Thank God. I almost drowned in the infamous "If it was a scam, why would he do X" fallacy. Ususally used by people whose hope is stronger than their logic, or young men that are new on this forum.
Topical Zinc Thymulin For The Treatments Of Androgenetic Alopecia
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Thank God. I almost drowned in the infamous "If it was a scam, why would he do X" fallacy. Ususally used by people whose hope is stronger than their logic, or young men that are new on this forum.
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LOL
alternatively, to increase the quantity of hair in a subject that does not suffer from hair loss.
alternatively, to increase the quantity of hair in a subject that does not suffer from hair loss.
alternatively, to increase the quantity of hair in a subject that does not suffer from hair loss.
This is it, we reached bottom of the pit
inb4 new Halloween natural cosplays for non balding people :
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I see you've been around since 2010 and there's no doubt you've seen your fair share of scams. Basically everything that isn't finasteride or min has been a scam or failed. I can see where the cynicism stems from. It's fair to say we can agree to disagree, so lets just wait and see how this pans out then.
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https://patents.google.com/patent/WO2017210726A1/en
The present invention provides a method of activating inactive hair follicles comprising administering a composition comprising an effective amount of zinc thymulin to a subject. The method generates new hair growth and may be used to treat or prevent hair loss or, alternatively, to increase the quantity of hair in a subject that does not suffer from hair loss.
you forgot some, I got you
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Yeah yeah i know, it might get us 10-50 hairs, but i was reffering to the last sentence
WHY WOULD ANYONE WANT MORE HAIR THAN A FULL NATURAL DENSITY ?? Will NW0 become a balding stage ??
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From some of the stuff ive seen on the bodybuilding forums where people use these peptides for injury recovery, not only did some regrow hair on their head but it also made their beards and bodyhair darker and thicker. These people were injecting it at the site of an injury but it does have a systemic effect. That's my guess to what that means
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Link?
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https://www.reddit.com/r/steroids/comments/5p87sl/tb500_mass_spec_confirmed_pure_and_results/
Note - tb500 is not a steroid its a peptide (huge difference). This is just the section of reddit this was posted in.
Starting to get excited about this again. More than willing to try at that price, but not sure how effective it will be for me. I've been losing way too much hair and this seems like more for growth than maintenance. Growth would be great but I'm afraid I'm losing at too rapid of a rate for a growth stimulant to provide visual results.
Sanchez1234
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Does dr Vickers have a theory why some people respond and some not?
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Words are cheap, anyone can spout about “regrowth”.. where’s the photographic evidence?
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I was going to try this stuff but i have a thyroid disorder and can't risk it
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immortalhair.forumandco.com/t11757-injecting-tb-500-thymosin-beta-4-subq-regrew-some-of-my-hair-until-i-stopped-use-what-does-this-tell-me-about-whats-causing-my-male pattern baldness-pics
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Mate, I did not want to point fingers but you made me. The following paragraph is not to be understood as retribution but a simple advice for gullible, vulnerable baldies like me. I have empathy because I am one of them, unlike Zen’s position, mine is completely devoid of the possibility to create a profit for anybody.
I wanted this sh*t to be effective I really did, but as a academic with a decent understanding of statistics and analytics I had to force myself to read through it again. Not with my heart but utilizing pure ratio. It was painful because oh boy did this paper and these pictures disappoint.
I outlined the reasons very clearly in my earlier post. All I ask from anybody, is to read through it and ask himself if any reasonable objections to the points I raised have been made so far. Be it from Dr. Vickers, Georgie or Zen.
It only gets uglier from here.
I hate saying it, but in my eyes Zen and Georgie enact as sales people in disguise...call it shilling...call it guerilla marketing what have you.Read through the early posts of this thread and ask yourself if they are not using every trick in the book to inspire a group purchase, practically enacting as a snake oil merchant. Ask yourself if there is one better person to sell you that snake oil than a mildly thinning stacey with bdd, who blogs about her feelings constantly pics included, but is absent from the forum for days once I call her out. Ask yourself if the sudden price drop is not a result of them probing the appropriate price elasticity. Ask yourself if a normal member would be so invested in instigating a global group purchase , if it is a coincidence that they are both Australian and that they joined the forum at a similiar time.
