This Whole Thing Reminds Me Of Racism And Discrimination

pjhair

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I will try to start going to university parties despite the fact that Im not a student lul. However introducing myself to a woman and trying to have a conversation is very difficult task for me.

Don't worry about introducing yourself to women for now. Once you make some friends, they will introduce you to the women they know in the parties. That's how I met most of the women back in college. You will be amazed at how easy is to talk to women in your network.
 

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Don't worry about introducing yourself to women for now. Once you make some friends, they will introduce you to the women they know in the parties. That's how I met most of the women back in college. You will be amazed at how easy is to talk to women in your network.
Had some beautiful woman come to talk to me repeatedly at parties 4 years ago when I actually cared and I just couldnt maintain conversation. I considered her out of my league also.
 

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Had some beautiful woman come to talk to me repeatedly at parties 4 years ago when I actually cared and I just couldnt maintain conversation. I considered her out of my league also.

If a women was already interested in you, you shouldn't have wasted time trying to maintain a conversation. You should have just asked her to dance and then proceeded to make out with her. Conversations are for building comfort. But the women was already comfortable with you.

Unfortunately it takes experience to know all this. The experience you are depriving yourself of by choosing to stay at home and play video-games. 23 is still too young. When you are 35, you will look back at your life and regret for sitting at home in your twenties instead of going out and socializing with others. You don't realize this but you are pretty much ruining your life by not putting more effort in socializing with others. Now is a good time to go out and build a strong social network which will enable you to easily find a good women. Right now most women in your age group are unmarried and without kids. Once you are in you thirties this will change. Vast majority of my female friends from college are either married or have kids.
 

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If a women was already interested in you, you shouldn't have wasted time trying to maintain a conversation. You should have just asked her to dance and then proceeded to make out with her. Conversations are for building comfort. But the women was already comfortable with you.

Unfortunately it takes experience to know all this. The experience you are depriving yourself of by choosing to stay at home and play video-games. 23 is still too young. When you are 35, you will look back at your life and regret for sitting at home in your twenties instead of going out and socializing with others. You don't realize this but you are pretty much ruining your life by not putting more effort in socializing with others. Now is a good time to go out and build a strong social network which will enable you to easily find a good women. Right now most women in your age group are unmarried and without kids. Once you are in you thirties this will change. Vast majority of my female friends from college are either married or have kids.
Yes I realize this and dont want to live in regret but dancing / making out in parties is not something that I do I consider it cringy.
 

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If a women was already interested in you, you shouldn't have wasted time trying to maintain a conversation. You should have just asked her to dance and then proceeded to make out with her. Conversations are for building comfort. But the women was already comfortable with you.

Unfortunately it takes experience to know all this. The experience you are depriving yourself of by choosing to stay at home and play video-games. 23 is still too young. When you are 35, you will look back at your life and regret for sitting at home in your twenties instead of going out and socializing with others. You don't realize this but you are pretty much ruining your life by not putting more effort in socializing with others. Now is a good time to go out and build a strong social network which will enable you to easily find a good women. Right now most women in your age group are unmarried and without kids. Once you are in you thirties this will change. Vast majority of my female friends from college are either married or have kids.
British men don't dance ;)
 

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Yes I realize this and dont want to live in regret but dancing / making out in parties is not something that I do I consider it cringy.

British men don't dance ;)

Dancing and making out is quite common in American college parties hence I recommended it. But that's irrelevant. The point is that you should make your move and express interest when a women has already shown interest in you. How you express your interest depends on you and the cultural norms of the place you live.
 

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Only if you are at least average-looking and have hair. Otherwise, staying at home is a sensible solution. I regret every single time I bothered going out or trying socializing with others, especially women. Utterly useless, humiliating and painful.

It's not that bad here in the US. If you are ugly, women will not date you but they wouldn't humiliate you. You will be treated as a human being and respected by people around you.
 

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Dancing and making out is quite common in American college parties hence I recommended it. But that's irrelevant. The point is that you should make your move and express interest when a women has already shown interest in you. How you express your interest depends on you and the cultural norms of the place you live.
I dont get it what should the "move" be ?
 

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I don't know what part of the US are you referring to but that is simply not true from what I have seen. I have been living here for 12 years and never encountered racial discrimination from Americans.

Well I definitely have. It's not always out in the open.

For example, some people won't date or marry outside their race.

One time I lived with home owners who wouldn't let someone who was African
American live in their house.

Happens all the time. It's just not out in the open.
 

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Yeah thanks, I don't live in the U.S., I live in a shithole where looks are everything, and by the time I'll be able to leave my 20s will be but a distant memories. LOL I'm gonna be 25 soon, so f*****g old already, but it makes no difference. Young or old, I'm fucked anyway.

Wow... 25... that's old.
 

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Yeah thanks, I don't live in the U.S., I live in a shithole where looks are everything, and by the time I'll be able to leave my 20s will be but a distant memories. LOL I'm gonna be 25 soon, so f*****g old already, but it makes no difference. Young or old, I'm fucked anyway.
I wish Italian parties were really like this:


I wonder if you could say this is a critique of Italian culture in some way
 

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Both attitudes are perfectly understandable.

If I were a fullhead I would be upset by the presence of balding young guys around me. They look miserable. I'm balding myself and I can't stand looking at the misery of other balding people. This should be understood and accepted because bald is ugly for me.

Also, it's normal for natives to be upset by the presence of foreigners and not all will accept their presence. Many whites can't stand the company of niggers and brown south asians, mainly because of their culture and looks. It's perfectly understandable and you should be tolerant of this. If I worked in a 95% African company, I would accept that the majority of African colleagues would dislike my Mediterranean attitude and appearance.

tl;dr accept things and stop trying to tell people what to think. Some things can change only very slowly and one of these is attitudes towards foreigners
blatant racism with the "********" term dude. dislike.

and seriously? miserable around bald guys? wtf
 

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Those people who laugh about and critise how you deal with hair loss is no different from those people who think they are not racist but would subconsciously therefore behaviourally avoid minorities just because they are different.

I am not racist. I would have sex with any woman of any race as long as she is for the most part good looking.
 

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People think the problem was me because if most local people are cold to me, it must be because I'm hideous and have bad personality. I further explained it was not just me who got the cold shoulders it was all minorities and foreigners.

We haven't interacted much so I am not sure where you are located. But where I am from if you are a fairly good looking woman, most guys I know wouldn't give you the cold shoulder at all.
 

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Americans tend to stick together

I don't. I have hung out with all. Nerds, athletes, white, black, hispanic, asian, middle eastern. I honestly don't really give a sh*t where somebody is from. Only criteria is to not be an a**h** or a complete low life.
 

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I have always lived in areas predominately hispanic and most hispanics behave the same way David described above.

This is true though. But I have found this to be the case for most races. They just tend to for the most part stick together. Sure they are exceptions to the rule, but races for the most part tend to isolate themselves. I have seen this first hand being half white, half hispanic, but that's a different topic for a different forum.
 

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Also, it's normal for natives to be upset by the presence of foreigners and not all will accept their presence. Many whites can't stand the company of niggers and brown south asians, mainly because of their culture and looks. It's perfectly understandable and you should be tolerant of this.

Exodus must have "disliked" this comment because of the racism.
 
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