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haunted-ballroom

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thetodd said:
That's sadly true.
"I want a guy who is nice and sensitive".
Bullsh*t.
If that's the case, then why is it that nice and sensitive guys get their hearts ripped out at about three times the rate of your average playa?
There is a universal truth to life.
People often say what sounds good, but they rarely mean it...

Cause some people are "too nice". You can be a nice and sensitive person without being a pushover and still having a pair of balls. I know alot of "nice" guys who complain that women always break their heart but its not surprising the way they act around women.
 

uncomfortable man

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CCS has all the answers you seek when it comes to women.
 

Tyler_Durden

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Why do you guys always turn this sort of stuff into a pissing contest about who has the more severe hairloss and how no-one else is ever allowed suicidal or depressive thoughts about their case simply because they aren't in as bad a state as you?

It is pretty disgusting to be honest. I can't see why when a young kid of 19/20 years posts a thread like this that your first instantaneous reaction isn't to just try and bloody help him out, in whatever way possible.
This is someones son, and mother and father's world, and he posts on here in seemingly one of the worst moments in his life and half you blokes (not all, some genuinely addressed the thread, SE-Freak especially has the ability to provide an insightful and consideration contribution) can only focus on how much worse your case is then his and how he will feel when he gets there rah rah rah. Well it isn't going to f*****g matter if he doesn't make it to your stage because he chooses to take his life over it. Some of your guys are parents, how would you feel if you knew your child was having these thoughts? How would you react to there feelings? Would you compare how much worse your case is and tell them to get over it?
Or how would you feel knowing this is the advice they are getting from the internet about dealing with there problem?
It scares me into remembering the guys (and there have been multiple cases) of people threatening to kill themselves in webcam chatrooms, only to have people urge them on before finally realising they are watching a person legitimately kill themselves.

He might be a drama queen, sure, and I can admit to getting pissed off at some of the guys who come on here in screaming fits, but when a post like this comes up to me that all just becomes irrelevant. He could be a NW1 for all it matters, any time real suicidal thoughts start cropping up hair needs to take a back seat and this forum needs to start doing what it was actually designed for... helping guys with baldness.
There is always they chance that he isn't just making this up for show, and what then? Decro hasn't logged on since posting this thread but I am sure it wouldn't have helped his case in the slightest if he had.
We don't know what is going through this poor kids mind at this sort of stage at his life but just because you are behind a computer screen shouldn't give you a license to act like f*****g arseholes. If your friend addressed you in the exact same manner in real life you wouldn't sit back all smug and tell him that '48 hairs' didn't qualify for suicidal thoughts, he needs to man up and go through the things you have before he can even consider it.
We don't know what each individuals breaking point is, is all I'm saying. Sure your case may be case, sure you may have gone through worse, but it doesn't make his case any less important. If you don't think you can add anything to the thread except a snide or sarcastic comment, why not just keep it to yourself?

Decro has contributed 700 posts here, been a member for 2 years and has suffered his balding from the age of 17. Although I don't think it should take reputation within the community to receive sympathy/help, he clearly isn't just some psychotic new member who is going on a rant. He is someone that has contributed a lot to our community and you'd think that the smallest courtesy he would deserve at the time like this is an open and accepting forum, instead he has to qualify his level of balding to please the gang.
In the event that he does go on to harm himself his norwood level is going to be pretty f*****g irrelevant, whether he had a Norwood 1 or a Norwood 7, his family will still be just as devastated and a young life will still be cut severely short.

Some of you more experienced blokes, guys who have been through the worst of the worst and know exactly what he is going through really need to think back to that time. Remember how hard it was for you and remember that the last thing you probably wanted was criticism and unsympathetic ears. Guys with no-one else to turn come to a place like this, and this is the sort of help they get from people in their shoes? It just isn't right. You don't gamble with a fragile kids life.

