Very Impressive Dermarolling And Minxodil Results - From Tressless

[Capone]

Good luck with dutasteride. Did you have good results on finasteride? If it weren’t for the body hair, I would also like to try oral minoxidil - I have high blood pressure anyway.


Just a regular diet. Meat, fish, vegetables, fruit. Chocolate, crisps, lots of coffee, lots of water. I just eat what I like basically

You ever get the itch after anything in particular, chocolate?

 

[Jesse14]

After needling, are you supposed to not wash your hair/ wipe the dead skin off for a while? Would if affect the wound healing response that we want to happen? I have been waiting a couple days, but wondering if I need to wait longer.

 

[iCloud]

After needling, are you supposed to not wash your hair/ wipe the dead skin off for a while? Would if affect the wound healing response that we want to happen? I have been waiting a couple days, but wondering if I need to wait longer.

I wash my hair every day, I don’t think it matters.

 

[cryingariver]

here's my experience with dermarolling and minoxidil. I had amazing regrowth over a year ago. unfortunately, i had to go in for cataract surgery, at a young age!! i had to stop with the dermarolling for about 2 months. I didn't want the vibrations across my scalp to affect the incision in my eye. i think I prioritized correctly haha. i continued with the minoxidil however. Lo and behold, I lost a ton of gains unfortunately since i wasn't dermarolling. anyway, i went back on it after those 2 months. it's now been about 8 months. i dermaroll once every 2 weeks at 1.25mm. rogaine every night. I'm maintaining, which makes me happy. But no regrowth. any suggestions??? like i mentioned... maintaining, yes. Regrowth, no. I had regrowth prior to the surgery. but nothing now!!

EDIT: i know derma rolling and minoxidil work together, and i saw the results first hand! i just can't replicate it again. maybe my follicles can only be re-activated once?? am i screwed?

 

[JaneyElizabeth]

here's my experience with dermarolling and minoxidil. I had amazing regrowth over a year ago. unfortunately, i had to go in for cataract surgery, at a young age!! i had to stop with the dermarolling for about 2 months. I didn't want the vibrations across my scalp to affect the incision in my eye. i think I prioritized correctly haha. i continued with the minoxidil however. Lo and behold, I lost a ton of gains unfortunately since i wasn't dermarolling. anyway, i went back on it after those 2 months. it's now been about 8 months. i dermaroll once every 2 weeks at 1.25mm. rogaine every night. I'm maintaining, which makes me happy. But no regrowth. any suggestions??? like i mentioned... maintaining, yes. Regrowth, no. I had regrowth prior to the surgery. but nothing now!!

EDIT: i know derma rolling and minoxidil work together, and i saw the results first hand! i just can't replicate it again. maybe my follicles can only be re-activated once?? am i screwed?

I am on so many treatments that I can't prove any regrowth but I have seen amazing scar healing which purportedly works the same way.

The thing that puzzles me is how quickly the regrown hair falls out after desisting from DR as per reports on here by others. This seems to indicate that the hair was fully "healed" perhaps but it might be that bald people and I mean with lots of skin showing, have rampant endocrine processes that can catch up by eradicating hair in no time. Why wouldn't dutasteride or finasteride help maintain gains? I am always on all of these and I have microneedled four times a month for two years now and all I can say is that together everything is working great but I would look at combining it with an RI. Other topicals besides minoxidil might be effective but why re-invent the wheel unless you can't use minoxidil for some reason. You might also try putting on retin-A and topical min afterwards. If doing so hurts, then you are pressing two hard.

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[cryingariver]

I am on so many treatments that I can't prove any regrowth but I have seen amazing scar healing which purportedly works the same way.

The thing that puzzles me is how quickly the regrown hair falls out after desisting from DR as per reports on here by others. This seems to indicate that the hair was fully "healed" perhaps but it might be that bald people and I mean with lots of skin showing, have rampant endocrine processes that can catch up by eradicating hair in no time. Why wouldn't dutasteride or finasteride help maintain gains? I am always on all of these and I have microneedled four times a month for two years now and all I can say is that together everything is working great but I would look at combining it with an RI. Other topicals besides minoxidil might be effective but why re-invent the wheel unless you can't use minoxidil for some reason. You might also try putting on retin-A and topical min afterwards. If doing so hurts, then you are pressing two hard.

Thank you for your reply! What is RI? I swear, the body's mechanism of destroying follicles mutates. when i first tried rogaine, i regrew some but then lost it years later. i tried massaging... it thickened up what i had, but then i started losing that. I tried sandalore... it worked wonders! only to lose all my regrowth and then even more months later, even though i was still on it. Now its the same broken record with the derma rolling / minoxidil. Whatever you do to fight it, the body will devise another way of going around it and keep destroying your hair. It's like a damn virus.

And yes!! if you drop the DR for a few weeks, it has a huge detrimental effect on the hair follicles. all it takes is a few weeks.

 

[JaneyElizabeth]

Thank you for your reply! What is RI? I swear, the body's mechanism of destroying follicles mutates. when i first tried rogaine, i regrew some but then lost it years later. i tried massaging... it thickened up what i had, but then i started losing that. I tried sandalore... it worked wonders! only to lose all my regrowth and then even more months later, even though i was still on it. Now its the same broken record with the derma rolling / minoxidil. Whatever you do to fight it, the body will devise another way of going around it and keep destroying your hair. It's like a damn virus.

RI is my abbreviation for reductase inhibitors like finasteride/Duta.

