Working on perfecting my digestive system :)

[Jacob]

Has he been checked for them though? Might have missed it. I saw at Curezone one person responded to his cheap drug find...but he/she said they were looking to get a test to see if he/she actually had a problem first. My guess is..depending upon how bad you have it..you may need to take more and/or for a longer period of time in order to eradicate the buggers completely. Not something you can just guess at.

 

[Hoppi]

Has he been checked for them though? Might have missed it. I saw at Curezone one person responded to his cheap drug find...but he/she said they were looking to get a test to see if he/she actually had a problem first. My guess is..depending upon how bad you have it..you may need to take more and/or for a longer period of time in order to eradicate the buggers completely. Not something you can just guess at.

Heya again

Well, that's sooorrrt of true, but I think most people just tend to go on a complete treatment session for a certain parasite, a bit like you would take a round of meds from the docs.

So like, for flukes it's something like 2 weeks or so of prazi and albendazole or a few months of small doses of triclabendazole.


And anxious1 it's all very well sitting there and saying "oh no you don't have this and oh no you don't have that", but unless you can come up with a better explanation for my digestive system turning to junk in the space of about a month, I'll be following my own initiative I think

 

[anxious1]

anxious1 it's all very well sitting there and saying "oh no you don't have this and oh no you don't have that", but unless you can come up with a better explanation for my digestive system turning to junk in the space of about a month, I'll be following my own initiative I think

ur own initiative is flawed because u experienced symptoms, u came up with a theory, then u went looking for parasites, which of course u will find, because u want so badly for ur theory to be correct, and an answer for ur problems to be found.

the problem i have is u thought u had large parasites b4 u went looking by doing liver flushes, and then seeing things that 'looked' like parasites.

so u were already looking / hoping to see them. That makes u biased.

i've said take medications for worms, and take the samples to a pathologist. But if u refuse to do this but maintain u definately have these worms in ur liver, of course u will be met with skepticism.

just go get proof u have these flukes, before u fuk around with ur liver anymore. Get the proof, THEN i'll leave u alone.

 

[Jacob]

Hoppi...having been an IBS sufferer for quite a few years...researching everything about it..there are plenty of things that can cause your "digestive system turning to junk in the space of about a month".

 

[Hoppi]

Well I have my Fasinex now. Here goes nothing eh?

 

[Jacob]

I think to blindly treat yourself with something that is banned in North America is foolish. Listen to the advice Nephro is giving you. Have your doctor do a cat scan and check out your area of discomfort. Also taking medications that are regulated for animal use is scary. The testing done is not even close to what is required by law for drugs for humane use. I am glad Rules and regulations are so strict for humane consumption because it keeps us safe. I myself plan on living longer than a cow.

 

[Hoppi]

I think to blindly treat yourself with something that is banned in North America is foolish. Listen to the advice Nephro is giving you. Have your doctor do a cat scan and check out your area of discomfort. Also taking medications that are regulated for animal use is scary. The testing done is not even close to what is required by law for drugs for humane use. I am glad Rules and regulations are so strict for humane consumption because it keeps us safe. I myself plan on living longer than a cow.

I've done a lot of research lol


Here are two excellent pages:

http://curezone.com/forums/fm.asp?i=1475486

http://curezone.com/forums/fm.asp?i=1476146

 

[Jacob]

Hoppi...you must have missed what I've said about curezone. Although..I did post that the one person said he/she was going to get tests done before just blindly taking stuff like this :whistle:

 

[Hoppi]

Hoppi...you must have missed what I've said about curezone. Although..I did post that the one person said he/she was going to get tests done before just blindly taking stuff like this :whistle:

Tests always come back negative, even the ones that people took right before they took something like Tricla and saw tons of flukes being expelled. Even the tests where people put LIVE PARASITES on the sample before sending it in came back negative.

I don't bother with doctors anymore, I deal with my own problems now as much as I possibly can - I simply don't trust their tests.

