalp massages work to break up calcification while increasing blood flow? Show me one person (besides Rob and the other guy promoting Rob's website) that reversed or even maintained with scalp exercises.

 

[Mitko1]

If this theory is true, then wouldn't scalp massages work to break up calcification while increasing blood flow? Show me one person (besides Rob and the other guy promoting Rob's website) that reversed or even maintained with scalp exercises.

Scalp exercises do break up the calcification and fibrosis but you must do it 30 minutes a day if you do it with your hands. The most effective way to do it is by using wooden brush 3-5 minutes a day. Three guys did this. Write Dmitry Tamoikin on you tube. He did an experiment to stop his hair loss which was successful and then stopped after a while to cause hair loss and to prove that it works.

 

[Unlucky93]

Scalp exercises do break up the calcification and fibrosis but you must do it 30 minutes a day if you do it with your hands. The most effective way to do it is by using wooden brush 3-5 minutes a day. Three guys did this. Write Dmitry Tamoikin on you tube. He did an experiment to stop his hair loss which was successful and then stopped after a while to cause hair loss and to prove that it works.

What's with the wooden brush obsession? Show me a pic of the type of brush you mean.

 

[Mitko1]

What's with the wooden brush obsession? Show me a pic of the type of brush you mean.

 

[Mitko1]

I have new thoughts about hair loss. I think the muscle tension itself is not the only thing that is responsible for it. I think the more developed muscle and muscle tension explain why men and women are balding in different pattern and why men's hair loss is more extensive. But there is one questioning thing: What causes inflammation in the body and excessive tissue dht that triggers fibrosis and/or calcification? I think different people have different causes of their hair loss but only the result is the same. Imbalance of testosterone: estrogen ratio, elevated prolactin, cortisol, insulin resistance, liver issues, high blood pressure, thyroid issue all may cause hair loss, but you should be GENETICALLY PRONE for hair loss to occur. You won't lose hair unless you are genetically prone to it. Some people won't lose a single hair because of their hormonal imbalances. I saw a man in his 80s who hadn't loss a single hair despite having extra body hair. It depends on the balances of your calcification regulators, your body's ability to make fibrosis. I think people who don't lose hair despite being obese and unhealthy lack the genetic ability of increased DHT to trigger development of fibrosis or something and do not.
Women typically don't lose hair till their forties or beyond when estrogen levels decline. So there is connection between testosterone and estrogen ratios. Young men with androgenetic alopecia have similar hormonal profile as women with polycystic ovary syndrome.
So hormonal imbalances, genetics and muscles are the real cause of hair loss. It's no coincidence that the prevalence of male pattern hair loss gets higher with the age as men's testoterone levels drop and individual's health declines. To treat male pattern hair loss we should focus on primarily on fibrosis and health improvement. I posted an articles that explains why the areas where the hair loss occurs are hard, stiff and shiny. Beacause of collagen overproduction. Different people have different susceptibility to hair loss. Some Don't have the susceptibility to go past Norwood 2, some stop at Norwood 3,but others have the ability to develop so severe fibrosis leading to almost complete baldness. People who never go bald lack the genetic ability to create fibrosis or retain good health condition, hormone levels and healthy lifestyle through their life. The second type of people are rare it's usually the first.
Today's generation is balding ridiculously early. I saw old photos of my grandfather collegues( men in their forties) and no one of the has andvanced balding pattern Norwood 3 or worse. Today it's pretty common to see men balding in their twenties and early thirties. It's because of all the crap we eat, the exposure to radiation, poluted atmosphere, environmental stress and sedentary lifestyle.

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