Website explains why HM/new discoveries shrouded in secrecy

chewbaca

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http://www.baldnessbattlers.com/aaaframeset.htm

an article from the site

Billions of dollars are spent each year on hair-loss related products and services. They are earned by the hair transplant industry, by the pharmaceutical industry in the few drugs they have brought to market and by a hodge-podge of smaller players selling bogus "natural" cures, hundreds of untested shampoos and topicals, herbs and vitamins...the list is quite lengthy.

Cumulatively and internationally, this represents billions of dollars in revenue. These monies are growing in spite of the overall lack of success that these services and products yield to the consumer. In actuality, there is very little change in the net result in the fight against hair loss from what was available centuries ago. And just as in the past "snake oils" are still being purchased by a desperate and uneducated populace.

A real working cure for hair-loss would cut off this river of money in short order. We believe that Hair Multiplication (HM) will ultimately be that cure. We also believe that THE AWARENESS of HM's possibility would probably cripple the Hair Transplant (hair transplant) industry within a year or less.

The hair transplant industry is afraid of HM in particular. And rightly so for the consumer's ignorance is their best friend. For once the hair transplant consumer learns that something superior is on the horizon -even if a few years away- would that person not consider to hold off on the surgery he or she was thinking about? Of course they would.

Educating people about HM will probably end hair transplant industry very quickly. Therefore the best thing for the "cutters" is to block awareness of the subject as best as possible. In that regard, they have been remarkably successful. In magazines and conferences pertaining to hair transplant, the subject of HM is usually described as "many years away" or possibly dangerous. This is a lucky coincidence for these doctors, which makes us their worst nightmare, because they cannot control us.

A fundamental belief we hold is this: By making the hair transplant consumer aware of HM as a near term possibility, we hasten the arrival of HM itself.

Some of the forces arrayed against HM's arrival on the information radar include several "Hair Loss advocates." These people are often in some way on the payrolls of the doctors and the drug industry, but feign independence from them at the same time. It is a delicate dance they perform and one which probably started out with good intentions. Money seems to have diverted their focus as is human nature. Regardless of intentions, they are now part of the full court press to block awareness of HM.

One of these charlatans even refers to himself as the "Ralph Nader of Hairloss". Over time, he has garnered a small niche in the economy as an "expert" on the subject. He is somewhat adept at publicity garnering and self promotion, a vaunted skill in this age of shameless fame seeking. This gentleman in particular is DOING NOTHING to promote awareness of HM. This is because he makes money from the status quo. He gets on television periodically and promotes his two books when he sits down next to Oprah, a milestone in his career. A recent "column" of his in a hair transplant industrial magazine made no mention of HM as a near future option. You can find his tomes at assorted book sites if you wish to read a lot of useless information you can get for free elsewhere. But he will appreciate your contributions to his stock portfolio.

Another website devoted to Hair-loss also must be viewed cynically as the keeper of that flame has made himself into a "pundit" as well. He has many media contacts and access but most of the "new" at that website is generally an interview with a different hair transplant surgeon once a month. He has official links to both major American and British TV networks. He would be able to do some kind of press release and also contribute generally to the "Don't have hair transplant!" campaign and help bring about its demise.

He does not. We cannot help but wonder how much money he receives in advertising from his website and his "expert" status. We should mention that the two aforementioned gentlemen are both linked online and know each other well. How fortunate for us that they feel no need nor urgency to rock the boat.

We hope to shame these self-proclaimed defenders of the consumer into action. But we will not hold our breath.

For if HM is born will they not lose their status and have to find real jobs? It is frustrating that they are in a position to help and prefer things as they are.

Money and self interest are twined together like strands of DNA. We do not oppose making money. Indeed, we would like to spend some, but not for the failed technologies of the past. We want HM. It is possible. This has been known for over ten years, perhaps longer. If research is needed, then the money should be spent and spent now.

To create HM we must DESTROY hair transplant. They cannot co-exist. As in any Darwinian competition, the inferior will be killed off without remorse. Just as one species kills off another, just as eight track bowed to cassette and that yielded to CD's. The inferior product must die.

