The Girl Of My Dreams Dumped Me...a Wake Up Call To Get On The Big 3

[shookwun]

Shookwun, I don't think a 53-year-old woman is the person to judge Dante's looks. I think Wolf Pack is the guy for that. I can't see him through the eyes of those his age. It's true that some aspects of his appearance can be improved. Depending on the type of his acne scars, though, he may not have huge improvement. My sister suffered from cystic acne and had dermabrasion/fillers years ago, with little improvement. I'm sure procedures have since improved; how much, I don't know. A rhinoplasty could make a world of difference. I had one at 15, and my profile improved immensely. He could try a hair transplant, but not everyone has success (I pray my son will be a good candidate should he choose that route someday). Braces are an easy fix for this teeth. I kind of agree with him and Cope4Life on the physique, though. It sounds as though my son is the same height and has a similar frame to both of them. He weighs 124 pounds. I'm small myself, but I lift faithfully and heavy for me, and I'm not lying when I say my forearms are bigger than his upper arms. He's a toothpick. Sure, he could improve his physique, but without steroids, I don't see him making significant gains. Just my thoughts.

reminds me of my former self, I was around 125lb at 5'9-5'10 at 19 before I lifted.

I think after a few years I got to around 160ish pounds lean, and brought my arms up 3 inches. this was all done naturally.


I wasn't big, but I had appreciable size and was bigger then the average person within my age group/.

 

[Joan]

reminds me of my former self, I was around 125lb at 5'9-5'10 at 19 before I lifted.

I think after a few years I got to around 160ish pounds lean, and brought my arms up 3 inches. this was all done naturally.


I wasn't big, but I had appreciable size and was bigger then the average person.

How big is your frame? My son is narrow. He wears a size 30 pants, and they fall off him.

 

[shookwun]

How big is your frame? My son is narrow. He wears a size 30 pants, and they fall off him.

Before I started lifting weights I was wearing 26-28 inch skinny jeans. I wear size 30-32 now. The glutes! lol

my legs were literally 18 inches around the thickest part. I used to wear long johns under neath just to give me a little size. I now have 26 inch quads.


I was the skinniest person I have ever met. I still have never met anyone who was formerly skinnier then me

And No i am not talking about the average lanky guy whos 150 lb, then lifts and becomes big in a year.

A real skinny guy with a tiny frame.

 

[Joan]

But steroids have played a part in what you have attained, right? I'm not condemning them. I considered taking them myself when I was in my 20s. Also, do you think your metabolism slowed down with age, allowing you to put on some weight? I'm hoping that will happen for my son. My younger son is the opposite. If I could put them in a bag and shake them up, they'd both be just right.

 

[resu]

I never lied nor exaggerated about my appearance, my experiences are an excellent proof of this (consider those I wrote about). However, I'm not gonna send a picture of myself to a complete stranger, especially after writing so many personal things.

I can't accept that you consider yourself uglier than that guy I posted the other day, Casey:

Him being ugly is not his personal choice but he's a complete knobhead, try to watch the video in full, I can't, the cringe levels are off the chart.

 

[shookwun]

But steroids have played a part in what you have attained, right? I'm not condemning them. I considered taking them myself when I was in my 20s. Also, do you think your metabolism slowed down with age, allowing you to put on some weight? I'm hoping that will happen for my son. My younger son is the opposite. If I could put them in a bag and shake them up, they'd both be just right.

They have attributed an enormous amount to what I have achieved. However they are not needed.

I wanted more, I want to be ridiculously big. To be a normal appreciable size, you can attain without.

Granted the gym culture today is fueled with pathetic weaklings. steroids first, gym after is todays culture.

Nobody wants to put in work, they think you need steroids to build a decent aesthetic physique. Which is completely wrong!


My metabolism hasn't slowed down one bit, it's so fast.... I eat enormous amounts of calories. When I stay in a work camp, I am eating easily over 4000 a day. At dinner alone with desert I am eating 1250-1500. my body is not sensitive to insulin like a fat person. I can eat desert after every meal, and i simply don't store the extra calories as far. my body utilizes everything, and the excess gets pooped out.

even on my days off, I will plow through pizza, and sweets ontop of eating lots of beef, chicken, and eggs. I just stay lean effortlessly.

And no it's not the drugs, and tren. Like ronnie coleman says... genetics.

He used to eat pizza every day, and junk.

Everyone utilizes what they eat diffrently. Some people get fat by just looking at carbs.

 

[Joan]

They have attributed an enormous amount to what I have achieved. However they are not needed.

I wanted more, I want to be ridiculously big. To be a normal appreciable size, you can attain without.

Granted the gym culture today is fueled with pathetic weaklings. steroids first, gym after is todays culture.

Nobody wants to put in work, they think you need steroids to build a decent aesthetic physique. Which is completely wrong!


