To The Late 30's+ Aged Men On This Forum: Why?

[DBW]

Don't get me wrong: I understand hairloss is an extremely depressing thing to go through at any age, but have any of you guys ever thought that you might lack a little perspective? As a 20 year old NW6 I struggle to understand what guys like Nameless (though I believe he's no longer with us) are complaining about. 45 year old NW3's shrieking about how perky, college-age sorority sisters are no longer riding their dicks. For goodness sake. What you're suffering from isn't even male pattern baldness - with the exception of maybe around 5-10% of males, pretty much everyone's hairline receeds to that level as they get older, just like everyone's hair thins with age. It seems to me that what a lot of you older guys are really lamenting is merely the aging process itself - nothing wrong with that, nobody likes growing old and I hope science will one day be able to cure it. I won't judge you guys as I've haven't walked in your shoes but surely an NW3 in your late 30's, 40's, even a serviceably thick NW3.5, really isn't the end of the world? Apologies for blunt nature of this post: I'm not saying you guys don't have valid reasons to complain, I just wonder whether the less-than-perfect-hair-at-a-middle-age ante is quite as high as some people have made it out to be?

(Edited for clarity )

 

[Afro_Vacancy]

I'm 32, nearly 33, and single. I've almost always been single and have had a very hard time attracting women. My hairline is somewhat receded. I don't want it to recede more as I'm at best average looking, so I need every advantage I can get.

I can lose weight and gain muscle and so on. But if I lose my hair, it's one step forward and one step back. All that effort, and I get one step forward and one step back. Lateral move. f*** that. Again: I need all the help I can get.

I'm not competing for 19 year-old girls. I think I have virtually no chance with them, even if I looksmaxed I wouldn't know how. But I'm competing for women aged 27-35, approximately, and believe me it's not a f*****g cakewalk.

ETA: You are in your early 20s. I recommend you do everything possible to looksmax now. It's easier when you're younger, your body is more adaptive.

 

[hellouser]

Baldness matters at any age. That's why.

 

[CopeForLife]

Today I was going for a morning coffee.

I saw an 70 years old man with buzzed NW5 grey hair from the distance.

The moment when we came closer to each other I realised he is 35-40 years at max.

 

[oye_rg]

Short Version: Because it is a social taboo, even for 40 or 50 year olds.

Long Version:

I am 39. I lost my hear since the 20's eventually losing about 1 Norwood every couple of years in my 30's. I have a lovely family and my life is good. I never cared for my hair all these years. TBH I also did not believe anything can grow hair and I did not want an hair transplant.
I hopped on to treatment after meeting my elder brother after more than a decade who is on treatment.
I am on treatment since about 1.5 years and have been lucky to respond such that I am at about NW3 slight diffuse and still improving.

How getting from NW6 to NW3 has affected me:
- I now like to go out, socialise and meet people.
- My personality changed temporarily after I started looking good. I became slightly arrogant (over-confident). I am now fixing that.
- My partner and kids love me same, everything is same except she is bit worried if I talk about other women or start getting over friendly
- Women and girls do not look at me like I am a perv if they catch me looking at them
- I approach and talk to women
- I am motivated to keep healthy and stay fit liek going to the gym regularly. Earlier I was not motivated as I knew that would be in vain and I would not look good anyway
- I take care of my hair much more...every damn signle strand . Its like a treasure returned.
- I groom, buy nice clothes, etc
- I like my photos. I like when someone takes my photos and sends them around.
And finally...
- I am thinking of getting on facebook

 

[N003]

Short Version: Because it is a social taboo, even for 40 or 50 year olds.

Long Version:

I am 39. I lost my hear since the 20's eventually losing about 1 Norwood every couple of years in my 30's. I have a lovely family and my life is good. I never cared for my hair all these years. TBH I also did not believe anything can grow hair and I did not want an hair transplant.
I hopped on to treatment after meeting my elder brother after more than a decade who is on treatment.
I am on treatment since about 1.5 years and have been lucky to respond such that I am at about NW3 slight diffuse and still improving.

