None of us know what will happen for sure or how any of the treatments in the pipeline will end up, but with that said, what do you guys think will be the state of affairs around 2020? Just curious to hear what you all think and hopefully we can have a discussion about it.
What Are Everyone's Opinions On Something Solid Being Out By 2020?
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30? A mere infant in my timescale. And from that perspective, I know you will beg for hair until your dying breath.
But, back to the point. By 2020, we will be able to confidently say there will be something coming out in the following five years.
Ok, it's Tsuji 2020. Pretty sure.
30? A mere infant in my timescale. And from that perspective, I know you will beg for hair until your dying breath.
But, back to the point. By 2020, we will be able to confidently say there will be something coming out in the following five years.
Ok, it's Tsuji 2020. Pretty sure.
My issue with Tsuiji is that it won't be be readily available to everyone because of location, cost, demand...etc. Maybe I'm being pessimistic here, but from the little I know I don't see there being any product out by 2020 which will be both effective and easy to get your hands on such as a minoxidil or a finasteride. I hope I'm wrong though.
I remember first looking up something about balding back around 2010, and everyone was so confident something would be out by 2015 lol.
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I'm seeing good, but slow, results on minoxidil and finasteride. Hair stopped falling, vellus hairs on forehead that I don't know if they will ever turn terminal and don't care at this point. I also have no side effects.
My point is that i'm trying my best to do something about it now. I have no idea what the future holds and when something great is going to come out again.
My point is that i'm trying my best to do something about it now. I have no idea what the future holds and when something great is going to come out again.
30? A mere infant in my timescale. And from that perspective, I know you will beg for hair until your dying breath.
But, back to the point. By 2020, we will be able to confidently say there will be something coming out in the following five years.
Ok, it's Tsuji 2020. Pretty sure.
So you’re an old baldie and haven’t learned anything with age.
2020 will be just like 2016 and now 2018,...no confirmed dates of any worth. Just dates of conferences and more scams.
This
It’s a cycle due to baldie desperation. Makes baldies feel happy and secured even if they know, deep inside, they’re fooling themselves.
You’re just like Toby from the office: Depressing to see and hear.
Why are you even here then?
Follica is planning a phase 3 later this year.
Brotzu possibly this year. (Don’t even try to tell me it’s a scam we don’t even know yet)
Shiseido later this year
Tisuji 2020
Fevipiprant 2020
Samumed 2020
There’s pretty much two guarantees here:
-For as long as there has been the capability to write there have been “cures” for baldness.
- One day there will be a cure for baldness.
Now the hope is that one of these solutions in the pipeline amounts to the latter or at least something close. Now obviously it seems a bit too much to ask that we will be the generation between the beginning and the end of time that are “saved”. But then every man between the beginning of time and the nineties lost the lead in their pencil and v**** proved the wonder solution. And we live in the most scientifically advanced age ever and tomorrow it will be even more advanced.
The notion that you should give up because nothing has worked before is a fallacy in itself. Nothing worked before because no one knew what caused baldness, scientists now know more about it than they ever had before.
-For as long as there has been the capability to write there have been “cures” for baldness.
- One day there will be a cure for baldness.
Now the hope is that one of these solutions in the pipeline amounts to the latter or at least something close. Now obviously it seems a bit too much to ask that we will be the generation between the beginning and the end of time that are “saved”. But then every man between the beginning of time and the nineties lost the lead in their pencil and v**** proved the wonder solution. And we live in the most scientifically advanced age ever and tomorrow it will be even more advanced.
The notion that you should give up because nothing has worked before is a fallacy in itself. Nothing worked before because no one knew what caused baldness, scientists now know more about it than they ever had before.
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I literally laughed out loud at this comment!
Yeah, there's a lot of potential out there, that's for sure. However, I've only recently been following hair loss cures since I've only noticed my hair loss since January of this year. Initially, I was in denial, and thought it was because of some vitamin or mineral deficiency, and it wasn't until about April that I accepted I was balding/receding. Each day I'm losing ground, and my stupid derm told me not to go on finasteride... I have another appt this week, and will get a prescription for finasteride. Even if 2020 brings a cure, I can't wait nearly 2 years because I'm losing ground each day. I just hope I'm a responder to finasteride! Fingers crossed, right? Even if it just stops my hair loss, or slows it down, I'll be somewhat happy... of course, I am hoping for the best lol.
Anyway, there's been some positive news on Tsuji and Follica recently, and Shiseido is supposed to be on track. However, Tsuji and Shiseido won't be available to the general public due to cost (assuming, of course). Also, they'll probably initially only be offered in Japan (again, assuming). I think 2020 will bring more positive news, but don't get your hopes too high. Set realistic expectations. If you plan for a cure the year of 2020, and it doesn't happen, you'll be disappointed. But, if you plan for a cure in say, 2028 (10 years from now), and it comes out in 2022.... well, you'll be THRILLED!
I just think it's important to set realistic expectations!
The same way normal people laugh out loud at your head
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Unfortunately, you are right... dang this stupid curse! If/when Tsuji becomes a reality, maybe I’ll be able to stop their laughing.
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Did the other kids on the playground do that to you Toby? Is that why your lashing out?
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Shiseido's RCH-01 is supposed to only cost about 1k USD. It will be available to foreigners based off of other cell therapy treatments using the same laws in Japan having already reached market from Phase II trials.
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That's awesome! Thank you for clarifying for me. Seems like most cost would be in travel/accommodation. I believe I heard somewhere that it would take 5-8 weeks to culture/multiply your cells, so it may require two separate trips... of course, there's no facts to back that up on my end.
If a cure did come out in the next 3-5 years, I could just imagine how great that would feel! I could only imagine how great it would feel for those suffering for a long time, and just barely hanging on. However, I am keeping realistic expectations for the time being.
I don’t have a sh*t life. I’m currently in the program Ive always wanted since I was a kid. I’m also only a NW1.5
But by the way you have been responding to everything sounds like you have a really shitty life. Sorry to hear that and I hope we get a new treatment soon so we all dont turn into negative lunatics.
You're posting on a hair loss forum, that's like throwing stones in a glass house.
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I'm usually an optimist around here, but do we have any hard evidence for:
- RCH-01 costing $1000USD - As an American, this seems crazy cheap for a medical procedure, especially one in really high demand
- RCH-01 being available to foreigners right away - Weren't people saying that this 2020 "release" is really a type of final trial that's available to the general public but requires regular follow-ups and thus can only be done by locals?