Would You Put 15 Yr Old On Dutasteride?

[SteveTabernack]

Wow sounds like quite the advanced clinic.

Never heard much about topical dutasteride. Anyone has some info on results with it?

@NzinOz What is the estrogen blocker than they are prescring?

This is pretty much an impossible choice. Does the clinic have experience with putting guys that young on such a regimen?

 

[NzinOz]

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@NzinOz What is the estrogen blocker than they are prescring?

This is pretty much an impossible choice. Does the clinic have experience with putting guys that young on such a regimen?

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Anastrozole is the E blocker.

They've definitely got 18 year olds, and said hairloss at 15, although rear, is becoming more common. In my mind, 15 & 18 are quite different ages, one a child, one adult.

 

[NzinOz]

Topical Dutasteride ... never heard of it ... I'm really curious. But it will go systemic, for sure.
You're a very brave mom, I'm impressed !

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So the topical is not a good idea either? Poor kid.

 

[NzinOz]

Another Kiwi in Aus, traitor... kidding

But if you are close to Sydney could be worth looking into this posted by @Georgie , it's a long shot & a bit pricey but who knows

https://www.hairlosstalk.com/intera...e-treatments-of-androgenetic-alopecia.113969/

I'd personally say stay away from dutasteride / finasteride especially at his age, I took finasteride at 21 & couldn't get boners after a month hardly, that was far more devastating than hair loss for me. Luckily after stopping finasteride I was able to go back to normal more or less, but some poor bastards remain impotent. Guess the topical could be OK but do we even know if it goes systematic or not?

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I really appreciate your honesty and opinions. It confirms what I know in my heart, taking the drug is not worth it.

I've told him to keep up the 3 hourly protein the doctor wants him eating, and keep up the body rattling amount of vitamins/supplements we started him on a couple of weeks ago when his hair started dropping, and come to grips with the loss.

 

[real kombo]

Our son will be severely bald fast if we do nothing - which feels sh*t. He's been prescribed 0.7 mg Dutasteride & 0.1 Estrogen blocker, plus topical Dutasteride. There is so much horror on the net, but the clinic insist they have had zero problems with libido etc, and I think the key there is the Estrogen blocker. It's just bloody hard to be a Mum making these decisions with the potential to get it so very wrong, I am happy going one way (treatment) and miserable the next. No treatment feels sh*t too. No amount of zinc or Biotin etc will save him from his fathers male pattern baldness level 7 which happened in a few short months at 26. DS's hair started thinning 14.5 years, but really lost the plot a few weeks ago at 15 & 3 mths.

YES, YOU MUST START YOUR KID ON FINASTERIDE ASAP. I started going bald at 16, 16!!!! I immediately jumped on finasteride and minoxidil and still have most of my hair to this day. Everyone at the time warned against it, THANK GOD I DIDN'T LISTEN TO THEM. I'd be a NW7 by now.

 

[real kombo]

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Anastrozole is the E blocker.

They've definitely got 18 year olds, and said hairloss at 15, although rear, is becoming more common. In my mind, 15 & 18 are quite different ages, one a child, one adult.

With all due respect, this is delusional. Do you think when you turn 18 you all of a sudden learn about the world? No. Baldness can start young, whether or not someone gets side effects depends on the individual, not age. I've been taking 1mg of finasteride every single day for 4 years, starting at 16. I'm 20 now. It SAVED my hair.

 

[NzinOz]

Another Kiwi in Aus, traitor... kidding

But if you are close to Sydney could be worth looking into this posted by @Georgie , it's a long shot & a bit pricey but who knows

https://www.hairlosstalk.com/intera...e-treatments-of-androgenetic-alopecia.113969/
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Thank you for this link. This does not look as successful as dutasteride, but without the potential for side effects it makes it a winning option. I've emailed them for info. My only hope for my son is that he can maintain some hair until he is a few years older. No kid deserves this so young, adults are shocked, his peers no doubt will be cruel on occasion, but at least with a smattering of hair he would be less of a target to the drop-kicks of the world.

 

[real kombo]

I think it's awful that you are LOOKING for a reason not to give your son the meds he needs.


It's your choice.....but don't think that in a few years he'll all of a sudden be able to regrow everything he lost. It's simply impoosible. Nearly all treatments are based on prevention.

 

[NzinOz]

YES, YOU MUST START YOUR KID ON FINASTERIDE ASAP. I started going bald at 16, 16!!!! I immediately jumped on finasteride and minoxidil and still have most of my hair to this day. Everyone at the time warned against it, THANK GOD I DIDN'T LISTEN TO THEM. I'd be a NW7 by now.[/QUOT
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Wow, the only pro response. The doctor he saw is against finasteride & minoxidil on the basis they don't work as well (or at all for some) allowing the slow loss to continue, so that when you reach the 10 year or so mark a lot of follicles are dead. Dead, in his opinion cannot be retrieved, dying he can get going again.