How getting from NW6 to NW3 has affected me:
- I now like to go out, socialise and meet people.
- My personality changed temporarily after I started looking good. I became slightly arrogant (over-confident). I am now fixing that.
- My partner and kids love me same, everything is same except she is bit worried if I talk about other women or start getting over friendly
- Women and girls do not look at me like I am a perv if they catch me looking at them
- I approach and talk to women
- I am motivated to keep healthy and stay fit liek going to the gym regularly. Earlier I was not motivated as I knew that would be in vain and I would not look good anyway
- I take care of my hair much more...every damn signle strand . Its like a treasure returned.
- I groom, buy nice clothes, etc
- I like my photos. I like when someone takes my photos and sends them around.
And finally...
- I am thinking of getting on facebook

I call it "midlife crisis"

 

[scorpiolove]

Hairloss is a debilitating diesease at any age, it's hope for a better day which keeps us alive,I think hairloss is like a cancer, you can die from the effects of it, in extreme cases, some people commit suicide over hairloss.

 

[tellersquill]

Hmmm hair loss effects everyone but I will admit it is way worse for some of these kids who have it.

I'm not quite 30 but even I'm glad that my hair loss wasn't really noticeable until the past few years because it has allowed me to live a healthy youth (should still have a good thirties!). So I do admit its worse for you young guys.

However, everybody wants to look good. Nobody wants to feel ugly. People still date and have sex when they get older and hence want to look okay doing. Presuming that vanity is only important to young people is a huge mistake. It still matters but possible a little less.

 

[That Guy]

Older men who are good looking (NW1 is a must here) often date younger women. Not to mention, there are still many hot women out there at age 30 - 45. It's not like women stop being attractive automatically after age 25.

It's the one sexual thing in our society that I feel is still unjustly criticized: two consenting adults are shamed because of an age difference. Most of the women I find attractive and wound up dating and/or screwing are older than me. For example, when I was in college a few years back, I was 21 where I met this 29 year old woman. It didn't last, sadly, and while nearly everyone was like "Dude! She's almost thirty!" it was usually said with a "high five" sort of attitude.

If a 32 year old man were to be dating a 24 year old woman: "Ewww girl, he's so much older than you — creepy!"

 

[tellersquill]

People don't care about the age gap. I'm 29 and my ex was 21 and nobody batted an eyelid. I guess if its more than ten years people may say something

 

[Hangin'on Hair]

Oh boy here we go with the whole age thing again. This is the one subject that gets to me.
I remember a member here, probably early twenties, complaining that he looks like a guy in his early thirties because of his hair. What the f***! Early 30's isn't old. You don't look old in your early 30's. You don't look much different in your 30's than you do when you're in your mid 20's. As long as you take care of yourself.

Your face isn't going to morph into some old geezer face as soon as you hit 30 or even 40.
Unless you're constantly eating junk and smoking like an idiot.

I'm gonna be 41 in november and I look good for my age. I have c*** blocked plenty of guys in their early to mid 20's. Not intentionally. It's just happened a number of times when I hit the bars. I hate to sound like a braggart. Last year at age 39, I went to a local bar. I sat at the bar waiting for a drink and a really attractive little lady came up and just started hitting on me. She wasn't fall over drunk or anything so she knew what she was doing.
She asked my age I told her. She didn't believe me. I asked her age...20!
Im pretty much old enough to be her dad. And she asked me to kiss her right then and there.
Twas a little akward. But it is an ego boost. Not gonna lie.

And yes I am suffering male pattern baldness. My temples are way back but my frontal hairline hasn't budged much. Crown is very thinned out. But I have length. So I can cover.
But there are really bad days. And it gets me down. Looks fuckin awful when wet!
But as long as I can still attract ladies, young and old, Im gonna keep at it.
And someone whose in their 30's dating a 24 yr old girl isn't creepy like someone earlier posted.
Actually, a lot of the younger ladies like the guys who are a bit older. Not all girls want to be with the immature awkward frat boy type.

