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Ah yes, and of course you of all people know "the real translation" (TM), you who who is oblivious to historical context and picked up his information from hate sites and youtube. For sure the real translation would not be what Jewish people actually learn from.

In truth there are no perfect translations of these ancient religious texts, there's been some ~2,500 years of linguistic evolution since. Jewish people actually largely use translations and even sentence structure developed by Christian scholars from history.

Washing in Judaism means going to the Mikveh and bathing in rainwater. Going to the Mikveh, even among very religious Jews, is extremely rare (never heard of once a day), which is not surprising as they are not following your incorrect translations. Some do it once a week or once a month. Even in Israel, Jews live interspersed with the non-Jewish population.

You're reminding of this guy whom I made the error of listening to the other day:
In thirty minutes, he runs a tirade against fractional reserve banking, the 9/11 attacks, the moon landings, modern medicine, alcohol. He says that he knows the answers and other people "are waking up". There are a few good points interspersed within his garbage, but mostly he is far too arrogant for his limited knowledge. He is also living in Mexico because there's more freedom there than in the USA (lol).

But I think you'd do well to listen to him. Notice how ridiculous he looks when he arrogantly says that the moon landings didn't happen? That's how you come off.
Just think of it, why the term "Non-Jew" would be used in the same context as a dog or donkey or a pig. Just read the Talmud and you get what i'm saying.
 

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He also thinks Hitler was a good guy who was trying to warn us about the Jews.

So he's a a nazi communist Muslim.

I don't know man. He clearly sounds like your typical muslim who acts kind of normal publicly but thinks evolution is a scam and Jews are the devil. The typical moderate Muslim.

If I were you, I would discuss terrorism with him while recording him. If he snaps during the recording, hand the record to the police and give them his info. Or notice them anyway about him.

If you didn't already know: converts are the most dangerous and fervent of Muslims. Religious Muslims are like animals, and converts are like rats with rabies, ready to bite and with their mind clogged.

I really don't want you to suffer from PTSD when your cousin blows up Bruxelles because you could have done something.
 

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And about Banu Qurayza they betrayed Muslims and conspired against them to get them killed and when they were exposed 400 men of them who led the conspiracy were killed and one women because she tried the kill Muhammad (peace be upon him) and no children were killed or taken as slaves because Islam rewards anyone who frees slaves you f*****g twat. Your Jewish media is telling you to hate us and f*****g your heads with their fake, bullshit news and you believe them like morons. Use your f*****g minds and prove them that you're humans, not animals as they see you.

Watch your language. I didn't call you any names and I expected the same from you. Anyway, Sahih Bukhari contradicts your claim. As you might know Bukhari is one of the most authentic of Hadiths. Not a jewish media outlet.

Narrated Abd-Allah ibn Umar: Banu Nadir and Banu Qurayza fought (against the Prophet violating their peace treaty), so the Prophet exiled Bani An-Nadir and allowed Bani Quraiza to remain at their places (in Medina) taking nothing from them till they fought against the Prophet again). He then killed their men and distributed their women, children and property among the Muslims, but some of them came to the Prophet and he granted them safety, and they embraced Islam. He exiled all the Jews from Medina. They were the Jews of Banu Qaynuqa, the tribe of Abdullah bin Salam and the Jews of Bani Haritha and all the other Jews of Medina.

Mohammad was a cruel barbarian from today's standards.
 

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And about Banu Qurayza they betrayed Muslims and conspired against them to get them killed and when they were exposed 400 men of them who led the conspiracy were killed and one women because she tried the kill Muhammad (peace be upon him) and no children were killed or taken as slaves because Islam rewards anyone who frees slaves you f*****g twat. Your Jewish media is telling you to hate us and f*****g your heads with their fake, bullshit news and you believe them like morons. Use your f*****g minds and prove them that you're humans, not animals as they see you.

I respected you man, but I didn't know you were so Muslim. I thought you were a good man.
 

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Quran 9:3 to 9: 6

And an announcement from Allah and His Messenger, to the people (assembled) on the day of the Great Pilgrimage,- that Allah and His Messenger dissolve (treaty) obligations with the Pagans. If then, ye repent, it were best for you; but if ye turn away, know ye that ye cannot frustrate Allah. And proclaim a grievous penalty to those who reject Faith.

And if any one of the polytheists seeks your protection, then grant him protection so that he may hear the words of Allah. Then deliver him to his place of safety. That is because they are a people who do not know.

