Abstinence is the major weapon in defeating hair loss!!!!

[2bald2young]

No offense, I don't think you're good referece to say if it works or not, since you're on pretty strong regiment.

True, also because it is obvious to early to tell.

 

[mr the hairy monkey]

it does , once you get past the first two weeks , consider it being in the bag!

once you relapse , the vicious circle resumes its course , no matter how long you've held out.

edit : just give yourself a reason to hang on to , that's what keeps me from relapsing

 

[dehoha]

Damn, I relapsed after 2 weeks and I am on 10th day now. This takes tremendous willpower.

 

[mr the hairy monkey]

I am on my first month +2 weeks.

surprisingly enough , the more difficult moment is when you wake up with that full bladder which makes you feel like you are overloaded with sperm , when in fact only a trip to the washroom with you taking a leak would be enough to relieve you from that misleading feeling.

that's the moment when I am the most susceptible to screw it all up.


dehoha : just tell yourself that there is light at the end of the tunnel.

moreover , the reduced shedding that occurs since the first week is like an appetizer.

 

[dehoha]

Well the funny thing is, my knee has been feeling better with nofap. I've had a torn ACL/meniscus from playing basketball, which I left it untouched for a year before I had a surgery. Knee has been feeling superb and a lot more stable, which I do not think is a coincidence. Even if nofap doesn't help with hair loss, the benefits of nofap is tremendous. I can feel my body's different, especially the injured knee. I can't be delusional about injured knee

btw, some guy just rated me down for posting I am 10 days into nofap. Looks like I can't even report my status without getting rated down.

 

[2bald2young]

Well the funny thing is, my knee has been feeling better with nofap. I've had a torn ACL/meniscus from playing basketball, which I left it untouched for a year before I had a surgery. Knee has been feeling superb and a lot more stable, which I do not think is a coincidence. Even if nofap doesn't help with hair loss, the benefits of nofap is tremendous. I can feel my body's different, especially the injured knee. I can't be delusional about injured knee

btw, some guy just rated me down for posting I am 10 days into nofap. Looks like I can't even report my status without getting rated down.

Thumbs up for your knee! But seriously please don't take a arrow in the knee.

 

[mr the hairy monkey]

Well the funny thing is, my knee has been feeling better with nofap. I've had a torn ACL/meniscus from playing basketball, which I left it untouched for a year before I had a surgery. Knee has been feeling superb and a lot more stable, which I do not think is a coincidence. Even if nofap doesn't help with hair loss, the benefits of nofap is tremendous. I can feel my body's different, especially the injured knee. I can't be delusional about injured knee

btw, some guy just rated me down for posting I am 10 days into nofap. Looks like I can't even report my status without getting rated down.

I am glad to hear that your knee is doing fine then.

that guy you are refering to must be fredthebelgian

 

[mr the hairy monkey]

well , you would surely notice the difference when taking your shower and finding lots of hair in your hands.

I happened to have like 6 hair or more on my hand at the same time.

which is pretty much obvious compared to them being very few currently.

edit : not only under the shower actually , whenever I fiddle with my hair.

edit 2: @hughesa1 : forget about what I said concerning this thing being a piece of cake once you've past the two weeks checkpoint.

because at this very moment I've almost messed up a whole month achievement.

you relapsing is unpredictable , just tell yourself that you are the motherf**king boss here , not your body.

I guess I didn't succumb to it because I apprehended the remorse that it would cost me ,and for my personal integrity's sake that wouldn't have allowed me to post here again I suppose....

 

[maher]

This is from Monkeys "reputation thread" I want to post it here. Maybe someone will be interested in interpretation of famous "greek masturbation study"

maher, pretty sure that study shows high levels of androgens cause people to masturbate, not the other way around. High DHT/T causes people to masturbate, not people masturbating causes high DHT. You are a moron

It is not even that difficult to read it

I negged you good luck on your 4 red bars

study:http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2549675/pdf/bmj00593-0017.pdf

OMG.. Where is your MENSA membership card? I wanna hang myself right now.:wow: Whats the point.. The stupidest post I've ever read and then you have a nerve to brag how you negged me. Not just stupid, also illiterate. Read the study.

The more you masturbate, more DHT circulate; the more DHT circulates, the more you masturbate... Its a cycle! By NoFap you "break" the cycle and stop with overproduction of DHT. In unknown amount of time DHT goes back to baseline.

Your buddy Fred also negged me. What Fred? you cant figure out the basics of statistics? you know what SD means? its standard deviation. ring a bell?? Actually its 2SD = 2sigma. What this mean is, that this study is pretty "tight." And considering there were 100 test subjects, around same age, similar lifestyle(soldiers) thats not a suprise.