So lets stop with the age card shall we. The title of this thread is ridiculous!
And remember.....
Hairloss is a b**ch at any age.
Your youth isn't over when you hit the age of 30. You'll see when you get there.
Take care of yourself. Excercise, don't smoke and eat clean.
All we can do in this shitty moment of our lives, is to be the best that we can be.

 

[DBW]

Oh boy here we go with the whole age thing again. This is the one subject that gets to me.
I remember a member here, probably early twenties, complaining that he looks like a guy in his early thirties because of his hair. What the f***! Early 30's isn't old. You don't look old in your early 30's. You don't look much different in your 30's than you do when you're in your mid 20's. As long as you take care of yourself.

Your face isn't going to morph into some old geezer face as soon as you hit 30 or even 40.
Unless you're constantly eating junk and smoking like an idiot.

I'm gonna be 41 in november and I look good for my age. I have c*** blocked plenty of guys in their early to mid 20's. Not intentionally. It's just happened a number of times when I hit the bars. I hate to sound like a braggart. Last year at age 39, I went to a local bar. I sat at the bar waiting for a drink and a really attractive little lady came up and just started hitting on me. She wasn't fall over drunk or anything so she knew what she was doing.
She asked my age I told her. She didn't believe me. I asked her age...20!
Im pretty much old enough to be her dad. And she asked me to kiss her right then and there.
Twas a little akward. But it is an ego boost. Not gonna lie.

And yes I am suffering male pattern baldness. My temples are way back but my frontal hairline hasn't budged much. Crown is very thinned out. But I have length. So I can cover.
But there are really bad days. And it gets me down. Looks fuckin awful when wet!
But as long as I can still attract ladies, young and old, Im gonna keep at it.
And someone whose in their 30's dating a 24 yr old girl isn't creepy like someone earlier posted.
Actually, a lot of the younger ladies like the guys who are a bit older. Not all girls want to be with the immature awkward frat boy type.

So lets stop with the age card shall we. The title of this thread is ridiculous!
And remember.....
Hairloss is a b**ch at any age.
Your youth isn't over when you hit the age of 30. You'll see when you get there.
Take care of yourself. Excercise, don't smoke and eat clean.
All we can do in this shitty moment of our lives, is to be the best that we can be.

Oh boy here we go with the whole age thing again. This is the one subject that gets to me.
I remember a member here, probably early twenties, complaining that he looks like a guy in his early thirties because of his hair. What the f***! Early 30's isn't old. You don't look old in your early 30's. You don't look much different in your 30's than you do when you're in your mid 20's. As long as you take care of yourself.

Your face isn't going to morph into some old geezer face as soon as you hit 30 or even 40.
Unless you're constantly eating junk and smoking like an idiot.

I'm gonna be 41 in november and I look good for my age. I have c*** blocked plenty of guys in their early to mid 20's. Not intentionally. It's just happened a number of times when I hit the bars. I hate to sound like a braggart. Last year at age 39, I went to a local bar. I sat at the bar waiting for a drink and a really attractive little lady came up and just started hitting on me. She wasn't fall over drunk or anything so she knew what she was doing.
She asked my age I told her. She didn't believe me. I asked her age...20!
Im pretty much old enough to be her dad. And she asked me to kiss her right then and there.
Twas a little akward. But it is an ego boost. Not gonna lie.

And yes I am suffering male pattern baldness. My temples are way back but my frontal hairline hasn't budged much. Crown is very thinned out. But I have length. So I can cover.
But there are really bad days. And it gets me down. Looks fuckin awful when wet!
But as long as I can still attract ladies, young and old, Im gonna keep at it.
And someone whose in their 30's dating a 24 yr old girl isn't creepy like someone earlier posted.
Actually, a lot of the younger ladies like the guys who are a bit older. Not all girls want to be with the immature awkward frat boy type.

So lets stop with the age card shall we. The title of this thread is ridiculous!
And remember.....
Hairloss is a b**ch at any age.
Your youth isn't over when you hit the age of 30. You'll see when you get there.
Take care of yourself. Excercise, don't smoke and eat clean.
All we can do in this shitty moment of our lives, is to be the best that we can be.

