"why I'll Never Date A Feminist", By Dave Hon

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On the money aspect... 2 good articles

Yup

Thats why I find Joe and Mika a little ridiculous in this 180 turn they did starting a few months back...
They were FRIENDS with him..sociolized with him..and HELPED to build him up as a legitimate voice when he first announced his campaign NOW they realize he is fuckign crazy??
People in NY have known he is crazy (really a personality disorder) since late 80s. (those of us around long enough)

They enjoyed the ride and now they woke up.

It is all the networks to do with money vs audience ratings --NBC just fired Greata Van Susteren for being too 'center'...So ALL their hosts unfortunately in my opinion lost some credibility and moral high ground.

(and you all know I am on left)
 

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Yup

Thats why I find Joe and Mika a little ridiculous in this 180 turn they did starting a few months back...
They were FRIENDS with him..sociolized with him..and HELPED to build him up as a legitimate voice when he first announced his campaign NOW they realize he is fuckign crazy??
People in NY have known he is crazy (really a personality disorder) since late 80s. (those of us around long enough)

They enjoyed the ride and now they woke up.

It is all the networks to do with money vs audience ratings --NBC just fired Greata Van Susteren for being too 'center'...So ALL their hosts unfortunately in my opinion lost some credibility and moral high ground.

(and you all know I am on left)


Agreed, and its so bad.
The freaky part is, though, that not only are the tv stars and stations all about $ and air time and the ratings... so is the prez
 

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I had a very similar discussion with one of my English colleagues here in Bristol yesterday, he told me quite the same thing, he didn't want the Brexit at all, but it happened, and he said British people have to accept it as it was a democratic decision, and just move on.

I am not really sure who is calling for Trump to be impeached other than Maxine Waters..I may be missing it but I have not noticed anyone really credible talking about impeachment proceedings.
Opinions talk show hosts? I am sure I can dig back into Sean Hannity or Tucker Carlsons file footage and find them saying outlandish things about Obama for 8 years...(he had terrorist links, he was not an american citizen, he is a communist, called a liar during his state of the union address, dummies that looked like him hung from trees)
 

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Agreed, and its so bad.
The freaky part is, though, that not only are the tv stars and stations all about $ and air time and the ratings... so is the prez

That is the scarey part to be honest...weatehr it is fair or not okay we can debate that...

But why does the President of The United States feel compelled to 'fight' with a talk show host?

It is either
1. he cant help himself because he does have some kind of obsessive personality disorder
or
2. he is crazy like a fox and wants to distract his base from scrutinizing his potentially deadly health care bill.
 

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That is the scarey part to be honest...weatehr it is fair or not okay we can debate that...

But why does the President of The United States feel compelled to 'fight' with a talk show host?

It is either
1. he cant help himself because he does have some kind of obsessive personality disorder
or
2. he is crazy like a fox and wants to distract his base from scrutinizing his potentially deadly health care bill.

ya,both

You know... I think he must feel very charmed. He says and does what he wants, no matter how outlandish or outside the norm, and has been consistently rewarded for it ... with ratings, then the election win. So at this point he must feel like, "if I want to say or do it, it's right", no matter what it is
 

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ya,both

You know... I think he must feel very charmed. He says and does what he wants, no matter how outlandish or outside the norm, and has been consistently rewarded for it ... with ratings, then the election win. So at this point he must feel like, "if I want to say or do it, it's right", no matter what it is

he has led a very charmed life but I think he is an unhappy soul who needs approval so this must be killing him that 60% of country dislike him...he probably cant accept it mentally and either dismisses it as garbage and untrue or avoids hearing about it..There is a reason he constantly has these rallies for his base as if he is still campaigning. He craves approval.
 
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You know... I think he must feel very charmed. He says and does what he wants, no matter how outlandish or outside the norm, and has been consistently rewarded for it ... with ratings, then the election win. So at this point he must feel like, "if I want to say or do it, it's right", no matter what it is

Because he's right. He is the king and he's getting 8 years. 8 years of my stocks utterly slaying under Republican tax policy and regulation cuts and 8 years of a meme sh*t-poster for president.
 

