Would You Put 15 Yr Old On Dutasteride?

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Sorry for some of the responses on here, some people can be rude and cynical due to what goes on around here.

Anyway as for as I know there hasn't been any studies done on teenagers going through puberty using dutasteride. As for your concerns about using the topical so it doesn't go systemic I'm afraid it wont help, most vehicles aren't made to keep drugs located in the dermis. Dutasteride stops the creation of DHT in the body by a very large percent. The issue with that in regards to males under going puberty is that DHT is important. I would be weary about putting a guy on something like that even if its a low dose. Also dutasteride along with finasteride can inhibit certain neurosteroids in the brain that can cause side effects in some users such as depression, brain fog, and lack of rest full sleep.

Honestly in your son's case minoxidil alone probably wont help him but it is worth a try. If anything try a low dose of finasteride before dutasteride. Dutasteride is considered a last measure when nothing else works

Thanks so much for a well considered response. It is nice to know someone sees my concerns thoroughly. I'm keen to find out more about the zinc spray developed in Sydney someone suggested. In all the circumstances it could be a better option for my son.
 

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With all due respect, this is delusional. Do you think when you turn 18 you all of a sudden learn about the world? No. Baldness can start young, whether or not someone gets side effects depends on the individual, not age. I've been taking 1mg of finasteride every single day for 4 years, starting at 16. I'm 20 now. It SAVED my hair.
With all due respect, this is delusional. Do you think when you turn 18 you all of a sudden learn about the world? No. Baldness can start young, whether or not someone gets side effects depends on the individual, not age. I've been taking 1mg of finasteride every single day for 4 years, starting at 16. I'm 20 now. It SAVED my hair.
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Of course you aren't magically an adult at 18 or any number. I'm going off what his GP said in that he is not fully grown internally for another three years. He really did attempt to put the wind up me today about triggering testicular cancer etc with interferring with his natural flow of testosterone whilst still a child.

I also know, although he is an adult height at the moment he has a lot more growing to do. The fear is the impact of either drug on a developing body when neither has stellar reputations on mature bodies.

Another thing to consider is the affect on his brain. He has high-functioning-autism, has completed three years of cognitive therapy and doing so well at school. Could the sudden lack of DHT impact on his brain function? It's an unknown, as either drug have reputations for affecting chemical mood.
 

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I'd caution against putting too much stock in the general consensus of hair loss forums. I know that may seem like counter-productive advice, but please understand that a significant minority of the users of this website, if not maybe even a plurality, are in the extreme minority of these drugs being ineffective and/or counter productive to them.


The overwhelming majority of people who have success on hair loss drugs go about their lives ...

I am so with you there! I myself have health issues and take a drug for off-label use. Without it I would struggle to walk. It is a miracle for the vast majority of users but if you go on forums they seem to magically pinpoint every headache or trots to its use.

It seems like such a rock and hard place. I have no doubt the doctor would not have handed over the drugs if he felt they would be detrimental to my son, but they may well be and the current storm of post-finasteride-syndrome contravesy taints all reductase blockers.

When it comes down to it, his life is not at risk by male pattern baldness even though it may well have a huge impact on it. I do value the input I have had, positive & negative (troll aside). It is all valuable food for thought as we weigh up whether hair is worth this stress and potential for side effects. He's 4 days into treatment, and feels fine but is also not the most self-aware bloke you'll come across. I don't regret allowing us more time to consider this before a video consult on Saturday.
 

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It's really not about the side effects, that's barely the problem. It's about the lack of DHT that will hinder his growth. Also it's important that OP mother doesn't mention any side effects to his son in order to avoid nocebo effects

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That's the thing about sexual dysfunction, man or woman, so much is in the brain. If you think you premature ejaculate, you will; if you think you can't get it up, you won't; if you think you can't climax or fully connect, you won't. It makes it easy to write off a percentage of the 1.4%, or a particular study based around those who had dysfunction before the drug, but when you read a study that involves young men with no prior history and 3 or 4 years later they still can't function, you question your belief that it is a placebo situation, and you know not one of those men would choose to take the pill again..
 

