Uncomfortable: do you have any resentment towards the ancestors who gave you this?

[Agustin Araujo]

No, I do not have any resentment towards my ancestors for passing baldness down to me. Most men experience male pattern baldness some time through out life. It runs on both sides of my family, so it's no surprise to me that I got it. There's also graying on both sides which I am experiencing too, and is catching up quick. This is no one's fault, it is what has happened.

There is a lot of truth in this.
I discovered this when my hair loss first became noticeable.
The response I got from people in my social circle, who I would otherwise consider intelligent, was basically;
"How do you walk around like that? Don't you know how bad that looks!
We're very disappointed in you."

Yep, that pretty much some it up.

Never put too much faith in the intelligence of your average citizen.

Some of my biggest problems with hair loss is the identity issue, the way you feel about yourself, and self image. The inflammation and itching of my scalp is already bothersome as it is.

I never cared much about what people think but the text in bold is probably what bothers me the most about how hair loss can be perceived. I've said something similar to this in my posts before, but I cannot believe that there are people out there who actually think we WANT to look like this. To me, it's at the same level of people who think wearing hats causes balding, and there's many out there who still think that's true.

 

[CopeForLife]

My father is a miserable alcoholic and I haven't seen him since maybe 3yo and he is NW7 now as I know. Of course I blame him, people like him should not having sex at all. Or should be castrated.

I do not blame mother because she gave me almost everything and as every people outside hair loss world she hasn't knew that her bald father + bald partner = subhuman kid with NW2 since birth (srs). Also I don't have height, face or just general looks. Just same subhuman as @Dante92. Funny fact that my stepfather was model looking guy 6'3 with NW0 at 40 (just lol).

But child is "no no" for me.

I did a simple calculating (considering I'll have two kids) and the only chance I'll not pass degeneracy gene if:
1. I'll have two daughters (who after puberty will have sex with NW0 ignoring young bald guys of course)
2. AND these daughters (two kids each) will not give me any grandson (because I will be bald grandparent from mother side)

Chance to have two daughters is 25%.

So chance that I'll not pass gene is (0.25 * 0.25 * 0.25) * 100 = 1.5(6)%

After rounding it is 1.6% which is about chance to get impotence from finasteride.

 

[shookwun]

My father is a miserable alcoholic and I haven't seen him since maybe 3yo and he is NW7 now as I know. Of course I blame him, people like him should not having sex at all. Or should be castrated.

I do not blame mother because she gave me almost everything and as every people outside hair loss world she hasn't knew that her bald father + bald partner = subhuman kid with NW2 since birth (srs). Also I don't have height, face or just general looks. Just same subhuman as @Dante92. Funny fact that my stepfather was model looking guy 6'3 with NW0 at 40 (just lol).

But child is "no no" for me.

I did a simple calculating (considering I'll have two kids) and the only chance I'll not pass degeneracy gene if:
1. I'll have two daughters (who after puberty will have sex with NW0 ignoring young bald guys of course)
2. AND these daughters (two kids each) will not give me any grandson (because I will be bald grandparent from mother side)

Chance to have two daughters is 25%.

So chance that I'll not pass gene is (0.25 * 0.25 * 0.25) * 100 = 1.5(6)%

After rounding it is 1.6% which is about chance to get impotence from finasteride.

JA)ust slip some STUD DNA in your wifes pussy and claim it for your own. Look after another mans sperm creation.


B) genetic screening, alteration and eugenics in the future to rid your subhuman chromosome deficiencies.

c) east asia. Women seem to value a caregiver, and a man with a big wallet for security more then LOOKS. Just dont take them to North America or any first world country because they might leave after their papers secured

D) Eunuch life style

 

[CopeForLife]

JA)ust slip some STUD DNA in your wifes pussy and claim it for your own. Look after another mans sperm creation.


B) genetic screening, alteration and eugenics in the future to rid your subhuman chromosome deficiencies.

c) east asia. Women seem to value a caregiver, and a man with a big wallet for security more then LOOKS. Just dont take them to North America or any first world country because they might leave after their papers secured

D) Eunuch life style

a. easier to find a girls with kid from NW0 6'2 Chad (not an option for me)
b. "in the future". Yes I know this fairy tales. Same with "in 5 years it baldness/acne will be cured!!!!!! 100%"
c. not an our generation. They raised on instagram, kik and justin bieber. They are a way MORE lookists than westerns I guarantee it. I don't want 30+ east asian in my early 20-s
d. better opportunity is alco/drugs/hookers

I'll choose D.

