What Has Prevented You From Killing Yourself?

[hairblues]

Never gets old (the picture):

And here's his gymcel bald equivalent:

Mike W who posted the comment also started a thread for side effects

so I think he's just having a 'come to jesus' moment of priorities for himself...understandable (as you yourself experienced) BUT not realistic for majority of people here.

 

[That Guy]

We are born bald, and we die bald. But for a brief period throughout our lives we have hair.

 

[nameless]

What keeps me from killing myself is HOPE/OPTIMISM for a cure.

Everytime the thought of suicide crosses my mind there's news about some potential breakthrough cure.
These days it's Tsuji and Kerastem.

 

[tellersquill]

What keeps me from killing myself is HOPE/OPTIMISM for a cure.

Everytime the thought of suicide crosses my mind there's news about some potential breakthrough cure.
These days it's Tsuji and Kerastem.

If I were to tell you there is no cure and that you will be bald in five years time, would you kill yourself?

 

[Dench57]

What keeps me from killing myself is HOPE/OPTIMISM for a cure.

Everytime the thought of suicide crosses my mind there's news about some potential breakthrough cure.
These days it's Tsuji and Kerastem.

How old are you? How long have you been bald? How long have you been waiting for a cure?

Cos the cure ain't happenin sonnnnn, not for at LEAST 5 years, best case scenario, assuming everything with Tsuji goes completely according to plan

From all your posts it sounds like you've been putting your life on hold waiting to "get your hair back"
Transplant is the only thing that can accomplish a significant aesthetic change for most people. That will remain the case for at least five years, and Tsuji/RIKEN are the first truly legit people that say that they can reverse baldness - still minimum 5 years away. What if it doesn't happen? Tsuji is not a sure thing by any stretch of the imagination. There's a very real possibility their treatment doesn't make it to market.

Also: Kerastem is a scam. It's bullshit. You should know that if you follow future hairloss tech? Tsuji is arguably the only legit person you can have faith in. You're talking about reversing slick-bald areas of scalp to full terminal hair regrowth? No company outside of Tsuji is even planning on that in the foreseeable future.

 

[tellersquill]

How old are you? How long have you been bald? How long have you been waiting for a cure?

He'll be waiting like that time my dad said he'd just nip out for a packet of cigarettes

 

[nameless]

If I were to tell you there is no cure and that you will be bald in five years time, would you kill yourself?

First of all, I would know that you could be wrong. But let's assume that you would be right and I knew you were right. I probably wouldn't kill myself but I would be a lot more depressed. And when a person's depression gets worse there's no telling what he/she might do. So maybe yes, maybe no. But I really don't think so.

 

[tellersquill]

First of all, I would know that you could be wrong. But let's assume that you would be right and I knew you were right. I probably wouldn't kill myself but I would be a lot more depressed. And when a person's depression gets worse there's no telling what he/she might do. So maybe yes, maybe no.

At least that's an honest answer.

When the chips are down, and it isn't looking too good, theres no shame In walking away from the game.

 

[nameless]

How old are you? How long have you been bald? How long have you been waiting for a cure?

Cos the cure ain't happenin sonnnnn, not for at LEAST 5 years, best case scenario, assuming everything with Tsuji goes completely according to plan

From all your posts it sounds like you've been putting your life on hold waiting to "get your hair back"
Transplant is the only thing that can accomplish a significant aesthetic change for most people. That will remain the case for at least five years, and Tsuji/RIKEN are the first truly legit people that say that they can reverse baldness - still minimum 5 years away. What if it doesn't happen? Tsuji is not a sure thing by any stretch of the imagination. There's a very real possibility their treatment doesn't make it to market.

Also: Kerastem is a scam. It's bullshit. You should know that if you follow future hairloss tech? Tsuji is arguably the only legit person you can have faith in. You're talking about reversing slick-bald areas of scalp to full terminal hair regrowth? No company outside of Tsuji is even planning on that in the foreseeable future.

Wrong!

* You yourself say that Tsuji could work and they claim they could be in the marketplace by 2020. That's 3 years not 5 years.

* Also, I'm 99% sure that Kerastem won't work since highly credible posters have gotten it and it didn't work on them. But it's still in FDA studies so I'm going to wait till trials are finished to draw a final conclusion. For all we know the Kerastem physicians that the posters here went to did the procedure wrong.

* Also, Pilofocus is in phase 3 studies right now. If it achives 100% quality donor regeneration then everything you said (in your above post) goes out the window since it would hit the market in mid to late 2017 and it would be a breakthrough almost as good as Tsuji's strategy.

 

[nameless]

At least that's an honest answer.

When the chips are down, and it isn't looking too good, theres no shame In walking away from the game.

There's no shame in walking away from the game when it's a certainty you will lose, but there is shame in walking away from the game just because the chips are down. Sometimes when things look bleakest a ray of light comes from seemingly nowhere. Don't walk away just because the chips are down.

I really can't imagine me killing myself. I'm a classic eternal optimist. If there's the slightest glimmer of hope I will see it, and I will start doing the things necessary to make it work for me. That's my nature.

 

[blackg]

He'll be waiting like that time my dad said he'd just nip out for a packet of cigarettes

Weren't there any shops open?

 

[Dench57]

and they claim

just gonna bold that part of your quote to let you understand why i'm not getting my panties in a twizzle just yet

when their P1/2 results come out showing tangible evidence of their claim working - that's when i'll get real excited

don't get me wrong - i believe Tsuji is legit, i believe he is the closest person to curing baldness there has ever been. but that's all it is right now - belief. i'm not setting my watch to it, i'm not basing the next 3-4-5-10 years of my life on my belief that i think he's cracked it. i remember you said you had $100k or so sitting in the bank so you're already in a better position than me - that sh*t is going to be crazy expensive IF and when it hits the market

lol @ carlos wesley's pilofocus though that guy is a shill and he's never provided empirical evidence of his technology being applicable to mass market

 

[nameless]

just gonna bold that part of your quote to let you understand why i'm not getting my panties in a twizzle just yet

when their P1/2 results come out showing tangible evidence of their claim working - that's when i'll get real excited

don't get me wrong - i believe Tsuji is legit, i believe he is the closest person to curing baldness there has ever been. but that's all it is right now - belief. i'm not setting my watch to it, i'm not basing the next 3-4-5-10 years of my life on my belief that i think he's cracked it. i remember you said you had $100k or so sitting in the bank so you're already in a better position than me - that sh*t is going to be crazy expensive IF and when it hits the market

lol @ carlos wesley's pilofocus though that guy is a shill and he's never provided empirical evidence of his technology being applicable to mass market

And if you wait until it's a certainty that one of these treatments works to start preparing then you won't be ready when the treatment hits the market. And by the time you do get ready to get the treatment there will be a very long line and you'll have to go to the back of that line. And since you really don't know whether or not Pilofocus will achieve quality donor regeneration I think I'll keep on preparing for the possibility that it might work. You see, if it does work I don't want to join you at the back of the line.

 

[hanginginthewire]

I read somewhere that typically for a suicide to occur three things are present:

1) The desire to die/end the pain (kind of a no brainier, yeah).

2) The desire to PUNISH someone (because suicide is often kind of AIMED at a person or even society generally).

And 3) The desire to KILL. Suicide may require a "killer instinct," or at least a level of aggression that could result in taking a life, even just your own. And when I read this I thought it made sense because #3 is what's missing in my case. Otherwise I probably would have, at least during depressive episodes in my life. So that's what's kept me from doing it OP.