Money must be spent ON A LARGE SCALE to ramp this up. To slay the dragon of hair transplant we need only educate. But this is easier said than done as our opponents =including our "advocates" have greater money, access to media and organization. They have titles of experts, doctors, and pundits to buttress their arguments. To date they have done a remarkable job of protecting their interests. And purely on that level, no one can blame them.

But now, their interests conflict with our own. The cat is out of the bag. Indeed, if they are smart, they will start laying the groundwork now -and quickly- to create and sell HM to the consumer. There is still time for them to capitalize on the change ongoing. A full court press on research and marketing would bring this tech to market much sooner than the "many years" they try to sell us on. To be positive, we are quite sure that there is much money to be made with a real, viable technique.

What they do not realize is that we have nothing to lose by destroying them. We would add that it is in our estimation unethical to sell a dubious treatment like hair transplant to someone vulnerable when he or she might decide to wait if they were aware of HM. Most of their work is unsatisfactory to its recipients from what we can gauge. Sometimes the results are disastrous, the cosmetic equivalent of bloodletting. Its time has come and gone.

HM is possible. How soon? Well hold off on hair transplant. It will come sooner. Spread the word
 
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chewbaca said:
One of these charlatans even refers to himself as the "Ralph Nader of Hairloss". Over time, he has garnered a small niche in the economy as an "expert" on the subject. He is somewhat adept at publicity garnering and self promotion, a vaunted skill in this age of shameless fame seeking. This gentleman in particular is DOING NOTHING to promote awareness of HM. This is because he makes money from the status quo. He gets on television periodically and promotes his two books when he sits down next to Oprah, a milestone in his career. A recent "column" of his in a hair transplant industrial magazine made no mention of HM as a near future option. You can find his tomes at assorted book sites if you wish to read a lot of useless information you can get for free elsewhere. But he will appreciate your contributions to his stock portfolio.
This paragraph is in reference to Spencer Kobren.
 

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Re: Website explains why HM/new discoveries shrouded in secr

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chewbaca said:
One of these charlatans even refers to himself as the "Ralph Nader of Hairloss". Over time, he has garnered a small niche in the economy as an "expert" on the subject. He is somewhat adept at publicity garnering and self promotion, a vaunted skill in this age of shameless fame seeking. This gentleman in particular is DOING NOTHING to promote awareness of HM. This is because he makes money from the status quo. He gets on television periodically and promotes his two books when he sits down next to Oprah, a milestone in his career. A recent "column" of his in a hair transplant industrial magazine made no mention of HM as a near future option. You can find his tomes at assorted book sites if you wish to read a lot of useless information you can get for free elsewhere. But he will appreciate your contributions to his stock portfolio.
This paragraph is in reference to Spencer Kobren.

I was thinking that as i read it, but i'm not worried about people trying to keep quite about HM as because i don't think they will be able too. Plus there will still be plenty of money to be earned by HM
 

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Keeping people quiet about HM is not going to slow down the development of the technology. If that were the case, the researchers and investors actually developing it would be out yapping on every talk show they could get booked onto.

And it is not necessary to "destroy" the hair transplant industry in order to see HM come to fruition. HM might eventually put a dent in a lot of hair transplant surgeons' practices, but how will it speed up the HM development to "destroy" that industry before HM is available? In addition, hair transplant doctors still have a valuable role to play. For many of us, hair transplant can give us a bridge to the days of HM, allowing us to keep hair on top of our heads in the years until HM is available.

Frankly, if the science works and sufficient capital is made available by investors, HM will happen sometime or other. And there's very little that eager male pattern baldness sufferers, vile snake-oilers, or transplant doctors (ethical or unethical) can do to speed or slow that process. Whether someone desperately wants HM to get to market, or desperately wants it to fail, there's just not much that person can do about it -- despite the conspiracy theories above.
 

chewbaca

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Hm is the same with any other corporate organisation, keep mum about things for fear of competition
 

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chewbaca said:
Hm is the same with any other corporate organisation, keep mum about things for fear of competition

If they keep quiet about it how on earth are they ever going to be able to utilize it and make money off of it? The other companies will still have to find a way to do it as well.
 

