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@NilesCrane - Nice! Are you looking more like Niles now? Or Frasier?
Very Impressive Dermarolling And Minxodil Results - From Tressless
By the way, how's your crown doing? You said a month ago that your crown was finally starting to respond. Is it still improving?
@Headdy why would you dislike a post like that? You're a dick
How's it going mate?Finished my 20th session last Saturday! One more month for the full six months like in the trial
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Jeez look at those results
I am altho it's not practical for most of us
Anybody know off-hand any particular studies about minoxidil and collagen? I could Google it later but maybe someone knows of one. I'll update my post in a little bit
I am altho it's not practical for most of us
Anybody know off-hand any particular studies about minoxidil and collagen? I could Google it later but maybe someone knows of one. I'll update my post in a little bit
Take it easy... don't get upset because some stranger disliked one of your posts.
It was because he started big 3 about three months prior to needling so the hype in this case is too much imo
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Good for you, you don't get sides with Minoxidil! But sadly you ≠ everyone else.
A roster of common side effects lists people experiencing dizziness, fainting, chest pain, irregular heartbeat, difficult breathing and even unusual weight gain.
So much for "no sides" eh?
Nice to see yet another case of regrowth on completely bald areas. Congrats and welcome, buddy!
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After reading @chen 's post I decided to buy a 1MM dermaroller and try a less frequent version of his regimen.
Old regimen -> Derma-rolling with 1.5mm dermaroller until mild bleeding (just mild tiny cuts. Not as aggressive bleeding as some others). I used to do this once a week. No minoxidil for 24 hrs after dermarolling and I used to feel some burning sensation on the scalp for a day or two after dermarolling.
I tried chen's style today. I did not derma-roll the old way until mild bleeding but just rolled across the scalp for 10 mins normally. Like massaging in some sense. Now 4 hrs later when I was applying minoxidil I could feel slight pain in the scalp while using my finger to spread the minoxidil.
My theory is that although there's no visible damage there is indeed some micro-level injury to the scalp. This causes the body to release healing factors to the scalp (similar to what happens when you get small cuts). By doing this everyday chen was able to reverse the balding because the healing factors released by the body nourished his hair follicles and the hair started getting healthier over time.
So, my new regimen is ->
1) Mild rolling like chen twice a week so that the body keeps releasing growth factors.
2) Old style of harsher rolling once a week with 1.5mm
I am not sure if it will work and if it works will it work as well as it works for chen. But I'll try my best to document the process honestly and post my results here.
Old regimen -> Derma-rolling with 1.5mm dermaroller until mild bleeding (just mild tiny cuts. Not as aggressive bleeding as some others). I used to do this once a week. No minoxidil for 24 hrs after dermarolling and I used to feel some burning sensation on the scalp for a day or two after dermarolling.
I tried chen's style today. I did not derma-roll the old way until mild bleeding but just rolled across the scalp for 10 mins normally. Like massaging in some sense. Now 4 hrs later when I was applying minoxidil I could feel slight pain in the scalp while using my finger to spread the minoxidil.
My theory is that although there's no visible damage there is indeed some micro-level injury to the scalp. This causes the body to release healing factors to the scalp (similar to what happens when you get small cuts). By doing this everyday chen was able to reverse the balding because the healing factors released by the body nourished his hair follicles and the hair started getting healthier over time.
So, my new regimen is ->
1) Mild rolling like chen twice a week so that the body keeps releasing growth factors.
2) Old style of harsher rolling once a week with 1.5mm
I am not sure if it will work and if it works will it work as well as it works for chen. But I'll try my best to document the process honestly and post my results here.
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@tressful11 - it is hard to argue with his results! Do you feel that your 1.5mm harsher rolling should be cut to bi-weekly, or monthly - if you're doing a more frequent lighter rolling?
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I am certainly willing to experiment. I will continue modifying the regimen as and when I feel necessary. Right now with weekly harsh rolling I am going to give the scalp 2-3 days to heal and then do the mild rolling. Mild rolling will only be twice a week. So it's still not as frequent as chen's regimen
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Listen to your body - great idea. Healing is a big part of the game here as well.
Do you find with rolling - you get peeling, flaking skin afterwards? With my pen - I usually start to see that around Day 4. Otherwise my scalp feels pretty decent by that time. I remember @Ludachris Batbak commented that he rolled prior to his recent Sept-January re-growth success, yet he experienced flaking (or more) with the Pen, versus with the Roller.
Do you find with rolling - you get peeling, flaking skin afterwards? With my pen - I usually start to see that around Day 4. Otherwise my scalp feels pretty decent by that time. I remember @Ludachris Batbak commented that he rolled prior to his recent Sept-January re-growth success, yet he experienced flaking (or more) with the Pen, versus with the Roller.
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Yes, flaking starts for me on day 2 and slowly goes down by around day 3-4.
I think the reason for more flaking with pen is due to the more consistency in covering your entire scalp. With dermaroller you might press more harder in certain areas and less harder in others. With dermaroller most of the pressure is controlled by you
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It shed a bit, but yeah my crown is getting better, as the rest of my hair is. I'm currently growing it all out now, will be updating soon.
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Wish we had some result on norwood iii or lower, all results seems to be in high norwoods
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Not necessarily, no one has reach norwood one with this yet
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Yeah but i find it likely most people with a lot of hair would avoid seemingly drastic approaches like needling before it had concrete evidence. So we will likely have to wait for this generation of needlers before we now one way or the other.
I'm a norwood II, closing in on three months very soon. Hopefully i will be able to share some progress within the next three months, so far it seems to be making the tiny blond hairs in my recently lost areas grow longer but still to early for any drastic changes
Because the hair is returning in the same period it has vanished. So it just takes time. But I get what you mean
But wasnt the numberguy close to Norwood 1 or 0
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That’s because most people with NW3 or lower only have balding in the temples. They would need to regrow hair in slick bald areas and I’ve only seen very few do that with very aggressive regime.
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