Very Impressive Dermarolling And Minxodil Results - From Tressless

N1TR4M

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I'm just trying to understand it, Dr Pen's lowest settings (A6, A7, M8) is like 8000 or so rpms which equates to 133 oscillations, correct?

If we are using 12 needle cartridges thats 12 x 133 = 1596 strikes per second. So we move about 1 cm per second.

The article summary of the article, given by benjt2, says to move 2 cm per second.

So if I have the oscillations conversion from RPM correct, then if we have a 12pin Dr Pen on a setting of 8000 RPM then we should aim for between 1-2 seconds per cm and then we are following the protocol fairly well, correct?
 

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Ahh, I forgot to mention the article prefers 2 passes, so thats why you can do 1 pass at 1cm/sec or 2 passes at 2cm/s.
 

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And how does the forum feel about 1.0mm?

Previous studies done showed 1.5mm, it was also the magic number that everyone used to go by.

How do we feel about it now compared to 1.0mm?
 

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And how does the forum feel about 1.0mm?

Previous studies done showed 1.5mm, it was also the magic number that everyone used to go by.

How do we feel about it now compared to 1.0mm?

In the Dhurat study they used a 1.5mm derma roller. Follica used a needling device set at a depth of 1mm.
 

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I just got my M8 today.

Took my photos and then used the pen.

Went 1mm, 2 passes. Trying to replicate Follica's Protocol. once, every 2 weeks.
 

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I set my pen to lowest speed which is still 8000 rpm. I am using 16 needles instead of 12. I think that should be ok.
 

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What are the settings for using a derpamen (Dr. Pen) on our face?

0.5mm? 0.75?
I had my face microneedled by a professional last week and she used different settings for different areas. She started at 0.25, and went deeper if my skin did not react. She ended up doing 0.50 for most areas. My face looked very sunburnt afterwards. When I got back home my boss called me via Teams and I could not turn on the camera :)
 

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What are the settings for using a derpamen (Dr. Pen) on our face?

0.5mm? 0.75?

Years ago i used a 1.5mm manual stamp once a month for forehead lines and they were completely gone within 6 months, they are just now starting to come back, so i started again only this time with a dr pen and not a manual stamp. The results in regards to wrinkles last years and years from my experience.
 

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Years ago i used a 1.5mm manual stamp once a month for forehead lines and they were completely gone within 6 months, they are just now starting to come back, so i started again only this time with a dr pen and not a manual stamp. The results in regards to wrinkles last years and years from my experience.
How long did it take to see results?
 

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Hi, been doing the procedure for a while. Now that we’re getting closer to the summer, I’ve been thinking about sun exposure after microneedling.
I read in a post here that it should be avoided during 4 days after the procedure, but I’d like to know what the consensus is.

I was even considering stopping the treatment altogether just because of that, as sometimes I want to be outside without a hat and couldn’t because my skin was still slightly red
 

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wow these are damn impressive results! if i could achieve this il be tap dancing :)

i use a dr pen m8 wireless changing needle set every 2 sessions, 16 pin once per week, i see alot of new hairs but only 4 weeks now.

i cant see why the wired derminator is any better, after all its your application and perforation thats important? This guy above says he just uses a ORA derma roller which i thought rollers weren't as good as vertical stamping style techniques approved by microneedling professionals.... it should then come down the quality of the needles and application technique surely?

i have tried to read this thread but 707 pages :eek: so forgive me if i missed this
 

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He used 8 month minoxidil and 4 month finasteride.

( he told me that in the comments.)

but its still the quick gains from minoxidil that tends to leave after 1-2 years
can you explain what you mean by leaving after 1-2 years?
 

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It's a meme that minoxidil gains are temporary. Sure, for someone not on finasteride that may be true however even then there are plenty of examples of men keeping their minoxidil gains over a long time.
 

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I think I'm going back to 1.5 once a week, felt like I was getting better results. When I was doing 1.5 years ago, I was getting result with minoxidil and I didn't even put it on my head, just my beard.
 
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