What Are Everyone's Opinions On Something Solid Being Out By 2020?

[Bagels]

Preventative measures are getting better. Restoration is still not great.

 

[ffar1989]

Why are you even here then?

Follica is planning a phase 3 later this year.

Brotzu possibly this year. (Don’t even try to tell me it’s a scam we don’t even know yet)

Shiseido later this year

Tisuji 2020

Fevipiprant 2020

Samumed 2020

Shiseido has potential to be THE CURE for Hair Loss, younger generation won't have problem with that.. But it is not cure in way that will bring you back teen density and original hairline if you already are bald. If this is truly going to work as it is to expected it will be no need for any Broztu, Fevi, Samumed, Seti and anything really, because problem of Hair Loss is going to be solved.


Tisuji may be useful for people who lost hairs already or are bald because some illness. Besides, I don't understand why people are so exiting about it anyway. Waiting time is going to be crazy as f***, and price is bound reach most of us.



I personally believe in Shiseido but I am putting my hope for it since 2011 and I remember saying back in days that 2016 will be problem solved and in 2021 people will have problem to choose treatment because it will be so much choice. But well…

If will be alternative to Finasteride until 2020(Fevi) we will be on good track. Most doctors won’t operate without this medicine anyway so it is hard choice. For me 0.25 for 15 days was enough to get Gyno... Proper surgery const ‎4k pounds. Imagine that... 15 days and 4k pounds from your packet if you want to have your men tits back :/

 

[razzmatazz91]

30? A mere infant in my timescale. And from that perspective, I know you will beg for hair until your dying breath.

But, back to the point. By 2020, we will be able to confidently say there will be something coming out in the following five years.

Ok, it's Tsuji 2020. Pretty sure.

How old are you?

And don’t be such a tease man, I know you’ve lurked this forum a lot. What do you really think about Follica, Shiseido and Tsuji?

 

[ffar1989]

Speaking of Follica anyway... What is the potential of it?? Are hairs that will grow back will be DHT sensitive? How long untill i need to get another injections? Everyone is keep talking about this as it wouldbe something GOAT... but i totally never understood this. Maybe someone will help me to understnad.

 

[coolio]

Follica is not the treatment that anyone wants, it's just the treatment that we need. They don't claim amazing results. But they are looking cheap, practical, and maybe the closest thing to market right now.

Their core wounding science is definitely capable of causing usable amounts of new hair growth. (This doesn't sound very impressive until you start counting up how many hair multiplication efforts have failed at it over the years - including the well-funded high tech ones.)

DHT resistance - not known. But your original balding hairs got blasted with very high androgen exposure for years while you were a teenager. Do you plan on shooting up with enough steroids to repeat that? Probably not. People who have produced new hairs via wounding (needling, etc) typically find that they last for at least a few years, if not more.

 

[JohnCena6576]

WAY-316606 holds more promise to regrow hair

 

[HNMB]

Follica is not the treatment that anyone wants, it's just the treatment that we need. They don't claim amazing results. But they are looking cheap, practical, and maybe the closest thing to market right now.

Their core wounding science is definitely capable of causing usable amounts of new hair growth. (This doesn't sound very impressive until you start counting up how many hair multiplication efforts have failed at it over the years - including the well-funded high tech ones.)

DHT resistance - not known. But your original balding hairs got blasted with very high androgen exposure for years while you were a teenager. Do you plan on shooting up with enough steroids to repeat that? Probably not. People who have produced new hairs via wounding (needling, etc) typically find that they last for at least a few years, if not more.

Any idea when Follica is supposed to announce Phase III results?

Also just because your follicles were exposed to DHT for years as a teen doesn't mean that they will last just as long as an adult. Look at people who start thinning soon after a hair transplant (i.e. Wayne Rooney).

 

[ffar1989]

For me Wayne Rooney is only proof for that, that rich people have no more(extra) knownage then we do about hair loss and hair transplant.

 

[mdmnota]

I suggest that next person that opens topic like this buys monthly supply of propecia to all members

 

[tomJ]

We are in the same position we were 10 years ago...gail naughton is on my sheet list.

 

[H]

In every thread in the New Research section this question is answered continuously. The hair loss community gets thrown a bone from different companys like 5 times a year and we debate this info and make predictions the rest of the year just take a gander at the other threads there's no lack of variety.