So was it your own decision at 16? Did your parents have an opinion? Were you aware at the time of the potential for sexual dysfunction.

So incredibly glad it worked for you BTW.

 

[Timii]

Our son will be severely bald fast if we do nothing - which feels sh*t. He's been prescribed 0.7 mg Dutasteride & 0.1 Estrogen blocker, plus topical Dutasteride. There is so much horror on the net, but the clinic insist they have had zero problems with libido etc, and I think the key there is the Estrogen blocker. It's just bloody hard to be a Mum making these decisions with the potential to get it so very wrong, I am happy going one way (treatment) and miserable the next. No treatment feels sh*t too. No amount of zinc or Biotin etc will save him from his fathers male pattern baldness level 7 which happened in a few short months at 26. DS's hair started thinning 14.5 years, but really lost the plot a few weeks ago at 15 & 3 mths.

Norwood stage? How can you be sure it is so aggressive that you already need duta on a 15 year old? Set money aside for Shiseido and let's all pray that it's coming out next year

 

[NzinOz]

I think it's awful that you are LOOKING for a reason not to give your son the meds he needs.


It's your choice.....but don't think that in a few years he'll all of a sudden be able to regrow everything he lost. It's simply impoosible. Nearly all treatments are based on prevention.

We're fully aware now is the hour for action, and gone is gone. It is why we were prepared to spend thousands seeking help. The clinic purported to work with your hormone imbalances/DNA, it was not until we received the medication that Dutasteride was ever mentioned, and they have certainly downplayed any risk.

This is a situation that has come about rapidly. Literally his hair dropped at his temples in days. I feel it would be irresponsible for me as a parent not to consider his sexual health when it will reduce his sperm numbers by 30%, and have a risk of affecting libido & ability to get erect, that's before you consider he is not an adult in body yet, or the potential for liver issues etc. I'd say he's got at least 2-4 inches in height coming his way. His GP is concerned with the potential to trigger testicular cancer in a developing body.

This forum has a wealth of knowledge, tapping into it could be an astute move.

 

[Timii]

if you use dutasteride on a 15 yo you will probably end up with a kid suffering from even more insecurities due to a small member and a myriad of sexual issues. If you think bald is bad wait till you see people plagued with a myriad of side effects due to 5ar inhibition. For the love of god let him develop first

Definitely agree. I would never give my son dutasteride. It will stunt his growth, hell, I even thought it was illegal to prescribe duta to teenagers

 

[real kombo]

Thank you for your well wishes, I apologize if my initial response was overly aggressive.

My parents were worried but understood how devastated I was, ultimately it was my decision. They tried to talk me out of it by citing the potential side effects. I asked for help on here, bitter people who had not acted early enough in their hair loss had tried to put the fear of God into me, telling me I'd lose my sex drive, no erections, etc.

In my head I said f*** them and went with my gut and I was right. No sexual side effects at all. I an just as horny as I was before taking it.

I think I was more horrified of what being bald would look like at 16 than I was of losing my sex drive.

I can agree with the previous posts that starting out on dutasteride may be a bit much. I would say finasteride is a solid, effective, FDA- approved middle ground that can be accompanied with over the counter minoxidil.

 

[NzinOz]

Norwood stage? How can you be sure it is so aggressive that you already need duta on a 15 year old? Set money aside for Shiseido and let's all pray that it's coming out next year

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I'd say Norwood 3 but with no bald spot at the crown. I can't be sure it is agressive, other than witnessing a massive fall 3 weeks ago where he went from obviously thinning to me (but his father hadn't noticed) to square inches missing in days, and knowing his father went from a full head of hair to Norwood 7 in a few short months. His microscopic inspection says his follicles are dying.

 

[sktboiboi]

his genitalia is still developing and he's gonna need all the DHT's he gonna get for that. wait ill he's 20-21 when it's safer to assume he has grown to his max, genetically-programmed potential ever.

All genitalia growth spurts occurs only in puberty(except surgical 'enlargement' procedures if they work) and the results are permanent.

im sure no parent would want their son to have a smaller-than genetically-determined d**k for the rest of his life.

There's 1 post stating his/my dick is already big enough- my question is:


is money ever enough?? are u satisfied to earn a certain sum of money, and then declare 'it's enough'?

 

[real kombo]

We're fully aware now is the hour for action, and gone is gone. It is why we were prepared to spend thousands seeking help. The clinic purported to work with your hormone imbalances/DNA, it was not until we received the medication that Dutasteride was ever mentioned, and they have certainly downplayed any risk.

This is a situation that has come about rapidly. Literally his hair dropped at his temples in days. I feel it would be irresponsible for me as a parent not to consider his sexual health when it will reduce his sperm numbers by 30%, and have a risk of affecting libido & ability to get erect, that's before you consider he is not an adult in body yet, or the potential for liver issues etc. I'd say he's got at least 2-4 inches in height coming his way. His GP is concerned with the potential to trigger testicular cancer in a developing body.