I agree with you on the rest. I have followed a guy @bridgeburn, who hasn't been around in over two years, who came from a group that touted extreme measures for hair regrowth and so he started a thread with quite often periodic updates and pics showing that he was restoring huge amounts of hair with extreme measures meaning mostly HRT but also 5mg daily of oral min. I emulate him on my own similar thread--he is gone now and it's best to separate my experience anyway. Among white males, our bodies want hair on our faces much more than hair on our scalps and it is a constant battle. I maintained more or less for 30 years on finasteride/Min/Duta but then I max'ed out and started losing hair again. I am done with having children so I made a choice not to go bald. HRT doesn't work for everyone for hair regrowth and we don't know why but my thesis is that it takes very high sustained levels for at least 12-18 months.

The other thing that you guys can't/won't do and I stress this, you have to ride out any sheds. This is indicative of getting regrowth results of some type but guys always stop treatment and lose the chance for benefits. Slow titration is key. Anyway, I was bald for 36 years after being a pretty cute teen with excellent hair, which makes it even worse to lose but I feel your pain as they say. Baldness is/can be just as bad as gender dysphoria and I call it hair dysphoria and many MtF non-binary folks suffer from hair dysphoria that is essentially linked to gender dysphoria because the two are so intertwined psychologically for many of us.

Here are my latest progress pics. Just as happened with Bridge, I expect to see more and more interest in HRT by XY's again particularly as my hair continues to lengthen without any mullet any longer and substantial restoration from either a visibly bald state or from a cueball actually because I shed all my hair--all-when trying spironolactone as an HRT component. I found a cute wig and rode the shed out and just kept titrating upwards, microneedling and all of the rest:

https://www.hairlosstalk.com/interact/threads/hair-is-not-life-but-its-pretty-damn-close-hrt-and-pictorial-posts-prove-it.130425/page-49

Goddess bless,
Janey

 

[cryingariver]

I have to stay away from finasteride / duta. finasteride gave me side effects, I did get through it, but don't want to go through it again. So I can't consider using RI. maybe i can try copper peptides and drink it daily.

 

[cryingariver]

Whatever happened to Hellouser and Desmond? And where's ohmanohno with the 'rabble rabble rabble' comments?... those were funny times on the brotzu thread.

 

[m97]

Which catriges are better for dr pen m8?

 

[Derelict]

Which catriges are better for dr pen m8?

you mean needle number? i think most use 12 pin.

 

[KNemo]

Which catriges are better for dr pen m8?

Don't know about best but I use 16 pin cartridges.

 

[cryingariver]

Hey i have to ask , i see you active alot here .
Everytime i see you comment its always a huge amount of text , and Im really intrested in reading what you say can you please do tldr ? Thanks.

you call that long? it was only 3 paragraphs. it's a quick read. Have you been to Reddit? the posts there are the true novels!

 

[bucksins6x]

If I needle .75mm-1mm every other week, will I be increasing systemic absorption if I do it 3-4 days apart from application? I’m currently on topical dutasteride and am worried about increased absorption. Is 3-4 days long enough to have no increased absorption? I’ve heard some people say 24-36 hours. Would the long half life of dutasteride effect it?

 

[hairDespair]

Another week, another jack sh*t to show for it other than a sore head. Maybe i need to just butcher my scalp lol

I have a feeling these cheap dr pens don't work as well over a long time from the motors wearing down. I notice it has a harder time going existing hair now

 

[trialAcc]

Something not often discussed is the depth at which one forces the needles down the scalp. It's an often left out information by those getting results. The amount of needles, the amount of passes and the amount of Minoxidil one applies is also valuable to know.

Success has been held by some through needling just once a week with a 1.5mm dermaroller but also by dermarolling with a 1.5mm dermaroller everyday. When needling once a week with a 1.5mm dermaroller it's more common that the needling is done heavily, with more passes and at a greater depth which draws blood. When needling everyday, regardless of needle length, focus is most commonly layed on just reddenning the skin.

There's plenty of evidence already that applying Minoxidil straight after needling is more effective. Minoxidil is put to more use with this method because of the increased absorption. However, more Minoxidil means more side effects such as an even greater amount of body hair being grown and lowered blood pressure. High doses of Minoxidil are easily held with oral pills and has the potential to promote extreme hair growth all over the body but might at the same time result dangerous.

Yeah it's more effective because you're pouring minoxidil directly into your blood stream where it doesn't need the enzyme to be effective. Might as well just take oral min if you're going to do this regularly,

 

[EMILIO CHESSA]

Yeah it's more effective because you're pouring minoxidil directly into your blood stream where it doesn't need the enzyme to be effective. Might as well just take oral min if you're going to do this regularly,

is 2.5 mg of oral minoxidil per day okay?

 

[kungfukenny]

What’s the general consensus here on oral minoxidil? Anyone had results using it? Is it more effective?

 

[poopfeast420]

Yes. But microneedling also upregulates the enzymatic activity in the scalp.

0.5mg of dutasteride and 10mg of oral Minoxidil made some guy grow so much hair that his temples started connecting with his eyebrows. He would be on the Norwood minus scale. I would say the regimen isn't entirely safe though. Some also seem to be poor responders to Minoxidil, which I'll have to read up more on for an explanation.

Eh Everyone's different. I've been on dutasteride 0.5 Eod + microneedling follica regime + topical minoxidil/tret and it hasn't even slowed it down

 

[supermusic]

I had improvements using a common roller, with 1.5 needles. Once a week, strong until bleeding. Minoxidil once a day and waiting 24 hours after the roller session. I was also taking 1mg of finasteride, but from years ago. I stopped because it was quite painful, possibly I will return to it.