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WHERE ARE THE PICTURES??????????

Hey guys, Im all for HM, cloning, tissue engineering, genetic therapy, whatever would work, BUT WHERE ARE THE PICURES AND PROOF....?

Until I see some very good photos and interviews with recipients (and not quickie one-over camera pans like a Bosley infomercial that shows some pretty meager coverage very quickly like a MTV video edit), Ive been given no excuse to get very excited?

If and when anything good is developed, the pictures and downloads of men running combs and hands through newly thick hair ALL OVER THE HEAD will tell us real developments have taken place....
 

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I cant see why is hair multiplication bad for the hairtransplant industry? If it was possible to get multiple hairs from less donor hairs, then I would definitely go for a transplant. So IMO hair multiplication would mean more business for the hair transplant industry, not less.
 

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I cant see why is hair multiplication bad for the hairtransplant industry? If it was possible to get multiple hairs from less donor hairs, then I would definitely go for a transplant. So IMO hair multiplication would mean more business for the hair transplant industry, not less.

It's bad because it's not a women's issue. Don't you know? Men's health is an afterthought.
 

hellouser

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It sucks real bad to lose hair as a man, but I think it is even worse as a woman. Why do you say it's not a women's issue?

You ever seen a woman with this kind of hairline?

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TheShining

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You ever seen a woman with this kind of hairline?
No. That doesn't mean that woman cant suffer from hair-loss though, a woman with this little hair would most likely have chosen to ware a wig. This guy can still get laid if he has money, power, humor, confidence etc. Beauty is still more important to a woman than to a man in average.
 

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No. That doesn't mean that woman cant suffer from hair-loss though, a woman with this little hair would most likely have chosen to ware a wig. This guy can still get laid if he has money, power, humor, confidence etc. Beauty is still more important to a woman than to a man in average.

You're missing the point; there aren't enough women with hair loss and there certainly aren't enough to a severe degree or to the extent of the picture I posted of a Norwood 7. You need to realize that the emphasis in health has been on women for a very long time, NOT men. If you were to have EvilLocks and the man in the photo I posted, both go into a clinic and ask for treatment against hair loss... who do you think would get priority? You think feminism has anything to do with the outcome... or perhaps the equal rights movement?

I'm not saying EvilLocks or that guy are more or less in need of a solution to their well being, they are both flesh and bone. But that apparently doesn't apply when it comes to health or hair loss. You'll never hear anyone say to EvilLocks 'Just shave it all off and own your baldness, be positive and have confidence.' That delusional shit is reserved for men.
 

TheShining

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If I was a doctor that could treat hair-loss and I had to choose between EvilLocks and that man I would definitely also chose EvilLocks because I think she suffers more.
However empathy and sympathy is not what drives research and investors forward. Money is.
 

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First off, I disagree with the part about Spencer Kobren. I do believe him to be a good and sincere person who does a lot to bring to light the plight of hair loss sufferers and trying to get the media to see hair loss as a devastating condition rather than comedic fodder.

But I've always thought that a lot of the hair transplant surgeons tried to do their best to lambast the field of hair multiplication. When asked about the prospect of HM, they almost always give ridiculously long timelines of when it be available to the public and are always quick to point out the hurdles and drawbacks associated with HM. And despite the fact that hair transplantation is really only a very niche market (only a small scintilla of hair loss sufferers even get hair transplants), these hair transplant surgeons never seem to make any effort towards innovation at all (unless it is another form of a hair transplant). IMO, they do this because hair transplantation generates massive amounts of money for them and HM would make their cash cow procedures obsolete. Nobody wants to lose money, especially the very large amounts that they are making. If a real form of HM became available, or even a superior treatment to the inferior options that we have today, it would put a massive dent in their profit margins.
 

2tite2014

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If HM becomes a major thing, wouldn't hair transplant doctors just adapt their practice and become HM doctors?
 
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