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Because he's right. He is the king and he's getting 8 years. 8 years of my stocks utterly slaying under Republican tax policy and regulation cuts and 8 years of a meme sh*t-poster for president.

Sure, if you do things like reverse a ban on a pesticide that is linked to damage of children's nervous systems, it might raise a stock. We all have to live with ourselves and I'm glad I didnt vote for it.
 

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Because he's right. He is the king and he's getting 8 years. 8 years of my stocks utterly slaying under Republican tax policy and regulation cuts and 8 years of a meme sh*t-poster for president.

Do you live in US? some reason I thought you were in France--maybe the name ;)
 

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Do you live in US? some reason I thought you were in France--maybe the name ;)

The name is an abbreviated film director reference from my typical youtube and dating screen name so if anyone from elsewhere searches it they won't see I've been on hair loss sites lmao. Actually an Aussie, but mainly in American stocks and stocks exposed to USD.
 

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Maybe one day, men and women will stop trying to eliminate the lines between us and realize it’s the differences between the sexes that make romance, family and love an enjoyable experience.

I was glancing over this part from the article

I have to say in my romantic relationships with men I am a traditional 'female' stereotype and them the male..this is different then in you work life and friendships.

I can't speak for other women but how I expect to be treated by strangers or aqueitances co workers is very different then in my personal sexual or romantic love life.

Not sure why he is equating the two here.
 

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When you guys read this article, do you appreciate the valid points made, or do you see the rantings of a lunatic?

Praise: It ain't all bad!
Well, his points where heavily opinionated, he clearly speaks from his own personal tastes rather then some abhorrent feminist personal experience, but there are objectively points that are made rather clear.Bravo you've done better then most rants I've read.

Noticeable Errors:
That being said your cherry picking information and showing isolated cases as if they effect the majority, then you go on making these isolated cases the overall key point in your broad conclusion. Noticeably beyond incorrect information on wage gap, societal issues, and prevalent culture your biggest mistake is assuming the current political land scape and their various ideals are negative to our wellbeing as a society; as a whole.

The Root:
You see you said, women have more freedoms then they have ever had, ever wonder why this is? Well, it's due to this "Feminist" who politically challenged a system that was designed to restrict them. They continue to do this, because frankly; the world is not perfect. Equality is still not a perfect system, and sexism, racism, and xenophobia run rampant in our modern age. These brave women are fighting against that, but as I just said no system is perfect, and a number of these "Feminist" are fighting in an incorrect way. This may be due to a lack of leaders and women in high places mobilizing the movement in a peaceful, but effective way. We need these leaders, these role models, to pave a way to the next generation as the generation before us attempted to pave the way for us. In this way, feminism is not a bad thing; perhaps a volatile idea, but not a necessarily bad thing.

"Identity" Politics:
Now another key mistake is not highlighting "Identity" Politics. This is where an individual picks a political position based on their identity, good or bad. You made references to a conservative group notorious as a hate group identifying with politics that restrict women and promote sexism. Identity politics, is a whole other debate and should be kept out of this one, but basically it's an attribute to human nature. Just like feminism, malism, and chauvinists, which may be something you should research in the future.

Glaring Issues:
Last but certainly not least your point that women are far more unhappy then they have ever been has little to do with your point at all! In fact this is a skewed study, and doesn't take into account many factors. Noticeably you will find many people are unhappy today, between late stage capitalism, and political decisiveness there are heaping loads of factors. This is cherry picking, note it. Not to mention your source is contradicted by many others, such as: https://www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/2016/may/18/womens-rights-happiness-wellbeing-gender-gap
Until a study, isolates a key factor such as the question: Is the feminist movement causing negative emotions in women. Either way this is an extremely difficult claim to study due to the amount of influential factors.

I hope you learned something, thank you for your time and have a wonderful day.
 
