Would You Put 15 Yr Old On Dutasteride?

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I've now been able to speak to the clinic.

They've been working with Dutasteride for 15 years. When they used Avodart they did see sexual dysfunction problems. Compounding their own to exclude unnecessary ingredients and adding E blocker in line with individual's hormone profile solved this. They have not had a single adverse incident reported to them since.

They have had individuals come to them who did have adverse reactions to finasteride and Avodart elsewhere, who have had no problem on their compounded medication.
 

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And it's a topical solution ... curious to know their formula ...
 

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Wow sounds like quite the advanced clinic.

Never heard much about topical dutasteride. Anyone has some info on results with it?

@NzinOz What is the estrogen blocker than they are prescring?

This is pretty much an impossible choice. Does the clinic have experience with putting guys that young on such a regimen?

Yes, they have treated several 15 year olds. The oldest if which is now 19.
 

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Look at the science instead. At 15 your son is still developing, and probably will drastically up until 18 or even 21. I grew several inches in height from 14 to 18. My facial structure also changed significantly up until 21-22. DHT all plays a part in this. For reference, I started taking finasteride when I was 24, a year and a half ago.


Speaking to the clinic today, they say based on his bloodwork and dosage specific to him, they say it will not block all DHT, just an appropriate portion of it.
 

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@NzinOz ; i have researched the ys stop and regrow website , and indeed their method is a mixed of dutasteride and anastrozole .
quite interesting things . But why do they prescribe 0.7 mg of duta ( the standard dosage is 0.5 mg )
And you are not afraid to crash the E2 too much with 0.1 mg anastrozole daily ?
you wil take blood test ?

Their claim is medications are prescribed in line with individuals specific bloodwork profiles. I specifically asked, so you don't dish out the same amounts of active ingredients to everyone? No, we don't, was the reply. Bloodwork is checked regularly and changes to dosages made.
 

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You're lucky I wasn't your kid when I started going bald, I would have raised absolute hell until you got me a finasteride prescription.
And if you did, I probably would have let you. My kid is not raising hell, depressed, obsessed or even traumatised by this situation. He is autisic and operates on a different emotional level to average Joes.

He kissed me goodnight last night for the first time ever unprompted. I've only every requested it a few times throughout his life, taking his emotional needs cues from him. For him to choose to walk over to me and lay one on me speaks volumes. It speaks to appreciation of all we have tried to do for him, be it successful or futile.
 

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I don't understand how some think I am a troll or clinic rep? Synical to the extreme. Your forum must have a lot of trolls posting OPs for kicks, judging by the immediate reaction I got posting on here. Trolls have small lives.
 
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Some info for those interested, someone on here told me to view a link to a Stem Cell researcher, Dr Vickers in Sydney. Had a reply today with impressive pictures of successful regrowth.

The cost of his product is being halved in July as he rolls out production to a commercial lab (rather than producing his own. US$800 per year, and will post internationally. His product can be used in conjunction with other methods.
 

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Logically speaking, no, its not worth it to take these drugs.
But feelings don't give a sh*t about logic.

Read about people who have been taking finasteride for 8+ years etc, their hormone levels got fucked, Testosterone LOW (that of an old man).

And people claim you can fight baldness with natural ways, exercise, look on hormone levels and diet, blood circulation etc, why not give it a shot? (while taking finasteride maybe).

i only started to lose hair when i was at home and ate the same thing (rice and chicken, wheat/grains and milk, nothing else), got little sunlight (i had low Vitamin D), little exercise, but that was in a 1 year period, i couldn't do 10 squats without being exhausted and tired and i just felt like an old man (i felt like i had to sleep to recover from 3 sets of squats alone, f*** i was in bad shape), i had a bad sleep pattern too, used sulfate junk shampoo, never really ate fruits/veggies, maybe this caused my hair loss to begin?? My older brother has hair no problem(eats good now aka non-meat food, sleeps good, exercises) but oldest brother is a norwood 7 (he eats alot of meat, high cholesterol, does weightlifting).
Maybe male pattern baldness happens because of our lifestyle overall, look into the natural method/cause as well...
Maybe hair loss happens because of the sh*t we are surrounded with and eat, and emotions too, i know when i'm angry i get stomach pain, or when i don't eat enough my head hurts, or when i'm depressed i have low energy, maybe male pattern baldness is not just DHT's fault but several factors :)

don't feed your family with junk food, exercise, don't use sh*t shampoos, have a clean environment with fresh air etc, it doesn't hurt now does it? So why not try?

I know people are going to bash me here for the natural cause/treatment comment but, its a highly plausible reason(s), and my hair loss happened/began when i was in that unhealthy period, coincidence? i'm not sure.
Either way, i will try living healthier and seeing a dermatologist soon, he will probably be a another waste of time though.
 

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How painfully irresponsible must you be to encourage, let alone prescribe, Duta to a 15 year kid? 15! Never in a million years would I let my son go on Duta before he was a fully developed adult.

