Just try it and stop making excuses. An SSRI is not going to suck your dick. You're calling yourself an incel when you have 15 women on tinder and 4 women on this forum who want to f*** you? The incel stands for involuntary and this is 100% your choice.
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Just try it and stop making excuses. An SSRI is not going to suck your dick. You're calling yourself an incel when you have 15 women on tinder and 4 women on this forum who want to f*** you? The incel stands for involuntary and this is 100% your choice.
At least you have never been called "self-centered psychopath" by your own mother in front of the entire family.
Yep, many of us here have some major issues, no doubt.
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My dad called me a useless piece of sh*t and told me as far as he's concerned I'm dead to him. Try that.
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My date seems to be confirmed. But it seems fishy. She agreed to the meeting time and type of cuisine before I even mentioned the location. What if it had been very far from her workplace? It's been a few weeks since we exchanged phone numbers and we've barely exchanged messages because she doesn't like texting. She has tried to call me a few times but missed me. Anyway, I feel like I'm going to get canceled or I'm being set up. What do you think?
the last thing you need is an ssri. You're really gonna have to push yourself if you wanna get out of this imaginary rock bottom you've hit.
You have to be ok with getting out of your comfort zone and making yourself uncomfortable for a bit, that is the only way you'll be able to leave your house and do the stuff you wanna do.
Take this from someone who had ADD meds take me from the most outgoing and hyper kid in highschool to one of shyest within a year. I was underage at the time and my mom was spreading it into my fkn breakfast. After i realized what she was doing i was basically almost completely depressed. social anxiety/hard time keeping eye contact etc. i pushed myself, got off the meds and cured myself within 3-4 months.
Giving up and accepting defeat and thinking you're too far gone is not a viable option.
Wtf do you even have to lose since you think so low of yourself.
If you can take any advice from me, id say everyday put yourself in a situation that would make you uncomfortable and take it further each and every day. For example, your goal for today is to ask anyone walking down the street what time it is, and then greet them with a smile, look them in the eyes and say thank you. Aim a little higher everyday. Babysteps, but its almost guaranteed to work if you keep pushing yourself man.
You have a whole support group here to help make it easier man, you actually have so much potential and dont realize it.
That's a great thing about this site, unlike those hypersensitive morons at Twitter.
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Call her back if you get a missed call. Its not rocket science.
As for the not caring what restaurant you eat: it doesn't mean anything. If it was me then I wouldn't care we went out to eat because I am not going out to try fancy foods - I'm going out to meet someone and hopefully hit it off with them.
Guys like baldhurt have been suffering from the consequences of having a rough childhood. No matter how good they are, they will always feel inferior due to harsh experiences as a child. It's something extremely hard to overcome. Baldhurt is better looking than me now. But I don't suffer from near as much insecurity. Throughout my child and until the age of 27 when I was hit by hair-loss, I was known as a very good looking guy. I always received compliments from women and men around me and there was no shortage of women willing to date me. As a result I was always in a very high confidence state. That feeling still carries over even when my looks have gone down and I don't really get any matches on Tinder. There is no man in the world who I look at and feel like "I want to look like him". Absolutely none. I just want to look like I did when I was NW1. So despite my recent failures and waning looks, I still can't get out of the mental state that was shaped by my experiences growing up. I think the same principle applies to baldhurts. Despite his success with women, he is still struggling to get over his childhood.
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I did, but I missed her too. After missing her once, I couldn't keep trying. It would be try-hard. But, I said 'Is [] o'clock good for you' and she said that it was fine without even asking where we were meeting. Isn't that strange? Also, she seems to have the paid version of the app. Does that mean that she can see my success rate with other ladies and total messages sent etc.?
I'm going to prepare for it properly, but the fact is that something always feels wrong when a lady agrees to meet me. This one feels even more wrong.
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In psychology, that is what is called your "inner child". Maybe people revert back to it when they are triggered by events similar to those traumatic events as a child.
PJ, you don't know how lucky you are to be able to have thoughts where you don't need to compare yourself to any other male. My head is full of those thoughts and it drives me bonkers. I can suppress them but they still filter in my head like horrible white noise. I think maybe BH has the similar thing going on as well as Shook. People like you and Wolf Pack just have been lucky enough to never encounter those thoughts. I had an abusive childhood too with bullying like BH so I know how he I thinks. That "inner child" is a b**ch to get rid of.