This forum has a wealth of knowledge, tapping into it could be an astute move.

I'd caution against putting too much stock in the general consensus of hair loss forums. I know that may seem like counter-productive advice, but please understand that a significant minority of the users of this website, if not maybe even a plurality, are in the extreme minority of these drugs being ineffective and/or counter productive to them.


The overwhelming majority of people who have success on hair loss drugs go about their lives and do not go on hairloss websites to discuss because their situation is settled.


The ones who have it the worst are the ones that linger around, telling people horror stories to scare them out of doing these drugs.

If you do decide to start your son on finasteride and minoxidil (which I HIGHLY reccomend) understand these drugs take a while to work. So in the extremely rare occasion your son experiences side effects (and I can't stress how rare such an event would be) you'd be able to immediately take him off the drug, and side effects would cease.


I took a shot at about 45-50% of all HairLossTalk.com users in this post, so I'm expecting a tsunami of dislikes.....but please take what I say into consideration

 

[real kombo]

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I'd say Norwood 3 but with no bald spot at the crown. I can't be sure it is agressive, other than witnessing a massive fall 3 weeks ago where he went from obviously thinning to me (but his father hadn't noticed) to square inches missing in days, and knowing his father went from a full head of hair to Norwood 7 in a few short months. His microscopic inspection says his follicles are dying.

I'd have your son take a blood test to make sure he doesn't have any hormone or chemical related deficiencies. There are alot of other things that can make hair fall out and at the very least it's worth checking.

 

[Timii]

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I'd say Norwood 3 but with no bald spot at the crown. I can't be sure it is agressive, other than witnessing a massive fall 3 weeks ago where he went from obviously thinning to me (but his father hadn't noticed) to square inches missing in days, and knowing his father went from a full head of hair to Norwood 7 in a few short months. His microscopic inspection says his follicles are dying.

Jesus Christ... Is that even normal male pattern baldness? It seems impossible to me to have such a degree of aggressivity at a such young age considering his father's hair loss situation. Obviously I would never recommend anyone to take dutasteride or even finasteride, I would first try lighter treatment but if his hair loss is that aggressive, it would only be a waste of time. His only hope is Shiseido coming out next year, get off duta and reacquire normal DHT levels in order to fully develop

 

[NzinOz]

Thank you for your well wishes, I apologize if my initial response was overly aggressive.

My parents were worried but understood how devastated I was, ultimately it was my decision. They tried to talk me out of it by citing the potential side effects. I asked for help on here, bitter people who had not acted early enough in their hair loss had tried to put the fear of God into me, telling me I'd lose my sex drive, no erections, etc.

In my head I said f*** them and went with my gut and I was right. No sexual side effects at all. I an just as horny as I was before taking it.

I think I was more horrified of what being bald would look like at 16 than I was of losing my sex drive.

I can agree with the previous posts that starting out on dutasteride may be a bit much. I would say finasteride is a solid, effective, FDA- approved middle ground that can be accompanied with over the counter minoxidil.

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It is my understanding that finasteride has the same side effects and post-finasteride-syndrom is gaining traction with the press & FDA.

I'm obviously not a bloke, but in my teenage years if I had a dangling appendage it would be lucky if it was ever given a break. I believe my son has a below average libido as it is. Self-servicing twice a week (we had to ask, his current sexual health was part of a health questionnaire). When I raised my concern about that with his GP, he said it was not necessarily low. I was shocked, as it is not the impression I've had from young guys in the past. Interestingly, hubby said his libido was similar but he put it down to playing a lot of sport and not having the energy. Interestingly, his libido improved to what I would call "always up fror it" and what I would consider normal once he lost all his hair.

I just don't know if this current low-drive is a signal he will be in the reported 1.4%, which anecdotally could be a bigger group.

 

[Timii]

I'd caution against putting too much stock in the general consensus of hair loss forums. I know that may seem like counter-productive advice, but please understand that a significant minority of the users of this website, if not maybe even a plurality, are in the extreme minority of these drugs being ineffective and/or counter productive to them.


The overwhelming majority of people who have success on hair loss drugs go about their lives and do not go on hairloss websites to discuss because their situation is settled.


The ones who have it the worst are the ones that linger around, telling people horror stories to scare them out of doing these drugs.

If you do decide to start your son on finasteride and minoxidil (which I HIGHLY reccomend) understand these drugs take a while to work. So in the extremely rare occasion your son experiences side effects (and I can't stress how rare such an event would be) you'd be able to immediately take him off the drug, and side effects would cease.


I took a shot at about 45-50% of all HairLossTalk.com users in this post, so I'm expecting a tsunami of dislikes.....but please take what I say into consideration

It's really not about the side effects, that's barely the problem. It's about the lack of DHT that will hinder his growth. Also it's important that OP mother doesn't mention any side effects to his son in order to avoid nocebo effects