 

[Jacob]

:shakehead: :dunno: :shock:

 

[anxious1]

ur going to take a liver fluke chemical for cows, based on this guy? i've highlighte4d the parts i find humorous. How on earth does he come to the conclusion that 'Ascaris that scattered to my lower legs, and they seemed to get amped up and cycle larva through my lungs more often and of a heavier volume now',

i give up hoppi, if reading nutjobs on curezone using animal drugs is wat u call research, then i give up. have fun killing ur liver with animal dewormers.

Sorry it took so long to write this Dariush. I know you have requested Fasinex reports before, but I wanted to complete the 4 months course of treatment before providing my results.
Fasinex kills Liver Flukes like nothing else. In 2 ½ years of parasite cleansing using herbs exclusively, I decided, on your recommendation, to order Fasinex from you. It was the best $50 I have spent trying to eliminate parasites. Just as you said, there were no side effects. The only thing I noticed was light colored stool for a week or so after a dose. My research of Fasinex’s side effects did not include liver problems, so I’m not sure why. My liver did hurt a bit for a few days after each dose, but that could be dying Flukes.

1st dose-Month 1
The day after taking it and for 4 or 5 days after, I passed 15 or 20 Flukes (total) in stool. The Flukes were of all stages from juveniles to adults. I have only ever passed the rolled up tomato skin type adults while using herbs. I removed none while doing a Liver Flush a week later.
2nd dose—Month 2
I passed no Flukes in stool and none with a liver flush a week later.
3rd dose—Month 3
I passed a few small broken pieces in Stool and none with a liver flush a week later.
4th dose
I passed no Flukes in stool and have yet to flush liver.

The only thing I noticed is that I have Ascaris that scattered to my lower legs, and they seemed to get amped up and cycle larva through my lungs more often and of a heavier volume now. Maybe they see an opportunity to fill a niche that was occupied by the Flukes? Any suggestions on how to eliminate disseminated Ascaris?

If you have Liver Flukes, I highly recommend you PM Dariush and get this stuff. You won’t regret it. Best to liver flush soon after a dose though. This stuff kills many at one time and it seems the liver could get clogged.
My best to you Dariush for finding this stuff and making it available. I live in the US where it is not available. Job well done!

Good luck to all

John

 

[Jacob]

:whistle:

I just recalled this in my digestive studies(ha) ..on kidney stones(I know the stones were discussed somewhere here):

http://www.medpagetoday.com/Nephrology/GeneralNephrology/8603

http://www.physorg.com/news123944082.html

 

[Hoppi]

Btw whose Nephro? lol

 

[GeminiX]

I'm trying to find a report where cleansing your insides was compared to a car engine.

Basically, the insides of a perfectly functioning car engine are messy, oily and greasy. Everything is slick and covered in gunky lubricant.

An auto-professional understands this and knows that's exactly how it's supposed to be; a novice might think it's dirty and will clean out the oil to make the pistons, cams and cranks shiny and new looking; sadly as soon as he then starts the engine it will cease and fail, probably catastrophically.

 

[Hoppi]

I'm trying to find a report where cleansing your insides was compared to a car engine.

Basically, the insides of a perfectly functioning car engine are messy, oily and greasy. Everything is slick and covered in gunky lubricant.

An auto-professional understands this and knows that's exactly how it's supposed to be; a novice might think it's dirty and will clean out the oil to make the pistons, cams and cranks shiny and new looking; sadly as soon as he then starts the engine it will cease and fail, probably catastrophically.

So... we're supposed to leave parasites in our bodies?

I mean regardless of what I saw and what I didn't, how can anyone believe that it's best to just get on with one's life as if there's nothing there?



Anyway, that aside, I actually have a really good feeling about this It's the first time I have taken something to treat something since all this started that I actually feel I've seen with my own two eyes, so in a way I'm quite excited to see if it works!


And seaback, come on man don't bash. You have no evidence for these things you're saying you're just desperately trying to make me look bad - you have no idea what I'm like as a person other than forum posts about my last year's struggle to work out what is wrong with my body.

The reality about me is I am a 25 year old University student in Canterbury in the UK, who cares a lot about his body and doesn't want to see it go down the pan. If you want to think bad of me that's fine, but don't spread what are essentially lies about me, ok?

