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Old Baldy

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seancashmere said:
"always look on the briiiiiiiiight side of life" *eric idle voice*

Seriously though, check it out....

http://healthclock.healthology.com/focu ... ide&spg=FI

So even if the treatments dont work for us, not only should we not discourage ourselves from getting our hopes up, we actually should be positive anyway... for heart health

Sorry, but my heart doesn't grow hair. What I NEED is folicle health.
APlunk1, sorry man, but you're dellusional. Like me, I'm sure you've scoured these boards, the Internet and whatever readings you could find on this. And like me, you're still getting progressively balder. Fellas, if there was a "real" solution to this thing, there wouldn't be rich bald men. They'd have found the "cure" long ago and stopped this disaster in its tracks. New research is only being done to acheive what past snake oils have, a wad from our collective wallets. Egads men, have you not read the article, the "milestone" is only in relation to Curis' stock potential and bonus income. They'd probably just stabilized the vehicle that will carry whatever finitely usefull chemical they plan to have us apply. It probably was just a matter of whether it be water or petroleum jelly based. It's all esoteric and highly ineffectual. Again, I apologize for giving you all the dosage of reality you unfortunately lack.

I used to think like you. I was wrong.

But you're right - there is no cure yet. That doesn't mean modern treatments won't regrow some hair and stop the progression of male pattern baldness to a good extent though.

We have some decent stuff available and it isn't all snakeoil like I used to think.
 

Britannia

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Ive been out of the hairloss loop for a while now so "Curis" is all new to me. But all I needed to know was that P&G have invested $2.8 million to be convinced about the great potential of this new product.
 

seancashmere

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You all are under the impression that maybe I came on here to discourage you? I hope not. So not true. I just think, however, that sometimes some of you have far fetched hopes. The science is still inferior as compared to the human body. I just don't see a cure ever happening and the treatments don't really produce reasonable results. Maybe they prolong the inevitable for a short period, but the daunting hoops you have to jump through... all the applying and side effects and stress involved in everything. It's discouraging, yes. But as downtrodden as my attitude is, I just hope you all are grounded in how you see this thing, not discouraged.
 

powersam

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how could you possibly feel downtrodden or pessimistic seancashmere, you have such a great regimen there how could you not see success :)
 
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sean are you a friggen idiot? with regards to your earlier post you sir are a moron. Do a little biology FFS....aids, common cold are MUTABLE SICKNESSES that are seperate organisms from your own body...male pattern baldness IS NOT! It is the result of genetic programming...the same genetics that construct your bones, the same that color your eyes...your genes dictate all of it...you want to hit male pattern baldness, you need to hit the molecular products that are created by the bald genes from every angle...something IMO which is impossible to do, but hopefully through haircloning I believe it is possible.
 

seancashmere

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TheMoose said:
sean are you a friggen idiot? with regards to your earlier post you sir are a moron. Do a little biology FFS....aids, common cold are MUTABLE SICKNESSES that are seperate organisms from your own body...male pattern baldness IS NOT! It is the result of genetic programming...the same genetics that construct your bones, the same that color your eyes...your genes dictate all of it...you want to hit male pattern baldness, you need to hit the molecular products that are created by the bald genes from every angle...something IMO which is impossible to do, but hopefully through haircloning I believe it is possible.

Haircloning isn't addressing genetics in your body. I mean seriously, isn't that reproducing the hairs once they are removed from your scalp? Still, I stand by my original opinion, barely anything is curable.
 

Aplunk1

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seancashmere said:
TheMoose said:
sean are you a friggen idiot? with regards to your earlier post you sir are a moron. Do a little biology FFS....aids, common cold are MUTABLE SICKNESSES that are seperate organisms from your own body...male pattern baldness IS NOT! It is the result of genetic programming...the same genetics that construct your bones, the same that color your eyes...your genes dictate all of it...you want to hit male pattern baldness, you need to hit the molecular products that are created by the bald genes from every angle...something IMO which is impossible to do, but hopefully through haircloning I believe it is possible.

Haircloning isn't not addressing genetics in your body. I mean seriously, isn't that reproducing the hairs once they are removed from your scalp? Still, I stand by my original opinion, barely anything is curable.

Hair cloning does not stop the genetic process...

Who knows? Maybe DHT is actually good for our bodies in the long run? Hell, I wouldn't care. I wouldn't mind going completely bald and going through a HM procedure-- I'd still be bald underneath, but no one would know.
 

powersam

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i guess it all depends on what your conception of a cure is. for me if i have a full head of hair, no matter how i came by it as long as it didnt involve nasty side effect, that to me is a cure.

your right though seancashmere, hair multiplication doesnt treat the underlying condition but only gene therapy will do that and thats still a ways off because i'm reasonably certain they'll be working on life threatening diseases before they have a stab at hairloss
 
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