If you do come back and read this Decro, which I'm sure we all hope you will, then send me a PM dude. I'll give you my email and we can chat. I'm always willing to talk or just listen.
You clearly have people in your life that love you and you can achieve an enormous amount in your life whether you have hair or not. There is always other options, not just in regards to hair but life in general... Don't make any rash decisions, this is the only life we have and regardless of the shitty hand we got dealt we need to make do and serve up the best we possibly can.
I've always said if things get to bad so me I'll just do some extreme, let get off to Africa and try get work saving an endangered animal or working with underprivileged children, they won't give a sh*t how much hair I have. I'm not a tree hugger or anything either, but I always thought well I've at least got a fit, healthy body and I've had far better opportunities than most, so why not try and help someone worse off? I always thought if I ended up doing something like that I would look back and say, well f*** if it wasn't for hairloss I'd probably be some self centered, cash mongering stock broker who only cared about myself... Instead hairloss gave me the motivation to actually do something worthwhile.

Keep fighting dude, every day is a new day and a new opportunity to start fresh + take action. Don't let it get you down.
PM me if you need a chat, that goes for anybody in this situation. This forum was set up for this exact reason, some guys need to really reconsider whether they actually have anything positive to add to this community anymore or whether they are simply to bitter and far gone IMO. It is easy to forget the title of this website does actually include 'support' in it.

*Apologies for the length of this post, but I just think it is a far to serious topic to be addressed lightly and I'm confident anyone else who has seen it first hand will agree*
 

Tyler_Durden

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Just something I wanted to added on the topic that I found quite inspirational from someone I consider a role model (any Australians will probably know who he is, or at least the sport he plays... But it is universal advice I think)

Read in full here;
http://www.collingwoodfc.com.au/newsfeatures/news/newsarticle/tabid/5586/newsid/79833/default.aspx
You are the light of the world. A city on a hill cannot be hidden.

Neither do people light a lamp and put it under a bowl. Instead they put it on its stand, and it gives light to everyone in the house.

In the same way, let your light shine before men

These are my favourite bible verses from the book of Matthew 5:14-16. These words hold great meaning to me and my desire is to live my life in this way.

I am a person who loves to find inspiration through many sources. I am easily inspired by the beauty of life and the infinite possibilities it has to offer. Whether it is art, song lyrics, architecture or even the sight of a mother lovingly caring for her child makes me inspired and sends shivers down my spine.

A major inspiration in my life is my family. During the mid-season break I was fortunate enough to spend a couple of days in Perth with my family.

My family is going through the toughest time of our history after losing my father just before the start of the footy season. Despite our immense pain we know we will get through this. My family’s resolve and resilience in times of adversity is what is holding us together.

It is true what they say, “It’s not how hard you fall that matters, it’s how you get up.â€￾

If you take a look throughout history at the most important and influential people you will find countless examples of how their greatest triumphs were derived from their greatest tragedy/adversity.

My sister Raquel who lives in Perth is 16 years old and is in year 11. One of her assessments in English was to write a persuasive speech which she would deliver in front of her class.

She courageously decided she would write about her experiences in relation to the passing of our Dad.

The day she had to deliver her speech she was very nervous, but still felt she could deliver a powerful speech. When her English teacher called her up to deliver her speech Raquel walked to the front of the class.

She went to open her mouth, but nothing came out. She could feel the blood rushing to her head and started to realise all the eyes in the classroom were on her waiting for her to speak. The pressure got to be too much. She broke down in tears and ran out of the class room.

Once outside the classroom she immediately called my Mum to tell her what happened. My Mum told her that she had committed to delivering the speech and that she had to honour her commitments. She also said, “Raquel what would Dad want you to do?â€￾

With the encouraging words of my Mum, Raquel gathered the courage to return to the classroom to deliver her speech. The teacher asked her if she was ready and she stood up again moving to the front of the classroom, this time with her head held high. This is the speech that she delivered entitled: Suicide

My Dad was a family man. My Dad was my hero. He was the most selfless man I had ever met and he would do absolutely anything to make my Mum, my brothers and myself happy. He would literally bend over backwards to please us, put smiles on our faces and make our lives as easy as possible.

