Very Impressive Dermarolling And Minxodil Results - From Tressless
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How do you apply it? Rub it all over your scalp? Doesn’t it get in your hair?
Im guessing it is probably just your basic lidocaine cream, i personally never needed numbing agents, after a a few passes you sort of get used to the pain, at least i do.
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I wonder if there's a link between how sensitive one is to microneedling and how well it works. It could be connected to the physiological changes in the scalp that accompany hair loss etc. For instance, I'm not sensitive to it at all. I mean it's not pleasant but I can tolerate 1.6mm easily. Also the areas where my hair loss is the worst are the numbest. Overall, I've had a mild success with microneedling.
Good find but be aware he may be trying to sell this Amplexe stuff, check out the comments, I did also think the pics look abit like derma match
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Hey guys.
Back again, not really with an update, but just something neat I noticed while taking some zoomed in photos with flash on.
I took 3x zoomed in, flash photos of the thinnest part of my scalp. As highlighted in picture #1.
A pathetic scrap of scalp with only a few terminal hairs as of that picture's date(july 13th 2020).
I haven't really bothered taking zoomed in pictures. I had a USB magnifying camera once, but found it too hard to use honestly.
But the two pictures I took just now are pretty interesting.
The few terminal hairs in that area are still there, hanging on for dear life. But amongst them is a bushel of new neighbors. Hundreds if not thousands of weaker smaller hairs. Most of which look like smaller versions of male pattern baldness resistant hair that most of us are left with on our sides. If you look closely at them, most of these little buds are doubles, and triples.
Now are these new hairs that weren't there before microneedling and minoxidil treatment? I don't know honestly.
But given my previous posts, and the before and after photos included, I'm inclined to believe these are hairs that are improving the overall look of my thin pathetic hair. And I believe with continued treatment, they will mature into bushels of thick terminal hairs. But alas, only time will tell.
Back again, not really with an update, but just something neat I noticed while taking some zoomed in photos with flash on.
I took 3x zoomed in, flash photos of the thinnest part of my scalp. As highlighted in picture #1.
A pathetic scrap of scalp with only a few terminal hairs as of that picture's date(july 13th 2020).
I haven't really bothered taking zoomed in pictures. I had a USB magnifying camera once, but found it too hard to use honestly.
But the two pictures I took just now are pretty interesting.
The few terminal hairs in that area are still there, hanging on for dear life. But amongst them is a bushel of new neighbors. Hundreds if not thousands of weaker smaller hairs. Most of which look like smaller versions of male pattern baldness resistant hair that most of us are left with on our sides. If you look closely at them, most of these little buds are doubles, and triples.
Now are these new hairs that weren't there before microneedling and minoxidil treatment? I don't know honestly.
But given my previous posts, and the before and after photos included, I'm inclined to believe these are hairs that are improving the overall look of my thin pathetic hair. And I believe with continued treatment, they will mature into bushels of thick terminal hairs. But alas, only time will tell.
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This is really the crux of the problem Follica is facing as well. Basically microneedling can create tons of neogenic hairs but how to get them from the vellus to terminal is unknown currently. I saw some Follica data a while back with vellus hairs at 100/cm^2 if we could get that many terminal it'd be crazy awesome even if they were all singles. This is the reason pharmaceuticals which cause stem cell differentiation and replication are so exciting when combined with microneedleing.
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What other pharmaceuticals can be combined with needling?
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Yup gets itchy after 2-3 days then I use a comb remove the dead skin.
Also are there any bad asses here who apply minoxidil right after hard needling?
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Minoxodil is the most popular and probably the most effective available.
There are other things that have a lot of potential like good prp(Not a pharmaceutical but will have pharmaceutical like effects) and on the more theoretical side wnt activators and SFRP inhibitors. SM04554 has a lot of potential for this(activating wnt) specifically. Anything that upregulates PGF2a or downregulates PGD2 may also have a positive effect. Dr. Cotsarelis spent a significant amount of time trying to solve this specific problem. If you are particularly interested his papers on follicular neogenesis are a great place to research.
I'm at about 2 months in. Still haven't taken comparison photos, and I won't until probably around New Years. However, my hair is much thicker already. It's too soon to tell, but I think I might be a hyper responder. I won't be surprised if I won't need fibers and dermatch by Christmas.
I'm needling HEAVY once a week (took one week off though). Bleeding. Started at 1.25mm, now I'm up to 1.75mm and will stick with that. It takes about 25 minutes each session. I'm also applying minoxidil quite often.
I'm needling HEAVY once a week (took one week off though). Bleeding. Started at 1.25mm, now I'm up to 1.75mm and will stick with that. It takes about 25 minutes each session. I'm also applying minoxidil quite often.
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Yeah I apply minoxidil right after micro needle. I have my derma pen set at 1.25mm. I actually start at 0.7mm on the first needle and then set it at 1.25.
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So you’re needling and apply minoxidil often.. how does that work when you’re also using fibres? Do you shampoo your hair every eve before minoxidil? Because I found having to wash my hair every eve for minoxidil made it very dry
Well working from home has been a godsend. Without that, it wouldn't be possible to needle and hide my hair at work. So I needle every Sunday, and I don't go out without a hat until usually the next Friday or Saturday. So if I go out with friends, it's been a few days and put on fibers/dermatch. So I'm not using fibers or dermatch right after rolling. I'd probably feel safe doing it 48 hours after a needling session though.
I use 2% ketoconazole shampoo twice a week. And regular baby shampoo 1-2x a week. The other days just water.
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I apply right after needling every two weeks but oral the rest of the time
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Update direct normal Daylight - 2 year comparison
Still Needling every 10 days with minoxidil
but i think i need to roll harder - maybe my skin get used to the procedure
also uploaded my hairline atm i hope those hairs get stronger and stronger
so i started daily 0,5 mm in Frontal area
i will make a comparison in 3 month
Still Needling every 10 days with minoxidil
but i think i need to roll harder - maybe my skin get used to the procedure
also uploaded my hairline atm i hope those hairs get stronger and stronger
so i started daily 0,5 mm in Frontal area
i will make a comparison in 3 month
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There's a huge list of them posted in one of the Follica patent threads. Basically anything that upregulates Wnts or shh.
For me it's the opposite, the pain is worse where my hair is worse. Probably because there's less hair in the way. I think people just need to find the right depth for them. I like the idea of going just deep enough to get some pinpoint bleeding, which for me is 1.5mm. I don't know what you needle with, but it hurts more at higher speeds, and the device you use matters too because some won't actually penetrate as deep as what you set it at.
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Not sure if this is allowed (mods feel free to remove if not) but I'm selling a hardly used Derminator 2 (EU plug) for cheap if anyone is interested. Shipping to Europe. This thing works but I'm too lazy to stick to a steady microneedling routine. PM me for more details.