(But the treaties are) not dissolved with those Pagans with whom ye have entered into alliance and who have not subsequently failed you in aught, nor aided any one against you. So fulfil your engagements with them to the end of their term: for Allah loveth the righteous.

But when the forbidden months are past, then fight and slay the Pagans wherever ye find them, an seize them, beleaguer them, and lie in wait for them in every stratagem (of war); but if they repent, and establish regular prayers and practise regular charity, then open the way for them: for Allah is Oft-forgiving, Most Merciful.


One of several verses indicating the status of polytheists as worse than slaves:
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And do not marry polytheistic women until they believe. And a believing slave woman is better than a polytheist, even though she might please you. And do not marry polytheistic men [to your women] until they believe. And a believing slave is better than a polytheist, even though he might please you. Those invite [you] to the Fire, but Allah invites to Paradise and to forgiveness, by His permission. And He makes clear His verses to the people that perhaps they may remember.
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What the Actual f*** ? How can the first two verses be offensive ? And about the third one, back in the day like 1500 years ago in the Arabic countries there were some months when fight isn't allowed. There was a war between Muhammad, Muslims and the tribe of Qurayish. The order was to not fight back until those months are done and then we are allowed to fight not invade or anything. And about the last verse which made me mad as f***, it's actually a believer woman not a slave woman, your verse is fake. It simply says that marrying a Muslim woman is better than a disbeliever, how the f*** this is offensive ?
 

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I respected you man, but I didn't know you were so Muslim. I thought you were a good man.
Why this is a bad thing ? Tell me why you think Muslims are evil and i'm sure i can respond to your questions.
 

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I think that this rise of conspiracy theorizing among people like @Stanx22 is worrisome.

I can kind of understand the conspiracy theories as it's an attempt to make sense of a complex and cruel world. We're at a stage in history where Muslims are down, and that's difficult to deal with. It's also the case that some of the conspiracy theories are correct, the USA, Israel, Saudi Arabia, etc do in fact conspire to undermine the Muslim population in many contexts, for example the Libya war (we have a poster here, @ahmed wolf , who is from Libya and experienced the war there and saw the destruction and theft). Finally, it's also the case that the media often lies, which justifies not trusting the media though it doesn't justify believing that every statement is a lie.

Regardless though, most conspiracy theories are an irrational indulgence, and hate campaigns are an ineffective cope. It's not going to lead to productive change and development. You have to start with a correct understanding of the world. The problems with the Muslim world now include the legacy of colonialism, but it also includes the colonial administrators like the house of Saud.

I've seen Muslim fundamentalists attack Ghadaffi, Assad, and Hussein, but all three of them are benevolent relative to the house of Saud, who are now committing war crimes in Yemen.

Just think of it, why the term "Non-Jew" would be used in the same context as a dog or donkey or a pig. Just read the Talmud and you get what i'm saying.
I have an extensive religious education.

I also know a lot of Jewish people in the real world. Other than a handful of religious fundamentalists, they interact with non-Jews as human beings.
 

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Watch your language. I didn't call you any names and I expected the same from you. Anyway, Sahih Bukhari contradicts your claim. As you might know Bukhari is one of the most authentic of Hadiths. Not a jewish media outlet.

Narrated Abd-Allah ibn Umar: Banu Nadir and Banu Qurayza fought (against the Prophet violating their peace treaty), so the Prophet exiled Bani An-Nadir and allowed Bani Quraiza to remain at their places (in Medina) taking nothing from them till they fought against the Prophet again). He then killed their men and distributed their women, children and property among the Muslims, but some of them came to the Prophet and he granted them safety, and they embraced Islam. He exiled all the Jews from Medina. They were the Jews of Banu Qaynuqa, the tribe of Abdullah bin Salam and the Jews of Bani Haritha and all the other Jews of Medina.

Mohammad was a cruel barbarian from today's standards.
Cruel barbarian ? You know what Jews did to Muslims in the Medina or you're judging with no reason ? A fact : Muhammad actually died because a Jewish woman poisoned the food she gave him as a gift. You understand now ?
 

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Cruel barbarian ? You know what Jews did to Muslims in the Medina or you're judging with no reason ? A fact : Muhammad actually died because a Jewish woman poisoned the food she gave him as a gift. You understand now ?

In modern time enslaving women and children, no matter what the reason is considered barbaric, no matter what the reason. Are you trying to justify their enslavement?
 

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Why this is a bad thing ? Tell me why you think Muslims are evil and i'm sure i can respond to your questions.