It was sacrifice. He was constantly sacrificing his spare time and his spare money on us. Whether it be volunteering to coach all my brothers’ footy teams, picking my friends and I up from parties at ungodly hours or surprising my Mum with a new pair of shoes to show her he loved her.

Unfortunately, life got so difficult and so unbearable for my Dad. His final sacrifice was one that has altered our lives forever. It’s one that can not be changed. It’s one that’s definitely not easy to understand.

Suicide affects hundreds and thousands of Australians every year. In 1998, suicide rates reached an all time high. Since then, organisations have been established such as LifeLine to offer support to those contemplating taking their own life. With the added awareness on the issue, suicide rates have been gradually decreasing.

But I’m not here today to discuss the prevention of suicide. I’m here to talk to you all about when it comes out of thin air and hits you like a ton of bricks.

When someone takes their own life most people instantly question why. Why did they do it? Why would anyone want to end their own life? Why didn’t they think of all their other options? It’s so easy to question why. I know, because I’ve felt that way. What is harder, but far more important to do is to try to understand that person’s feelings.

Many people see suicide as a selfish option; an escape so to speak. But what about the famous quote: “never judge a man until you’ve walked a mile in his shoesâ€￾? So, let’s get rid of this ideology that it’s a ‘selfish’ and ‘evil’ option and consider the despair, the depression, the angst that the person must have been feeling for them to truly believe that their life was no longer worth living.

I can tell you that leading up to suicide the person is no longer themselves. So caught up in thinking how insignificant their life is and how much of a failure they are, despite usually being so, so far from the truth, to them, it’s all they can see.

Personally, I can’t even begin to imagine the extent of emotional pain people who choose to end their own lives must have endured. The mere thought makes me feel deep sympathy and sorrow for all those who have committed suicide.

With the damage irreversible, the decision is huge. The decision is, in fact, life or death.

Shortly after my Dad’s passing I received some advice from my older brother, Heritier. He said to me “Raquel, this year is going to be the biggest test of your life. We don’t know why Dad did it, we don’t need to. What we do know is that Dad loved us and would never do anything to hurt us. You’ve got to realize that at that very moment, at that very point in time, that was the only option that Dad felt he had. I’m sure if he could turn back time things would be very different. At least now he’s found peace.â€￾

Since that day, I’ve never questioned as to why my Dad took his life again. After all, questioning why isn’t achieving anything. What’s done is done. No one knows exactly what that person was going through.

“Whyâ€￾ is just a rhetorical question. The person who took their life is no longer there to offer you a response. So, instead of speculating all the possible reasons for their decision, I stress for you all, if you ever have to experience this ordeal, to take the time to think of that person’s feelings and have compassion and love. Then, I assure you, there will be no need to question why they did it again.


She delivered these words extremely powerfully without even getting choked up. After she finished the class rose to their feet and gave her a standing ovation.

I am so proud and amazed that someone of 16 years of age could have firstly had the courage to choose such a topic, but then be able to stand and deliver this in a powerful way.

I hope that you are all just as inspired as me.

Overcoming adversity is a choice. You and only you can decide how you handle things. Do you choose to drop your head and declare it’s all too hard? Or do you choose to raise your chin and meet your situation head on?

Again I stress look through history. Nelson Mandela was jailed for 27 years, Ludwig van Beethoven was deaf, Lance Armstrong had life threatening cancer, and the list goes on.

You may question why I chose to share such a personal thing with everyone. I direct you back to the top of the page to remind you how I desire to live my life.

“You are the light of the world, shine before all men!â€￾

Live for hope

Harry O
 

karl_h

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Counting the number of hairs that you shed in the shower is not the best way to determine if you are suffering from hair loss. If you only wash your hair a couple of times a week, you could shed a lot of hair each time that you wash it.

The best way to determine if you are losing your hair is to look at photos of your hair and to look at your hair in the mirror. Both can be painful but you will realize if you are losing it or not.
 
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