Cheers.

 

[shookwun]

kinda sad but true. if a buncha of tourists go to try and find pussy, they will holler and flatter the hunk while leaving the bad looking dude for last chance/pick and alternative to financial gain.

 

[CopeForLife]

As someone who's been in Bangkok three months ago, I can confirm this. They've already become like the girls in the West.

Even more lookists than in western world (at least in my slavic country). At least for a balding slavic are a way more open for balding guys since there are a lot of guys balding in young age and it is quite common.

But in SEA just lol. I saw maybe 2-3 guys in 20-s who is balding from millions. They all have AMAZING dark hair, lachowski level.

BUT China and Singapore... In a subway more than half is balding even in young age I was shocked.

China is much more easier. I asked two girls (one is 8/10 rly) how to find a bus, they went away after and in a few seconds 8/10 came back with a shy red face and did a photo of me, lol.

Try China next time, I'll go next year as well.

 

[shookwun]

move to Poland a lot are balding / shave there heads.


Lol where are you getting all this coin from to travel? Most incels live in there basement drinking mountain dew with a flesh light in one hand, c*** in the other

 

[CopeForLife]

move to Poland a lot are balding / shave there heads.


Lol where are you getting all this coin from to travel? Most incels live in there basement drinking mountain dew with a flesh light in one hand, c*** in the other

I am not an incel, lol. And not jerking as well.

I had sex with quite a few but it is hard as ****.

Also I have a social life but almost every of my friends are 7+ and some model looking. Because of that I don't want to go out much since subhumanity feeling when I am with them (just lol when girl goes through you to ask a number of your friend).

Also I don't know why but people frequently just starting interact with me (99% males 6.5+) and befriending, wtf is this?

 

[shookwun]

Good looking people are actually the nicer bunch, I believe your hate is a reflection of your own despair... which is understandable.

When I was skinny I hated jacked dudes, always accused them of steroids and such! REFLECTION. However the more weight and aesthetic muscle I developed the more humble I became to others. Funny how it works eh?




The biggest dicks are usually ugly dudes, tend to be the ones who start fights with people and want validation. I have seen this from time to time,. Jealously

 

[CopeForLife]

Good looking people are actually the nicer bunch

Legit 100%.

That is why I never envy or hate good looking people. They are really nice guys, the only I want to be at least a bit above average without genetical flaws, but...

 

[Dante92]

Legit 100%.

That is why I never envy or hate good looking people. They are really nice guys, the only I want to be at least a bit above average without genetical flaws, but...

In my experience, they are quite the opposite.

 

[swingline747]

JLook after another mans sperm creation.

isnt that what most bald guys end up doing regardless.


[video=youtube;6zXDo4dL7SU]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6zXDo4dL7SU[/video]

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Legit 100%.

That is why I never envy or hate good looking people. They are really nice guys, the only I want to be at least a bit above average without genetical flaws, but...

or they are hoping to use you as the ugly wingman in the bar. Why all hot chicks have that "ugly friend"

 

[shookwun]

isnt that what most bald guys end up doing regardless.


[video=youtube;6zXDo4dL7SU]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6zXDo4dL7SU[/video]

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or they are hoping to use you as the ugly wingman in the bar. Why all hot chicks have that "ugly friend"

bad game to run. ugly wingman doesn't work well IMO and makes for akward situations.


I had a black buddy who's reasonably good looking, but a lot of white girls in general just are not interested in black guys. Seems to be a minority that are open to it, but most are not.

Anyhow, I scored us two hot *** chicks that wanted to go back to my hotel recently while I was in Edmonton. I had both in the bag, my buddy was with one while I was with other at the bar talking away. however both kept always hugging me, and telling me how bad they feel about my situation being evacuted from my home town. Even while the other was talking to my buddy she kept looking and giving those bedroom eyes to me! Anyhow fast forward, we go back to my place and nothing happened for both of us because the other chick with my buddy decided she was to 'tired' and wanted to go home. The chick I was with went along with it, between there bathroom talks and I got left with nothing because this chick wasn't into my buddy. It made it hard for me to escalate because my girl didnt want to make moves and do the dirty while her friend was stuck with my buddy who she didn't even want to see. Had there between mutual attraction on both parties, he would of messed around with her on one bed while I had the other.