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Well, his points where heavily opinionated, he clearly speaks from his own personal tastes rather then some abhorrent feminist personal experience, but there are objectively points that are made rather clear. Bravo you've done better then most rants I've read. That being said your cherry picking information and showing isolated cases as if they effect the majority, then you go on making these isolated cases the overall key point in your broad conclusion. Noticeably beyond incorrect information on wage gap, societal issues, and prevalent culture your biggest mistake is assuming the current political land scape and their various ideals are negative to our wellbeing as a society; as a whole. You see you said, women have more freedoms then they have ever had, ever wonder why this is? Well, it's due to this "Feminist" who politically challenged a system that was designed to restrict them. They continue to do this, because frankly; the world is not perfect. Equality is still not a perfect system, and sexism, racism, and xenophobia run rampant in our modern age. These brave women are fighting against that, but as I just said no system is perfect, and a number of these "Feminist" are fighting in an incorrect way. This may be due to a lack of leaders and women in high places mobilizing the movement in a peaceful, but effective way. We need these leaders, these role models, to pave a way to the next generation as the generation before us attempted to pave the way for us. In this way, feminism is not a bad thing; perhaps a volatile idea, but not a necessarily bad thing. Now another key mistake is not highlighting "Identity" Politics. This is where an individual picks a political position based on their identity, good or bad. You made references to a conservative group notorious as a hate group identifying with politics that restrict women and promote sexism. Identity politics, is a whole other debate and should be kept out of this one, but basically it's an attribute to human nature. Just like feminism, malism, and chauvinists, which may be something you should research in the future. Last but certainly not least your point that women are far more unhappy then they have ever been has little to do with your point at all! In fact this is a skewed study, and doesn't take into account many factors. Noticeably you will find many people are unhappy today, between late stage capitalism, and political decisiveness there are heaping loads of factors. This is cherry picking, note it. Not to mention your source is contradicted by many others, such as: https://www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/2016/may/18/womens-rights-happiness-wellbeing-gender-gap
Until a study, isolates a key factor such as the question: Is the feminist movement causing negative emotions in women. Either way this is an extremely difficult claim to study due to the amount of influential factors.

I hope you learned something, thank you for your time and have a wonderful day.
Paragraphs please.
 

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Spacing yah, apologies I put too much effort in a single post anyway and was like screw it and just hit send :)
 

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Did anyone else click this hoping "Dave Hon" was actually David writing an actual article?
 

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Lmao what exactly is this proving? What's the protest even for?

The women's march was organized by the disgusting Islamist Linda Sarsour who also calls herself a feminist. Look her up if you don't know this c***. In the US there is an unholy alliance between some feminist groups, some gender right groups, some gay right groups and some black lives matter activists.I am underlining the word "some" as I don't really know to what extent the support exists. It might even exist in majority. Hard to tell. But it exists for sure. Basically Islamist's try to undermine any idea or people who they see as a roadblock in their quest under the garb of protecting other supposedly oppressed group. They enlist other "oppressed" groups as allies. These other groups unwittingly support abominations like Sarsour without realizing that they will be the first to be slaughtered in a world ruled by them. If these so called "oppressed" groups had some sense and would bother to look a world beyond them, they will probably see the light. But because they don't and have chosen Islamic monsters as their allies, they are our enemies in this war of ideas and they will NEVER have my support.

It might be hard for some of you living outside the US to see how vitiated the atmosphere here has become. Few years ago, I had a friend of mine publish an article raising valid questions over Islam in a public universities news paper. I was the main author of the article but it was published under my friends name as I wasn't a student of that university. CAIR(Council of American Islamic Relations) immediately issued a response to our article but instead of addressing content of the argument, they questioned my friends intent and called him racists against brown people as he is white. They accused him of supporting white supremacist group. The identity politics runs so deep here that your arguments, no matter how valid they are are rejected because you are nor of right color/sex/religion. Not only that, you will be called a bigot for making the argument.

In this poisonous atmosphere where you are called a racist at drop of a hat, all you can do is stop caring about these lables and speak your mind. If someone calls you racist, just smile and say thanks.
 
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