If you're determined to attempt treatment, consider giving your son Minoxidil. It has a much safer profile than finasteride/Duta and has given some people remarkable results.

Remember, there are no guarantees that Duta will solve your son's hair problems. Honestly, I would strongly suggest looking into a hair system. It's side effect free and will yield better results than Duta. Consider switching schools so that your son isn't "found out" when he shows up to school with a full head of hair all of a sudden.

Of course, another option is to just buzz it. I had a good friend go completely bald at 17 after receding since the beginning of high school.
 

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Logically speaking, no, its not worth it to take these drugs.
But feelings don't give a sh*t about logic.

Read about people who have been taking finasteride for 8+ years etc, their hormone levels got fucked, Testosterone LOW (that of an old man).

And people claim you can fight baldness with natural ways, exercise, look on hormone levels and diet, blood circulation etc, why not give it a shot? (while taking finasteride maybe).

i only started to lose hair when i was at home and ate the same thing (rice and chicken, wheat/grains and milk, nothing else), got little sunlight (i had low Vitamin D), little exercise, but that was in a 1 year period, i couldn't do 10 squats without being exhausted and tired and i just felt like an old man (i felt like i had to sleep to recover from 3 sets of squats alone, f*** i was in bad shape), i had a bad sleep pattern too, used sulfate junk shampoo, never really ate fruits/veggies, maybe this caused my hair loss to begin?? My older brother has hair no problem(eats good now aka non-meat food, sleeps good, exercises) but oldest brother is a norwood 7 (he eats alot of meat, high cholesterol, does weightlifting).
Maybe male pattern baldness happens because of our lifestyle overall, look into the natural method/cause as well...
Maybe hair loss happens because of the sh*t we are surrounded with and eat, and emotions too, i know when i'm angry i get stomach pain, or when i don't eat enough my head hurts, or when i'm depressed i have low energy, maybe male pattern baldness is not just DHT's fault but several factors :)

don't feed your family with junk food, exercise, don't use sh*t shampoos, have a clean environment with fresh air etc, it doesn't hurt now does it? So why not try?

I know people are going to bash me here for the natural cause/treatment comment but, its a highly plausible reason(s), and my hair loss happened/began when i was in that unhealthy period, coincidence? i'm not sure.
Either way, i will try living healthier and seeing a dermatologist soon, he will probably be a another waste of time though.

Bro you are right, but for many people, it's either take finasteride or go SLICK bald. Not have a norwood 3, hell even a norwood 4. It's norwood 6 and beyond. Risking neurological damage from finasteride sounds crazy, but the thought of being slick bald norwood 6/7 is giving me instant depression. My thought process is, if I take finasteride, I take a risk that may or may not screw me over. But if I do nothing, for sure I'm getting screwed.

There's no way to win.
 

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Another Kiwi in Aus, traitor... kidding

But if you are close to Sydney could be worth looking into this posted by @Georgie , it's a long shot & a bit pricey but who knows

https://www.hairlosstalk.com/intera...e-treatments-of-androgenetic-alopecia.113969/

Thanks for the link. It looks great. Anticipated annual pricing dropping to an estimated USD$800 in July thanks to contracting production to a manufacturing lab. The DropBox info Dr Vickers sent me was truly impressive. Up close photos of follicles springing to life, and moving through the phases over months to achieve relatively quick results. It's definitely one for the arsenal as can be used in conjunction with other methods.

His nutrition is another thing to look closely at, and he's joining a gym much to his disgust. Definitely not all doom and gloom around here.
 

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Bro you are right, but for many people, it's either take finasteride or go SLICK bald. Not have a norwood 3, hell even a norwood 4. It's norwood 6 and beyond. Risking neurological damage from finasteride sounds crazy, but the thought of being slick bald norwood 6/7 is giving me instant depression. My thought process is, if I take finasteride, I take a risk that may or may not screw me over. But if I do nothing, for sure I'm getting screwed.

There's no way to win.

Finasteride does not cause neurological damage.

Thanks for the link. It looks great. Anticipated annual pricing dropping to an estimated USD$800 in July thanks to contracting production to a manufacturing lab. The DropBox info Dr Vickers sent me was truly impressive. Up close photos of follicles springing to life, and moving through the phases over months to achieve relatively quick results. It's definitely one for the arsenal as can be used in conjunction with other methods.

His nutrition is another thing to look closely at, and he's joining a gym much to his disgust. Definitely not all doom and gloom around here.

Definitely let us know how that treatment goes. I am assuming that doctor will eventually want to spread into the American market since we are so cosmetically obsessed here Lol...so experiences would be great.
 

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Finasteride does not cause neurological damage.



Definitely let us know how that treatment goes. I am assuming that doctor will eventually want to spread into the American market since we are so cosmetically obsessed here Lol...so experiences would be great.


The Dr copied to me his answers to questions asked by an American. He's going to ship internationally. He also asked this American what he thought of packaging options, Aussies don't care and are happy with low-cost packaging, but women apparently expect high-end high-cost packaging. He's clearly in the final stages of bringing it to market.
 
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