1.36nmol/l >> 2sigma =.(assuming "normal" Gause distribution) = 1.36 +/- 0.028nmol/l .. dispersion of data is pretty low. Almost 95% of sample values were in that range. And thats the statistical mean(average) of increased "step" per at least 1 orgasm weekly.

Now, you probaly know what the normal DHT level,...250-990pg/l I converte this to n(nano)mol/l >> 1.47nmol/l - 4.7nmol/l.

So, endocrine system is not like linear math model, so you cant just go adding up the number of orgasms weekly, its more complex than that. But to those, who understand where Im going with this, they know what im talking about. Like I said- this study is very tight 1.36nmol/l is anything but neglectable. Its a big thing, actually.. i wonder how come this hasnt resurfaced lot sooner.

 

[Jkay]

I tried nowank for 6 weeks, normally i would wank once a day and i would lose between 50-70 hairs per day, since no wanking the hair loss per day had halved per day. So i decided to have wank daily for past 2 weeks to see if it made any difference and my hair shed went back upto 50-70 per day

 

[mr the hairy monkey]

thank you for sharing this study mr maher sir , very interesting indeed.

I find it weird though , it isn't only masturbation that could cause this ... any sexual activity could as well be the culprit , I mean having sex or masturbating would boil down to the same , as long as it involves an orgasm and that it is fiddling with your hormones.

from what I've read of dreamermerlin previous posts it seems to not be the same thing.

edit : welcome aboard Jkay !

 

[maher]

I tried nowank for 6 weeks, normally i would wank once a day and i would lose between 50-70 hairs per day, since no wanking the hair loss per day had halved per day. So i decided to have wank daily for past 2 weeks to see if it made any difference and my hair shed went back upto 50-70 per day

THANK YOU, Jkay. I also tried this "experiment" like 10 times. Always same result.

 

[The Far Side]

and have none of you found a happy medium between 6 weeks and daily? If you could get some benefit limiting it to once a week for example, rather than having to abstain for a month and a half then some of the more skepitcal people might give that a go and there'd be some more meaningful discussion in topics like this. As far as sex and masturbation boiling down to the same, I remember someone pointing out to me that there are differences (hormonal? idk, can't remember) when I asked the question "how does your body know the difference?"

 

[maher]

, I remember someone pointing out to me that there are differences (hormonal? idk, can't remember) when I asked the question "how does your body know the difference?"

Yes, oxytocin and vasopresine. Released only when interacting with another person.

 

[mr the hairy monkey]

I was on a once a week policy before what I am doing now , I kept that pace for 3months perhaps , and believe me , as soon as you remove the lid your hair will fall out.

 

[The Far Side]

I was on a once a week policy before what I am doing now , I kept that pace for 3months perhaps , and believe me , as soon as you remove the lid your hair will fall out.

I'm not sure what you mean, did once a week (rather than more often) give you any benefit? "remove the lid"?

 

[mr the hairy monkey]

the benefit is not to see your hair falling out before the 7th day , once you got past the 7th (hence have masturbated) you'll have it fallen out all the same.

so theoretically you'll have less hair falling out during a week period , than if you masturbated daily.


by remove the lid I meant beat the monkey , I don't know how I came up with this expression.

I figured removing the lid would be like "unleashing the beast in your trousers"

 

[frenchy]

but seriously, your current pollicy also inolve no sex with a women, so it can't be a long lasting treatment....(?)

 

[mr the hairy monkey]

it doesn't even involve any sex arousal actually , long lasting or not will depend on the outcomes , I could bear it and withstand the sexual envy for 4-6 months I suppose.

I lasted out more than one month ,nothing hinders me from making it to 6 months.

Besides , knowing that I am doing it for results is cheering me up.

si je vois que ça porte ses fruits pourquoi tout foutre en l'air ? au pire des cas j'aurais considérablement reduit mon rythme de masturbation.

d'ailleurs ,Je n'ai jamais fait l'amour à une femme , donc ça n'aurait rien changé à ce stade là.

 

[frenchy]

it doesn't even involve any sex arousal actually , long lasting or not will depend on the outcomes , I could bear it and withstand the sexual envy for 4-6 months I suppose.

I lasted out more than one month ,nothing hinders me from making it to 6 months.

Besides , knowing that I am doing it for results is cheering me up.

si je vois que ça porte ses fruits pourquoi tout foutre en l'air ? au pire des cas j'aurais considérablement reduit mon rythme de masturbation.

d'ailleurs ,Je n'ai jamais fait l'amour à une femme , donc ça n'aurait rien changé à ce stade là.

effectivement ça facilite les choses..dans mon cas je me vois mal dire a ma copine "fini le sexe car je fait une expérience pour garder mes cheveux" :/
i asked cauz i was just wondering if in your strategy you think stoping masturbating but keeping some sexual intercouse could still be a bit efficient on dht levels