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what are you doing? microneedle and rogaine your scalp!
Very Impressive Dermarolling And Minxodil Results - From Tressless
Einstein
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Nice. That’s similar to what I’m seeing
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same here dupa and finasteride not working
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M8 compared to Derm 2
I’m surprised at the speed and “puncture-power” (for lack of better term) of the D2 compared with the M8 I’ve been using. It may very well be just in my head but the puncturing speed is another level and for some reason it feels like it punctures at a higher velocity and more efficiently through the skin. Now I’m compelled to use it again next week and compare again. If I keep feeling this way about the D2 I just might wind up buying another one.
I’m surprised at the speed and “puncture-power” (for lack of better term) of the D2 compared with the M8 I’ve been using. It may very well be just in my head but the puncturing speed is another level and for some reason it feels like it punctures at a higher velocity and more efficiently through the skin. Now I’m compelled to use it again next week and compare again. If I keep feeling this way about the D2 I just might wind up buying another one.
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Einstein
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Check out this fellow forum member’s absolutely stunning results
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Is there any reason to microneedle while taking only Oral minoxidil and finasteride? From what I have read microneedling is only for the absorption of liquid minoxidil on the scalp right?
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Good question !
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Definitely microneedle, wounding can encourage hair growth.
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Has this thread finally died?
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I don't see any progress but the length and the horse tail style cut that hides one side of the temples.
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Solid gains!
It’s also the synergy that is important : minoxidil, microneedling, anti-androgen. This will give you the best results. Microneedling is an important factor in it I believe.
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Once a week for life, and blood isn't needed or preferred; this is from two years back with the bloody face. People thought that it might have been necessary to draw blood for best results and that might be true but it's messy and unhygienic when done to this extent but it didn't particularly hurt even with the blood.
No pain; no gain. This is or can be a lot of work when trying to first halt the inertia of hair loss and then turn regrowth back on.
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Is there consensus about how permanent those results are if one would continue that protocol indefinately? I have read that there can be a boost in hair, but around the 2 year mark the results regress. Sometimes back to baseline. Is wounding + minoxidil a solution for the longer term?
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The "consensus" is that you need finasteride if you want to keep results for longer term. minoxidil will give regrowth but won't stop continued loss.
I have read at least one case though of someone who maintained long term on minoxidil only, but I suppose it's quite rare. As an earlier poster mentioned, you want the synergy of combined treatments for best results. Finasteride + minoxidil + dermarolling is best for long-term... if you're too scared for finasteride, supposedly dermarolling + minoxidil has a much longer life for results, compared to minoxidil alone.
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No. It produces minor wounds that promote stem cell revitalization and hair follicle cross-talk potentially in addition to the added absorption of meds. You need sulfurotransferase for minoxidil to work but to my knowledge microneedling doesn't increase sulfurotransferase on it's own. I use substantial retin-A and topical minoxidil and estrogen on my hair and then estrogen and retin-A on my neck but none of us can say much because we all use multiple treatments and there's a huge tension between what I am doing in terms of promoting my own hair growth and my being a data point. So the single shot microneedling folks are very important so people should try different things but the scar relief for me was so amazing and unbelievable that it's clear that it has revitalized my entire scalp of hair. Microneedling and estradiol and then adding oral min have saved me and saved my focus in life. All three I know work very well but I can't prove it except for the scar relief and I have posted pictures of all of those failed plugs from 25 years ago and it's hard to even find them now and many were unproductive to begin with and it's all clean, fresh tissue that is apparently follicle bearing and we used to think that was impossible. HRT and microneedling and oral min are mind-blowing and the entire transformation for me has been almost perfectly androgynous which is exciting and mind-blowing to me as well. I was kind of bored being the other guy balding with the constant five o'clock shadow and hang-dog look all of the time.
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No. All lengths seem to work great for scar tissue but it might be that as you go along you want slightly longer ones. I tried 2.5mm and that broke and I am using mostly 2.0mm now but also a couple of less deep models. The longer needles work better for longer hair but I have had to start doing it in front of the mirror and not the tv but it will snag if you don't hold the hair down. I am going to focus on the temples now because I can see some scarring and under-productive grafts there. They took hair out to put my transplant in, that's how dumb I was. Never do that. If you aren't bald enough to fit them in, then wait or better don't go forward for others with diffuse thinning.