Religious Muslims hate Jews, hate evolution theory, hate gays and transexuals, hate dogs, hate pork, hate everything.
I don't care if one is born Muslim but then follows Reason, and not God.
When a man is religious, he abandons Reason and starts to follow God. This blinds him with Hate.
Muslims are the most filled with Hate, and they follow mohamed like he was a perfect man.
The Muslim loves Mohamed so much that he almost looks gay.
 

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In modern time enslaving women and children, no matter what the reason is considered barbaric, no matter what the reason. Are you trying to justify their enslavement?
Slavery never happened. In Islam there's a reward if you freed a slave, people were buying slaves and freeing them, so they can take the reward. Your information are wrong, don't believe everything you hear.
 

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http://www.theamericanconservative....arian-catastrophe-and-the-saudi-led-blockade/
Yemen’s Humanitarian Catastrophe and the Saudi-Led Blockade

http://www.theamericanconservative....yemen-and-the-noxious-u-s-saudi-relationship/
The War on Yemen and the Noxious U.S.-Saudi Relationship

Cruel barbarian ? You know what Jews did to Muslims in the Medina or you're judging with no reason ? A fact : Muhammad actually died because a Jewish woman poisoned the food she gave him as a gift. You understand now ?
Not a fact, not demonstrated, and not relevant.
 

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http://www.theamericanconservative....arian-catastrophe-and-the-saudi-led-blockade/
Yemen’s Humanitarian Catastrophe and the Saudi-Led Blockade

http://www.theamericanconservative....yemen-and-the-noxious-u-s-saudi-relationship/
The War on Yemen and the Noxious U.S.-Saudi Relationship


Not a fact, not demonstrated, and not relevant.

You can't use Reason with the Muslim. If you realize and accept that religious Muslims are like animals, everything becomes way easier to handle.
You are talking to a wall.
 

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Religious Muslims hate Jews, hate evolution theory, hate gays and transexuals, hate dogs, hate pork, hate everything.
I don't care if one is born Muslim but then follows Reason, and not God.
When a man is religious, he abandons Reason and starts to follow God. This blinds him with Hate.
Muslims are the most filled with Hate, and they follow mohamed like he was a perfect man.
The Muslim loves Mohamed so much that he almost looks gay.
I don't hate normal Jews, i hate Zionists. And about the evolution all religious people hate it, it's not a secret. About gays and trans all religious people also hate them, it's in every holy book that they're sinners not only in the Koran. We don't hate dogs and dogs actually is proved to be clean, hate pork because we believe it's dangerous for our bodies, how that's everything ? And don't insult my religion or my prophet if you want me to debate with you. Christians adore Jesus and Jews adore the savior that will come at the end of the time and for whom they have been doing everything.
 

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You can't use Reason with the Muslim. If you realize and accept that religious Muslims are like animals, everything becomes way easier to handle.
You are talking to a wall.
We're animals ? Okay.
 

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Slavery never happened. In Islam there's a reward if you freed a slave, people were buying slaves and freeing them, so they can take the reward. Your information are wrong, don't believe everything you hear.
Dude, I just gave you a direct quote from Bukhari stating Mohammad did enslave those women and children. Do you not believe Bukhari? Why should Muslims believe you and not hadiths like Sahih Bukhari and Sahih Muslim that are among the most authentic Islamic scriptures?

I have a very simple question for you: Assume that Mohammad did enslave those women and children as indicated by Bukhari. Will you still justify it? Think hard and answer.
 

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f*** Saudi Arabia, as if i can give a f*** about it. I hate Saudi and gulf countries more than any other countries in the world.

Are you an Iranian by any chance? And yes I agree with you. f*** Saudi Arabia.
 

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You can't use Reason with the Muslim. If you realize and accept that religious Muslims are animals, everything becomes way easier to handle.
You are talking to a wall.

I do not consider religious Muslims to be animals. I know some in the real world, they're fine people, I have no problem forming meaningful friendships with them, going to their homes, etc.

The issues are that:
1) Excessive religiosity (fundamentalism) leads to insanity, and that's also true of judaism and christianity and mormonism. Wahhabism is a toxic branch of Islam with a lot of power. There are toxic branches within Judaism as well but they're less powerful so they don't matter. Within Christianity, you have lunatics who won't allow doctors to operate on their children, or to do blood transfusions, because it's "not God's will".

2) Bad Muslim leadership. If you look at Israel, the government funds art, science, and technology. In the Christian world, governments and rich people fund art, science, and technology. Now contrast that to the house of Saud. They fund technology if it means buying American weapons to kill Muslims, or buying German cars to ride around and have fun with.
 
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