I had to re-arrange and meet up with this girl two days after we got together.

this happened about 3 weeks ago. So having a ugly wingman is never a good idea. it's better to have someone on the same looks caliber as yourself. That way women are not fighting over someone, and you both ahve a solid chance at a piece of ***

whole situation was hilarious. We came into a a bar around 12:30 am empty with a few people here-and-there. I walked and sat us beside a group of 8 that all worked at the same bar/restaurant, nearby. They were having a night out after hours with all the co-workers. Amazing how the manager kept trying to cockblock & put himself between me and the girls with trivial discussion. kept worrying that they would be safe, wanted to know if they were cabbing together, and in general just trying to make us go home to our hand. The one in particular I was talking to kept trying to steer him away and was quick to go when we had the chance after last call. When they smoked, he would then try and sit between us. it got to the point where every time they left the girl kept sitting closer and closer to me until our legs were touching and feet were playing touchies.

 

[blackg]

Also I don't know why but people frequently just starting interact with me (99% males 6.5+) and befriending, wtf is this?

Maybe you are attractive to the gay community?

On another note... I like ya new avatar.

 

[CopeForLife]

Maybe you are attractive to the gay community?

On another note... I like ya new avatar.

These guys are 200% straight.

On avatar is Zayn Malik (don't google if you are easy to trigger, it is hair p**rn)

 

[swingline747]

bad game to run. ugly wingman doesn't work well IMO and makes for akward situations.


I had a black buddy who's reasonably good looking, but a lot of white girls in general just are not interested in black guys. Seems to be a minority that are open to it, but most are not.

Anyhow, I scored us two hot *** chicks that wanted to go back to my hotel recently while I was in Edmonton. I had both in the bag, my buddy was with one while I was with other at the bar talking away. however both kept always hugging me, and telling me how bad they feel about my situation being evacuted from my home town. Even while the other was talking to my buddy she kept looking and giving those bedroom eyes to me! Anyhow fast forward, we go back to my place and nothing happened for both of us because the other chick with my buddy decided she was to 'tired' and wanted to go home. The chick I was with went along with it, between there bathroom talks and I got left with nothing because this chick wasn't into my buddy. It made it hard for me to escalate because my girl didnt want to make moves and do the dirty while her friend was stuck with my buddy who she didn't even want to see. Had there between mutual attraction on both parties, he would of messed around with her on one bed while I had the other.

I had to re-arrange and meet up with this girl two days after we got together.

this happened about 3 weeks ago. So having a ugly wingman is never a good idea. it's better to have someone on the same looks caliber as yourself. That way women are not fighting over someone, and you both ahve a solid chance at a piece of ***

whole situation was hilarious. We came into a a bar around 12:30 am empty with a few people here-and-there. I walked and sat us beside a group of 8 that all worked at the same bar/restaurant, nearby. They were having a night out after hours with all the co-workers. Amazing how the manager kept trying to cockblock & put himself between me and the girls with trivial discussion. kept worrying that they would be safe, wanted to know if they were cabbing together, and in general just trying to make us go home to our hand. The one in particular I was talking to kept trying to steer him away and was quick to go when we had the chance after last call. When they smoked, he would then try and sit between us. it got to the point where every time they left the girl kept sitting closer and closer to me until our legs were touching and feet were playing touchies.

I was always the better looking of ALL my friends and never had issues. But I had different ways to pick up girls. Most of the time out at bars, clubs, eateries, the MALL they would just walk right up to me and start talking to me. I actually never went out just to "pick up girls" because I kind of knew I could wherever since I Was also a very good talker but I also always had a girlfriend most of the time to.

I regret not taking advantage of what I had and resent learning to late what I could have done and how. Now I resent my current looks because that is behind me. I spent my early days in solid relationships, working 2 jobs and going to school full time. Most of the girls I "hooked up with" were NOT 10s. Ive never tried to state that but thats mainly because, if they were 7's they tried more and were WAY dirtier to land a hot boyfriend. I never liked trying to hard to get laid, I just didnt have the time.
Even my GF's were mainly like high 7's 8s.... Im not sure how this works lol, but they never had trouble being hit on when we were out and I left them to piss. I never got mad or jealous tho.