My metabolism hasn't slowed down one bit, it's so fast.... I eat enormous amounts of calories. When I stay in a work camp, I am eating easily over 4000 a day. At dinner alone with desert I am eating 1250-1500. my body is not sensitive to insulin like a fat person. I can eat desert after every meal, and i simply don't store the extra calories as far. my body utilizes everything, and the excess gets pooped out.

even on my days off, I will plow through pizza, and sweets ontop of eating lots of beef, chicken, and eggs. I just stay lean effortlessly.

And no it's not the drugs, and tren. Like ronnie coleman says... genetics.

He used to eat pizza every day, and junk.

Everyone utilizes what they eat diffrently. Some people get fat by just looking at carbs.

My metabolism started slowing down at around 21. Prior to that, I ate anything and everything, seven days a week. Throughout the years, I have adjusted my eating habits to the changes in my metabolism. I reward myself on weekends now. You might be one of the lucky ones who never have to worry about that.

You are right about gym and discipline first. I commend you on your dedication and all the hard work you've put into your physique. Should my son decide to lift, I'd be curious to see what kind of results he'd achieve. He's a twig, like you once were, and I think he'd always be considered a small guy, albeit with some muscle, no matter how hard he lifted. He has no desire for any of that now, though. Maybe after he graduates college next year he'll change his mind. This place does a number on me sometimes--incel, gymcel, baldcel--there's a "cel" for everything. Makes me worried and sad.

 

[shookwun]

My metabolism started slowing down at around 21. Prior to that, I ate anything and everything, seven days a week. Throughout the years, I have adjusted my eating habits to the changes in my metabolism. I reward myself on weekends now. You might be one of the lucky ones who never have to worry about that.

You are right about gym and discipline first. I commend you on your dedication and all the hard work you've put into your physique. Should my son decide to lift, I'd be curious to see what kind of results he'd achieve. He's a twig, like you once were, and I think he'd always be considered a small guy, albeit with some muscle, no matter how hard he lifted. He has no desire for any of that now, though. Maybe after he graduates college next year he'll change his mind. This place does a number on me sometimes--incel, gymcel, baldcel--there's a "cel" for everything. Makes me worried and sad.

He will never be big, but he can expect to look trim, in shape and have better posture at the end of it all.

I was happy with my results, but once you have been in this game for so long there is no stopping. Always want more.


He will look good, and that's all that count. In a few years he can expect to look better then most other men who don't train.


I had no desire until around 19 years old, started off with some DVD work outs. Purchase a 20,25,15, and 10 LB dumb set, chin up bar, and made a dip station in the corner of a wall. That's how my addiction all started. Those home work outs for a few months, 2-3 times a week getting a pump.

 

[Joan]

He will never be big, but he can expect to look trim, in shape and have better posture at the end of it all.

I was happy with my results, but once you have been in this game for so long there is no stopping. Always want more.


He will look good, and that's all that count. In a few years he can expect to look better then most other men who don't train.


I had no desire until around 19 years old, started off with some DVD work outs. Purchase a 20,25,15, and 10 LB dumb set, chin up bar, and made a dip station in the corner of a wall. That's how my addiction all started. Those home work outs for a few months, 2-3 times a week getting a pump.

Thank you for the encouragement.
You are right when you say it's an addiction. It's a love affair with muscle. Mine began way, way back in the '70s when I saw women's bodybuilding on the Wide World of Sports. To me, there's nothing more beautiful than muscle on a feminine physique.

 

[CaptainForehead]

With the exception of Captain Forhead, because he lifts, has over 250,000 in savings. Dudes legit.

I wish I had that much in savings.

 

[buckthorn]

there's a HUGE difference between being fake *** confident in social situations to appease these social w****s that are constantly judging you and trying to suck your c***, and confidence in your trade, your art and your soul. I have confidence in my work. I have confidence in my music. I don't give a f*** about walking up to some woman or some man with some overwhelming social confidence in presenting myself.

everyone needs to chill the f*** out with this "confidence" crap, because those that are talking about it, are praising a false, bullshit type of confidence. Life isn't a show or a f*****g play.

 

[shookwun]

I can't accept that you consider yourself uglier than that guy I posted the other day, Casey:

Him being ugly is not his personal choice but he's a complete knobhead, try to watch the video in full, I can't, the cringe levels are off the chart.

No wonder he wears sun glasses every where, he's hideous

Confirms my theory behind the mid portion of a face is what makes a beautiful person.

His skull shape, jaw, and chin are all good. His nasty eyes, brow, and nose are what make him ugly.

 

[Roberto_72]

Nope i had cancer just read my old post


But my parents gave me the gift "strength"

Be strenght in your life.

I am sorry you had cancer but I am happy that you survived it.
However, in my opinion this does not give you a free pass for downplaying anyone's plight by surmising there is an easy way out of other less dangerous diseases or that these diseases should not affect your day to day life.