Friend, be desperate but don’t be a f*****g retard.
alscarmuzza
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Outside of the scam discussion. The patent cites some prior work in this area. Might be worth reading.
Non-Patent Citations (5)
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FENTON, D. A. ET AL.: "Plasma Thymulin in Alopecia Areata", JOURNAL OF NEUROIMMUNOLOGY, vol. 35, no. supp. 1, 1991, pages 40, XP027441198 *
LANGAN, D. ET AL.: "Thymic Peptides Stimulate Hair Follicle Pigmentation and Protract the Onset of Catagen", JOURNAL OF INVESTIGATIVE DERMATOLOGY, vol. 129, no. 2, 2009, pages s43 *
MEIER, N. ET AL.: "Thymic Peptides Differentially Modulate Human Hair Follicle Growth", JOURNAL OF INVESTIGATIVE DERMATOLOGY, vol. 132, no. issue 5, 2012, pages 1516 - 1519, XP055443689 *
SAHA, A. R. ET AL.: "Zinc induces thymulin secretion from human thymic epithelial cells In vitro and augments splenocyte and thymocyte responses In vivo", INTERNATIONAL JOURNAL OF IMMUNOPHARMACOLOGY, vol. 17, no. 9, 1995, pages 729 - 733, XP055443684 *
SOSNE, G. ET AL.: "Biological activities of thymosin beta4 defined by active sites in short peptide sequences", THE FASEB JOURNAL, vol. 24, no. 7, 2010, pages 2144 - 2151, XP055443691 *
Non-Patent Citations (5)
Title
FENTON, D. A. ET AL.: "Plasma Thymulin in Alopecia Areata", JOURNAL OF NEUROIMMUNOLOGY, vol. 35, no. supp. 1, 1991, pages 40, XP027441198 *
LANGAN, D. ET AL.: "Thymic Peptides Stimulate Hair Follicle Pigmentation and Protract the Onset of Catagen", JOURNAL OF INVESTIGATIVE DERMATOLOGY, vol. 129, no. 2, 2009, pages s43 *
MEIER, N. ET AL.: "Thymic Peptides Differentially Modulate Human Hair Follicle Growth", JOURNAL OF INVESTIGATIVE DERMATOLOGY, vol. 132, no. issue 5, 2012, pages 1516 - 1519, XP055443689 *
SAHA, A. R. ET AL.: "Zinc induces thymulin secretion from human thymic epithelial cells In vitro and augments splenocyte and thymocyte responses In vivo", INTERNATIONAL JOURNAL OF IMMUNOPHARMACOLOGY, vol. 17, no. 9, 1995, pages 729 - 733, XP055443684 *
SOSNE, G. ET AL.: "Biological activities of thymosin beta4 defined by active sites in short peptide sequences", THE FASEB JOURNAL, vol. 24, no. 7, 2010, pages 2144 - 2151, XP055443691 *
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Honestly I tried being useful, pointing out logical reasons why this should work, giving anecdotal evidence of people that say it works for them, and I get called a shill and a f*****g Retard. So f*** it, I’ll keep the updates to myself since obviously they aren’t welcome on this board. You can thank @disfiguredyoungman for that.
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They are welcome bro, I follow all of your posts and I think they’re actually very useful and you’re one of the more knowledgable members on this board.
A healthy dose of skepticism is always welcomed as well.
You guys seem to disagree on something which fine, to each his own.
I just wanted you to know that I find your posts insightful and helpful regardless whether this treatment is legit or not.
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Posting here just isn’t worth the frustration anymore, I get nothing out of it except for fingers being pointed at me. If you want updates, pm me.
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f*** the haters. We can't let this whole board fall apart just because some people have an attitude. I still wanna grow some f*****g hair.
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I'd love updates. Hopefully one person doesn't ruin at all. You are always welcome to share; that's what this community is all about.