Anyway if you are going up to 2 9's and you have a wingman who is a 4 yeah thats prob not gonna work because youd have to be BRAD PITT to get them to stay. One would have to be SO infatuated with you she convinces her friend to hang out (which would also happen). But if you go find an 8 and a 6 your chances are phenomenal because a hot chick with an ugly girl goes through the same stuff out there.
Now if you are both 9s and go up to 2 9s and like the same girl you are screwed (or vice versa)

 

[Hairon]

swingline747, you're saying that before you started losing hair you were really attractive, had no problem getting girls and they used to walk to you and start talking to you, and now you can't do all of that anymore?
what Norwood are you?

 

[shookwun]

Lol swing, some of these numbers your throwing around are ridiculous.


most likely normal 6's and 7s you're constituting as 8's and 9s.





A 8-9 is model worthy aesthetics.

 

[swingline747]

Lol swing, some of these numbers your throwing around are ridiculous.


most likely normal 6's and 7s you're constituting as 8's and 9s.





A 8-9 is model worthy aesthetics.

1) Im figuring a 5 is plain average so a 6 or 7 should not be to off the wall, I said I always got like 6s and 7s, not 9s. I never said I got 9s. I also said Im not sure how this system works here. Maybe here they are more 5s but to me then a 5 would be like a normal looking chick with a bad hair style that doesnt fit and goes everywhere in sweats lol.
I figure 10s are models.

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swingline747, you're saying that before you started losing hair you were really attractive, had no problem getting girls and they used to walk to you and start talking to you, and now you can't do all of that anymore?
what Norwood are you?

It depends honestly. Im like a VERY HIGH forehead 3V tapering to 4 due to my crown. But this is after a hair transplant and I might look into getting some more work up front done. Maybe bring the hairline down a TINY bit. I dont like my side profile. Its just insanely goofy how much face it looks like I have still because of the recession.

I get ZERO attention from girls now. Im not even referring to girls who are young like I Was then. Im talking girls my age in their 30s. Im basically an old man to even them because of my greying and recession. This is even WITH working out.

I can get a girl to talk to me because like I said Im a damn good talker but I never get that click of an invite like they are interested.
I mean Ill get VERY low caliber girls of course. Im not trying to be mean but I mean over weight, old... LIKE OLD, oddballs, lesbians STILL love me for some reason (not the lipstick ones), or girls with some bad feature like acne or lack of hygiene looking types. Sometimes okay looking ones but just CRAZY. I had a woman at my gym try to flirt with me like twice recently. WAY older and just horrible varicose veins on her legs. I couldnt even pretend to humor her. I catch her checking me out and trying to work out near me all the time. Theres this one girls at my gym who I find adorable with the most amazing body, and BUBBLE ***! I have HAD to talk to her a couple times because she tends to want to utilize equiment Im on. Im a bench sharer and will let anyone work in if they need to since I super set a lot. She looks at me like Im human trash, her boyfriend, NW0. Not even good shape.
Maybe she just gives me schit face to keep me from trying to flirt if her boyfriend is there.
There was one girl a couple years ago who my GF swore had a thing for me (back when the GF TRIED losing weight.... yeah THAT happened). She was really hot but disappeared. I think the other half might have had her killed or something.
Maybe because Im still in this situation with my current GF I just dont really try to put myself out there, maybe the disgust of a crap relationship I feel trapped in still rubs off even behind a fake smile and idle chatter. That situation though will never end.
Honestly I think Id do decent enough if I was single again but never what I did prior. I mean I was GOOD LOOKING then. No exaggeration. I had multiple offers to model. Wish I took them. I took an ex to a modeling convention in NY (she was an athlete/model) and she left SOOOOOOO mad because all the people she was interviewing with wanted to know who I was. One old woman (your proverbial old lady artist model scout) left the table to come talk to me. Girls would literally clamor towards my brother and I. Now just him. It was literally conveniently as my hair took its worst turn my life started going down hill and shaving DID NOT help.

good times good times.

 

[shookwun]

Swing. I noticed a massive difference in my aesthetics after getting my temple points done. Those sharp angular points rele do make the forehead appear smaller and bring out the best version of ourselves.

Granted I am only 4 half months post OP, i see a big difference. One side however is lagging


I do recommend getting this done with your next buff/beef it up type transplant.