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I am sorry to hear about your struggles. Having rough child hood is extremely damaging to ones psyche. I have a friend who had a rough child hood and was regularly beaten, humiliated and called ugly by his step dad. That completely destroyed his confidence and now even when he gets good looking women, he looks at himself as some kind of loser. I constantly try to tell him that he is a tall, good looking and successful guy but he just doesn't believe it. I don't think he will ever get over it. It's like his brain has now been molded a certain way and nothing will ever change that.
I have another friend who didn't exactly have a rough childhood but was never considered handsome growing up. He is handsome now. He is tall, NW1 with really good body. I have noticed that he needs constant success and validation from women to be in a confident mental state. As soon as a women rejects him, his confidence plummets and he deflates like a balloon. In college he used to always go for women way below his level in looks. I used to ask him why he does that, he would tell me, "because that's all I can get". Even when good looking women would hit on him, he would think that they are just messing around or joking. Needless to say that due to his low self esteem, he missed out on several good looking and amazing women. Low self esteem has a huge opportunity cost.
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@Baldhurts reminds me of Patrick O'Sullivan.
O'Sullivan was a pretty damn good hockey player, he even made the NHL, and was an effective player there, but he couldn't stay there as he was somewhat of a head case. There were issues with his father who was apparently so psychotic that he even trolled Hockey's Future message boards.
O'Sullivan was a pretty damn good hockey player, he even made the NHL, and was an effective player there, but he couldn't stay there as he was somewhat of a head case. There were issues with his father who was apparently so psychotic that he even trolled Hockey's Future message boards.
i wouldnt overthink it, im pretty sure her priority is getting to know you, and not whats gonna be on the menu that night.
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Also, if you've been told you have an attractive voice before id definitely consider trying to call her before you meet her. I actually encourage you to call her considering you dont have any solidified plans, id call her up and say, ive realized we havent decided where we were going, then proceed to tell her what you have planned. THE LAST THING you're gonna wanna do is ask her what SHE wants to do.
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I am planning on running a cycle of phenibut, and GABA.
If I can minimize the effects, I can live with them.
My whole ordeal is working passed my fears, and once they are eliminated then I know my true potential, and where I stand.
I am not looking to become a walking pharmacy on SSRI, and anxiety medication if I can help it.
OTC supplements, and counselling before medications.
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If @Baldhurts is actually the guy on his avatar, there is no problem in the looks department.
Just push slowly to do more and more stuff outside of your flat. Your time will come.
Just push slowly to do more and more stuff outside of your flat. Your time will come.
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His problems are not his looks but his anxiety, and depression.
people who don't have anxiety will never understand this. you know type, guys who always talk to women, and everyone at the gym, grocery store and bars with average looks. Contesting to there abilities, but can never relate to someone who lives behind irrational fear, and is scared and anxious for no reason.
His NW2 is not the reason why he feels this way about himself.
This is a real issue. I face this also
His problems are not his looks but his anxiety, and depression.
people who don't have anxiety will never understand this. you know type, guys who always talk to women, and everyone at the gym, grocery store and bars with average looks. Contesting to there abilities, but can never relate to someone who lives behind irrational fear, and is scared and anxious for no reason.
His NW2 is not the reason why he feels this way about himself.
This is a real issue. I face this also
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Off topic but I just saw this on another forum and I felt compelled to share:
Hat Prisoners Beware.
-Be at club
-Chicks myron
-Bouncer suddenly notices that I didn't take my hat off like I had promised to
-'Hey I told you you have to take your hat off'
-'Make me phaggot'
-He makes me
-Everyone points and laughs at my friar tuck hair
-Girls I was with start violently vomiting
-Guys rolling on the floor pointing and laughing, look like they are about to get heart attacks
-People start throwing trash at me
-Music stops
-Dj starts yelling through mic 'friar tuck we got friar tuck over here hahaha'
-I pass out
Hat Prisoners Beware.
-Be at club
-Chicks myron
-Bouncer suddenly notices that I didn't take my hat off like I had promised to
-'Hey I told you you have to take your hat off'
-'Make me phaggot'
-He makes me
-Everyone points and laughs at my friar tuck hair
-Girls I was with start violently vomiting
-Guys rolling on the floor pointing and laughing, look like they are about to get heart attacks
-People start throwing trash at me
-Music stops
-Dj starts yelling through mic 'friar tuck we got friar tuck over here hahaha'
-I pass out
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I want to believe all of this, it gives me a good excuse to never leave the house.
the only experiences ive had with wearing a hat in a club is a girl dancing on a table taking it off my head, this was before i had any noticeable hairloss. Im sure my reaction would be 100% completely different if that were to happen now, that was like 4 years ago, id never be stupid enough to wear a hat in a club now. Plus i love club lighting, makes me full like a full head with some minor recession again.
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