 

[Jacob]

Btw whose Nephro? lol

See..again..I post something usefull..and you're on to something else. If it's not something you came up with yourself or didn't find on curezone..you're not interested. Although you have..eventually...either used or talked about some of the things previously mentioned. Hmmmmm

Nephro..let me just say...you probably won't find him at curezone :shakehead: (just Google the quote I posted)

 

[GeminiX]

My point is you should probably find out exactly what is inside you before you strip it all away and possibly do irreversible harm.

Hoppi man, look. I'm not trying to have a dig at you but consider your very own post history. Every couple of weeks you come up with a new idea and cure and start going on about how *this time it's the one, this time all your research is right* etc. This has been going on for a year or more, and yet *every single time* it has come to nothing.

Surely you have to see the sense in being really certain and getting a professional to back up your ideas before going off on yet another new idea and filling your body with cleansers and who knows what else?

 

[Hoppi]

My point is you should probably find out exactly what is inside you before you strip it all away and possibly do irreversible harm.

Hoppi man, look. I'm not trying to have a dig at you but consider your very own post history. Every couple of weeks you come up with a new idea and cure and start going on about how *this time it's the one, this time all your research is right* etc. This has been going on for a year or more, and yet *every single time* it has come to nothing.

Surely you have to see the sense in being really certain and getting a professional to back up your ideas before going off on yet another new idea and filling your body with cleansers and who knows what else?

I know, and you have to believe me if I trusted the doctor's to actually do real tests that would detect the parasites if they would there, and give me appropriate treatment(s) if they found them, then I would have gone in the last week, I did actually semi-plan to.

But I just don't trust them. It would all come back negative, the only thing that would happen is I'd have the discomfort of giving a sample, I'd be a week or two further along and I'd get patronized in a doctor's office for 20 minutes lol

It's just not worth it. They've told people on CureZone they were all bug-free right before a bunch of bugs come out.

And the ultimate joke is, they claim that it's all just "IBS IBS IBS" but that's not a real term is just an umbrella term that means NOTHING. Maybe if they did real tests they would see that what causes this IBS are usually parasites, gut flora imbalances, bacterial infections and bile cholesterol.

If they were ever actually capable of diagnosing and treating digestive problems without just dismissing everything without even really looking at it, I would follow them to the end.

Do you see what I'm getting at?

And I know I change my theories a lot. But that's because I'm learning, and very, very fast so ideas come and go fast. If you look at my path of theories though they're not random, they've followed a direction as I've taken apart my symptoms, worked things out and gradually moved closer and closer to where I think the heart of the problem is.

It drives me that that guy I advised noticed his male pattern baldness stopped when he stopped drinking green tea, and stuff like that. Hormonal fluctuations make or break this stuff, and there are a handful of common reasons for hormonal imbalances, the liver and parasites being absolute and complete #1, certainly in males (as of course with men things like pregnancy, periods and the menopause aren't there to cause hormonal shifts and changes). It is complex, but it's not THAT complex, or unsolvable

And man I love CZ! hehe

 

[anxious1]

the idea that pathologists are not identifying parasites in samples is ludicrous.

do u really trust these people on curezone over educated professionals?

Did u ever consider that some of these people on curezone are simply wrong about what they think are parasites.

In any case, i think if u took a jar with only these 'rolled up tomato skins', in it, u would get a definitive answer as to whether they are flukes or not.

by the way i accept some things doctors don't know much about, but at pathology labs there are mycologists(experts in fungi and yeast), and parasitologists, (experts in parasites), so i find it hard to believe they are failing to identify them.

in any case, i would get an answer for urself, rather than just not trust things based on others experiences.

remember hoppi, we are all hassling u only because we don't want to see u do something stupid to urself.

 

[Hoppi]

Well, I did take it, maybe 2 tablespoons in total (a little high but hey I'm still standing xD)

Erm, time will tell I guess. I haven't used the loo properly since so I haven't had a chance to see dead flukes lol

I also have prazi coming in the mail so I'm gonna take that as that kills other kinds of flatworms.

I know it sounds like playing with fire, but I've done a lot of research and all these drugs are very safe. The only one that is more of a gamble/risk that I am considering is albendazole (as it's a bit hard on the liver), but, you know, that's why I am less readily ordering some, and why I'll stick to the far safer ones at least for the time being