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Jesus Christ... Is that even normal male pattern baldness? It seems impossible to me to have such a degree of aggressivity at a such young age considering his father's hair loss situation. Obviously I would never recommend anyone to take dutasteride or even finasteride, I would first try lighter treatment but if his hair loss is that aggressive, it would only be a waste of time. His only hope is Shiseido coming out next year, get off duta and reacquire normal DHT levels in order to fully develop

Unfortunately no doctor that has seen him with his father has questioned it being anything but straight MBP. We've been told high cortisol can kick it in early. His cortisol levels were not high when tested, but he operates in general in a tense way in his body, holding himself stiffly. He's a laid back person in general, but things do wind him up on occasion. He won the genetic lottery with smarts & height, and bummed out with male pattern baldness.

After that first bulk fall, it seemed to stop. Whether it will come out again in noticable chunks, or just disappear evenly, who knows. His father is almost 60 and only remembers his own hair loss was shockingly quick.
 

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honestly putting a 15 yo kid on dutasteride is just madness !
they said there were no sides with duta ??? why using a dosage of 0.7 mg ?
 

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I'd have your son take a blood test to make sure he doesn't have any hormone or chemical related deficiencies. There are alot of other things that can make hair fall out and at the very least it's worth checking.


He's had full testing of thyroid function, hormones and 15 other blood tests.
 

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wait , and they also prescribed anastrozole to counteract the sides of duta ???
wow this is quite a scientific experiment !
what is the dosage of anastrozole per week ?
 

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honestly putting a 15 yo kid on dutasteride is just madness !
they said there were no sides with duta ??? why using a dosage of 0.7 mg ?

They said that although of-the-shelf has a certain reputation, their compounded version has never had any client complain of loss of libido etc.
 

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they used a topical version or oral version ?
they said there were no sides with the oral version ?
 

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they used a topical version or oral version ?
they said there were no sides with the oral version ?
Said their compounded oral version has had no reported side-effects in all the years of use.

He was also given a topical foam for his scalp containing dutasteride
 

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ok i dont like the idea of finasteride/ dutasteride on a developing male , but this is plain scare mongering going on in here .
forums are the place to look for options , not learn about the safety of drugs , people who are doing fine on finasteride dont lurk around in forums , only people who get sides do
I m also pretty confident that noone in here is a doctor who has studied about the impact of hormones on teenagers , people just tell you what they believe according to broscience and try to pass it off as a medical fact
The best thing you should do is ask a specialist about it , endocrinologists and urologists should know how a kid is gonna get affected
 

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does this clinic have a website ?
i have never heard of a counpound duta/anastrozole !
so they admit that one of the side effect is gynecomastia if they prescribe anastrozole
 

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ok i dont like the idea of finasteride/ dutasteride on a developing male , but this is plain scare mongering going on in here .
forums are the place to look for options , not learn about the safety of drugs , people who are doing fine on finasteride dont lurk around in forums , only people who get sides do
I m also pretty confident that noone in here is a doctor who has studied about the impact of hormones on teenagers , people just tell you what they believe according to broscience and try to pass it off as a medical fact
The best thing you should do is ask a specialist about it , endocrinologists and urologists should know how a kid is gonna get affected
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Love the phrase broscience. You are right, professionals would give us answers (of a sort). I doubt any doctor would be prepared to flat out say there is no risk or potential affect.
 
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does this clinic have a website ?
i have never heard of a counpound duta/anastrozole !
so they admit that one of the side effect is gynecomastia if they prescribe anastrozole

Yep. The effect of Estrogen increases without DHT, thus they pre-empt it.
 

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you seem to know your topic quite well .
so the clinic doesnt have any website ? really interested by the coupond oral version of duta / arimidex
 

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does this clinic have a website ?

Yes. It makes no mention of the drugs they use. I phoned them and asked questions. I said Propecia/Rogaine were our only options at clinics here, and I did not feel they were suitable for such a young man.

The website say they work with your own bio profile to address hormone/enzyme issues. We literally had no idea what the planned protocol was chemically until my husband received it.

My husband said others in the waiting room had chosen it as the most natural solution. So, we weren't alone in thinking we were on to something different. It shocked me when he brought home Dutasteride.
 

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Hi NzinOz,

Have you had his DHT levels checked?
My thinking here is if his DHT levels are through the roof for his age, maybe anti androgens won't be so bad? (Most people suffering male pattern baldness have normal DHT levels but are just more sensitive to DHT) but at his age this may be a special case?
 

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you seem to know your topic quite well .
so the clinic doesnt have any website ? really interested by the coupond oral version of duta / arimidex


My husband was under the impression it made it safer. A couple of things I've read online elsewhere have said blocking E was important.
 
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