 

[cocona]

Right now I'm just waiting for follica phase 3s and samumed phase 3s to start.(Both are supposed to start this year.) As long as at least 1 starts this year i'll be happy. Other treatments are farther off atm.

Hair Follicle Primordium would be great but I am waiting with not so bated breath to see how it works out once they trial in humans. Assuming no more new engineering challenges pop up they might actually be released fairly quickly, but it still seems too good to be true.

 

[abcdefg]

I think there is a very realistic chance in 2020 we have exactly what exists now. Breezula, Seti, or something is needed though. We need some safer alternative to propecia especially knowing exactly how it works.
Someone should investigate WAY-316606 more. It might be bigger than its given credit for so far. cyclosporin has some of the most dramatic regrowth pictures of any treatment so far.

 

[Kevin19888]

For me Wayne Rooney is only proof for that, that rich people have no more(extra) knownage then we do about hair loss and hair transplant.

Why do people always say Rooney's hair transplant is bad? I think it's good. Yeah he's thinning behind but a lot of people have a NW1 hairline and have a thinning crown. Looks realistic to me.

 

[Taep]

Should we not expect a replicel? I think Sisedo is a big company and worth the expectation. Will it be next year?

 

[Roberto_72]

There’s pretty much two guarantees here:
-For as long as there has been the capability to write there have been “cures” for baldness.
- One day there will be a cure for baldness.

Now the hope is that one of these solutions in the pipeline amounts to the latter or at least something close. Now obviously it seems a bit too much to ask that we will be the generation between the beginning and the end of time that are “saved”. But then every man between the beginning of time and the nineties lost the lead in their pencil and v**** proved the wonder solution. And we live in the most scientifically advanced age ever and tomorrow it will be even more advanced.
The notion that you should give up because nothing has worked before is a fallacy in itself. Nothing worked before because no one knew what caused baldness, scientists now know more about it than they ever had before.

Correct
However, v**** was a lucky discovery.
They were testing the drug for something else when they discovered its effects on ED.
As it happened with minoxidil.
I wish the final solution to hair loss does not come from a lucky strike, otherwise we really have no control on the timeline

 

[Bigoldben]

Correct
However, v**** was a lucky discovery.
They were testing the drug for something else when they discovered its effects on ED.
As it happened with minoxidil.
I wish the final solution to hair loss does not come from a lucky strike, otherwise we really have no control on the timeline

Correct although finasteride itself was not created to deal with hairloss, and Brotzu discovered his lotion by applying it topically to help diabetics.

 

[tomJ]

Yea and brotzu is a joke too. He is right up there with Gail naughton saying their treatment is solid and ready to roll out in near future. People will say what ever is necessary for the mighty dollar.

 

[JimmyB]

Highly unlikely. There are realistically 3 options that could be available to the public based on their current FDA/trial statuses:

• Follica
• Samumed
• Replicel

Follica seems to be limping along in terms of progress. I doubt they'll go through phase III trials and release within 1.5 years considering nothing solid has been announced. Who knows how effective Replicel even is, and if it's worth traveling to Japan for. But based on current trial status, they have the most straightforward path to release since they don't need a phase III.

The only thing I can see potentially getting released in 2020 would be Samumed since they've explicitly stated they'll enter Phase III this year. And that is likely more like 2021.

Riken/Tsuji might be in trials then but unlikely it will be widely available, if at all, in 2020. There's always the chance of something popping up in a less regulated country (I think an international or serendipitous breakthrough is our best hope at this point), but who knows.

edit: I forgot about Seti and Breezula. Who knows how long it might be with how slow they've moved. And Seti might be getting sidelined for Follica.

 

[HNMB]

Highly unlikely. There are realistically 3 options that could be available to the public based on their current FDA/trial statuses:

• Follica
• Samumed
• Replicel

Follica seems to be limping along in terms of progress. I doubt they'll go through phase III trials and release within 1.5 years considering nothing solid has been announced. Who knows how effective Replicel even is, and if it's worth traveling to Japan for. But based on current trial status, they have the most straightforward path to release since they don't need a phase III.

The only thing I can see potentially getting released in 2020 would be Samumed since they've explicitly stated they'll enter Phase III this year. And that is likely more like 2021.

Riken/Tsuji might be in trials then but unlikely it will be widely available, if at all, in 2020. There's always the chance of something popping up in a less regulated country (I think an international breakthrough is our best hope at this point), but who knows.

Sounds like 2020 will roll around and we'll still have the big 3 as our best options.