 

[Exodus2011]

wat about your good job dante? use that money to get a hair transplant

i live with my mom in poverty and the combo of hair loss + preexisting social anxiety has made me basically pseudo agoraphobic at this point. 23 and never had a job, not even a degree because ive just taken online classes. 1-2 classes away from an associates but f*** these last classes have to be in real life

count the lucky star of being nw4 and (presumably?) having good income.

id have to save up a lot more with the nw6 i have. lol honestly my mental issues are worse at this point.

f*** sh*t im just gonna take up drinking and only hang around incel nerds , easy at least with my comp sci major

also the feeling of being NEET SUCKS ***. realizing its your fault but still being too scared. and the shame too. f*** in asia they kill themselves over shame

 

[blackg]

I've got nasty, dead eyes, with dark circles, and a similarly big nose, coupled with a huge forehead and Norwood 4 hair. But I'm not as lucky as him in terms of skull shape, chin and jaw. I'm at least 20 years younger, and he's better looking than me.

Yeah, I didn't think that guy was terrible looking, to tell you the truth.
Some people here are very hash. Especially when they, themselves, are definitely not male models.

 

[FootyStar]

Yeah, I didn't think that guy was terrible looking, to tell you the truth.
Some people here are very hash. Especially when they, themselves, are definitely not male models.

I also think the guy doesn't look too bad. The only thing really throwing off this guy's features is his big nose and tiny philtrum. Without those he looks pretty darn good:

 

[Baldingat188]

I feel like I have a decent looking face with hair (6/10) but if you take away the hair it really would look ugly (2/10). I guess hair has allowed me to trick people into looking good. People with tall big frames and masculine faces must get peace of mind from knowing even if they lose their battle with hair loss they still have a chance to look normal. Whats always been the problem for me has been the combination of problems. Mostly talking physical here - baldness sucks , shortness sucks - but combine them? terrible. having a strange head shape doesn't help either.

I agree on the point that you can change somethings but in reality most of us are stuck with how we look. outside of plastic surgery which is a little extreme theres no real way to beat an ugly face. Its not healthy to think that "its all genetics" but it really kind of is. I just look at the stockpile of problems some of us were handed and it seems ridiculous. How can some people get SO many good qualities and others struggle to get a few?

 

[resu]

I also think the guy doesn't look too bad. The only thing really throwing off this guy's features is his big nose and tiny philtrum. Without those he looks pretty darn good:

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In motion and the way he speaks is quite far from the normal range, he looks like a real life cartoon. I agree that if his nose was less pronounced and not so close to his mouth he would look good in his default idle expression, just shows you how a single flaw and your aesthetics are done.

He compensates by being high-energy, just do that Dante, get yourself a skakeboard and with three go-pros and an SLR attached to a selfie stick ride the streets of Italy like you owned the place.

 

[Illusions]

Hi everyone,

Firstly, I sympathize with everyone here, and despite me thinking this section of the forum is not really good for a person's mental health, I just needed to post this to let everyone know of what happened.

So actually, compared to some of the people on here, I am not justified to complain about my situation, because I could have it a lot worse. I'm 6'5, broad shouldered and overall pretty strong, have a good degree from a good school, have been told I'm handsome by many girls in the past, had girls chase me, life was good. I'm 24 by the way.

However, in the past 2 years, my hair has been decimated, and it is diffusing in a nw5 pattern. My hairline is see through, crown has rapidly faded to the point it is almost gone, and the stuff in the middle is there but diffusing too. I didn't think to get on anything, because at the time I was with a girl who loved me, and I loved her as well, and thought that it'll slow down on its own and she'll still like me for all my other positive qualities.

But, yesterday she dropped a hammer on me that she wants to end this (out of no-where, I did nothing wrong or different than what I usually did) and she went no contact on me. I pleaded to ask her what I did wrong, and she just said that she just wants to be friends, and kept her comments terse and cold.

Naturally, I was dumbfounded, but deep down, I know what the reason is. Despite being in great shape, low bf, my face has never looked better, I simply realized how big of a deal breaker this is, especially for a girl like her who is very attractive and can get pretty much any guy.

So, let this just serve as a warning to anyone in a relationship thinking that it will all be good. I just went and bought some 5% minoxidil and made a doctor's appointment to get finasteride, hopefully since my loss is recent i'll be able to make a recovery.

The moral of the story: I believed in ideals and not in reality, and it cost me. And now the girl of my dreams dumped me and I feel like sh*t, with sh*t hair to go with it. I would do anything to go back in time and start treatment early enough.

You're a fool to automatically think she left you because of your hair. There's a chance that was a factor but I can almost guarantee that alone wouldn't have been the reason, it is much more likely that the fact that you were insecure and trying to hide your hairloss put her off way more than the hairloss its self.

 

[shookwun]

Some people have no idea & concept behind aesthetics, and what makes a beautiful person.

that guy is ugly as f***.


still nw1 though