I take your points. Prior to seeing all these responses, I honestly had no idea how invested many of you older guys were in your appearances still. H-hair, I respect all the effort you put in to maintaining yourself, but I'd be lying if I didn't find it a little depressing - so much for all the bull mum spun me about looks ceasing to matter past a certain age! I'm curious though (and this is in no way intended as an insult), but have your tastes not really changed at all mentally? I mean, bar-hopping for 20 year olds at 40? I think you're being a bit hard on the guy in his early 20's. There's no doubt that baldness is a lot harder to deal with when it hits at such an abnormally young age. For one thing, there's no one around you going through a similar experience and whilst I appreciate balding older guys may be pissed off at no longer being able to have a shot with a girl who is 15 or so years their junior, for a guy who's gone bald as a kid, they're missing out on the opportunity to interact properly with these young girls (their peers) for ever - unlike the guys who lose their hair later in life, they never even get a chance. That early 20 something guy is just asking to be normal, much older guys are effectively asking to be privileged.

P.s. you are being a braggart

 

[DBW]

Baldness matters at any age. That's why.

But does it really matter THAT much when you're 40 plus?

 

[That Guy]

But does it really matter THAT much when you're 40 plus?

Yes. Everyone should be able to feel satisfied with their appearance at any age.

If you get old, nothing can stop you from wearing the clothes you like, make-up, etc. but hairloss takes away something completely.

 

[Hangin'on Hair]

but have your tastes not really changed at all mentally? I mean, bar-hopping for 20 year olds at 40.

I don't go bar hopping to pick up 20 yr olds. I'm single, no kids no wife and I like it that way.
I have been in relationships before. But I just like the bachelor life and I like my space.
I go to the bar to enjoy myself. Being approached by girls is something that happens sometimes. Not all the time!
And I rarely approach girls. I am a pretty shy guy. I just go out for a few drinks and to be social, being that I live a pretty quiet life when Im at home.
I'm not the douchy guy who struts around the bar getting all up in the ladies faces annoying the sh*t out of them like most of the 20 somethings I see doing.

As for the younger men losing their hair. Yes. f*****g terrible. Especially if they are in norwood 6 territory.
Just the title of your thread is a little offensive to the older boys like myself. You're saying why bother?
Well because it's hairloss. And at any age, it's a terrible thing to deal with. Just because Im 40 now doesn't mean that I can say "well Im old now, so who cares" That's not the way it is and that's what I want the younger people to realise. Everyone in their 20's thinks anything past 30 is old age. Well its not. I actually feel better and healthier now than I did when in my 20's.
And sometimes I think I look better too.

 

[hellouser]

But does it really matter THAT much when you're 40 plus?

Yes, people are shallow and vain all throughout their lives. Wait a while, you'll see.

 

[Hangin'on Hair]

But does it really matter THAT much when you're 40 plus?

Why wouldn't it???

 

[deraj]

I guess if something really bothers you, it doesn't matter what age you are; It is, of course, perfectly possible for a 40 year old to be as traumatised by hair loss as a 20 year old, and that's understandable. However, if they surveyed every bald man in the world, I'd be willing to bet a far higher percentage of "those bothered about baldness" exists in those between 18-25 than in over 40's

 

[samantha3333]

2 years ago when I was 21, I had a huge crush on my then 45 yo mentor. He didn't age well due to his demanding career. His hair was thinning but he was still a NW2 or even NW1 as judging from his old pic, he always had a big forehead. I don't think I'd be as attracted to him if he was a NW5+. Maybe I would be as i was more drawn to his achievements and sense of humour. But there was something about his appearance that really drew me to him too.

Hair really determines how you look, especially if you are one of those people who become a wrinkly bastard before the age of 50. Having a young chick subtly flirt with you when you are old(er) is a huge confidence booster. Doesn't mean these older guys all want to tap a 20 yo.

 

[kj6723]

ETA: You are in your early 20s. I recommend you do everything possible to looksmax now. It's easier when you're younger, your body is more adaptive.

It's definitely better to maintain youth if you can. Getting it back once it's gone is difficult and in some ways impossible