Very Impressive Dermarolling And Minxodil Results - From Tressless

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Dat5Years said:
noticed a guy in there saying his stack was like Micro Needling, minoxidil and Mk - 677. Wonder if that MK-677 did anything, its just growth hormone isn't it, maybe in combination? f*** knows
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In my understanding MK- 677 would not do anything for Androgenetic Alopecia. Plus, it is of more risk to consume it if you are not training adequately. Rather than taking this route, oral fina/duta would be a known devil.
 
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Badbald said:
Good find but be aware he may be trying to sell this Amplexe stuff, check out the comments, I did also think the pics look abit like derma match
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yea honestly it just looks that his skin got darker (concealer?) and his hair is little longer in the second pic, I don't see clear regrowth at all.
 
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tressful11 said:
Another result from tressless. Dude started microneedling alongside finasteride and min.
At this point it's pretty clear that anyone who starts microneedling with the big 3 will get insane results. Big 3 needs to be Big 4 now with dermarolling factored in.
https://www.reddit.com/r/tressless/comments/c4sb52/my_results_after_one_year_on_big_3_dermastamp/[URL]https://www.reddit.com/r/tressless/comments/c4sb52/my_results_after_one_year_on_big_3_dermastamp/ [/URL]
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His gains seems legit, but he attributes it to minoxidil and fina mostly: "I attribute 90% of my gains to finasteride and min, 10% to dermastamp."

In that same sub there is a fair amount of hyper responders that got similar gains with only finasteride and/or minoxidil so here is that.

I wonder if the people getting gains from needling the sh*t of their scalps while taking meds wouldn't be getting the same results with just the meds alone
 
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KNemo said:
Haven't tried the D2 but it's slow and expensive. Don't get the A7 if you go for a Dr. Pen however buy the M8 wireless instead. Much better build quality and hurts a lot less at least for me, the A7 doesn't hold cartridges firmly so they wobble slightly hitting dry skin which is painful. M8 cartridges also glides easier over skin and hair which also lower discomfort.
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I’ve noticed the m8 doesn’t have a 12 pin cartridge, does this matter? Is 12 pin the only way to do it or would 16 pin have the same effect?
 
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Is Dr Pen a dropshipper turned to brand? I found many A7s and M8s that seem to be the exact branded product you would get off amazon or the official store but at a much higher discount. 80$ max for either of the pens. Anyone knows if they are just manufacturing copies that are 100% identical (branded) = illegal. Or they are actually the exact same pens?
 
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pegasus2 said:
The problem with higher needle cartridges, as someone pointed out in one of these threads is that a greater number of needles spreads out the force of the impact, lessening the ability of the needles to fully penetrate. Think of laying on a bed of nails versus a single nail. This could especially be a problem with wireless pens that are operating only on battery power.
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Do you think 16 pin cartridges would be okay?
 
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@kungfukenny any number will work. It is hard to say what kind of result differential there will be. We are just trying to follow the follica protocol and their reasoning, except we go deeper (1.5mm). You can view the abstract in this threat.

FYI for anyone who is buying Dr. Pen. It is in fact a dropshipping item. Amazon dropshippers resell it on amazon and the "official" store is just a shopify shop. So if that is what you are buying go to aliexpress and get them for ~60USD$
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Wasn't there a study stating that less than 1.0 mm is better than 1.5mm? I understand that one needs to find his optimal depth but should start from a low number.
 
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I’m still doing 1mm every two weeks, and will continue to do so on my crown until the 6 month mark, to see what the returns of this protocol are. I have been considering though, to microneedle the left side of my head weekly and the right side more deeply. That’s the advantage of having DUPA: lots of scalp to experiment with.
 
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Well, imagine my Sunday evenings: microneedling for ages, and then laser helmet for half an hour. But with another lockdown around the corner, time is not an issue.
 
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Hi folks

Sharing my quick update. I've been using a derma pen for about 7-8 months consistently every two weeks. And I must notice it does work. Derma could be the gold if your hair-loss is not aggressive. My loss has stabilized, but I still had consistent shedding. However, after using the Derma pen for a couple of months, the shedding issue got way better + plus my overall state of the scalp improved dramatically. At the beginning of the summer, I got too lazy and dropped my Derma pen regiment. As a result, I started to observe increased shedding. That wasn't one day change. The shedding has been increasing gradually and started to be noticeable in October.

OK. So, I would definitely recommend the derma pen as a good addition or even a standalone treatment for people with non-aggressive hair loss. Also, it can fix scalp itch pretty fast and should slow down the further loss.

I'm going to restart my Dermapen course, but I plan to add more stuff to my routine this time. I have a couple of questions. Maybe someone can help?

1. I saw that people have success after introducing Zix to the base Derma pen regimen. Are there any pieces of advice related to Zix? Should it be applied after wounding? Would it make sense to combine Zix and the derma roller?
2. There a handful of success stories that covered a combination of Minoxidil and wounding. Maybe someone tried a light version of Min(2%) + wounding? Or are there any other light growth stimulators that could be tried in conjunction with roller\pen\etc?
3. Just a super general question. Probably, I didn't follow the last 200 pages of this thread. Has something changed over that time? Did the community find something else that could enhance the benefit of wounding?

Hopefully, I will stabilize my current state soon. The next step is to get the transplant and forget about f****ng hair for the next 5-7 years (or even 10 if I'm a lucky bastard)
 
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