And another NW5-6 bald PUA

[marco75]

Or maybe he's just charming, the women are attracted by the fact that he has the confidence to approach them and not take himself too seriously. Maybe some of them actually like the way he looks too...

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You would be fine with way more girls than the alternative which is to sit at home reassuring yourself that girls all hate baldness...

The ugliest guys can pick up women. I know girls who genuinely don't respond to a guys looks at all and it is all about how the guy is, the emotions they create etc. Anyone who says attraction in men and women is the exactly the same doesnt know anything about women...theres a reason that women often prefer to read a erotic literature than look at hardcore p**rn for example. Our brains our wired differently.

Women will all go for the most handsome man if they think they can get him, others will have to settle thats why you see ugly guys with girls. Looks are 99% of attraction, women will then rationalize any personality issues or bad behaviors of a hot guy. When people say they know bald guys that get hot women it's because they got lucky and are still considered handsome and women are still attracted to them, not because they have confidence.

 

[jd_uk]

Hahaha! Thank you Doctor. It's 95% similarities in the way our DNA can be analysed, that doesn't mean we're similar in terms of evolution, morals, logic, etc. But maybe you would think we're the same as it wouldn't surprise me if you also fling your **** around and yawningly scream while you masturbate in public.

I guess it was a good attempt at tediously stringing something together there, but as much as I find pro-PUA arguments to be bull****, your arguments about romantic novels are even more ridiculous.

Most pick up is marketing...but there is some great, free info out there about working on your inner game and mentality (i.e. not letting things such as hair loss destroy your self esteem) and just getting out there, being a confident guy. There is absolutely such a thing as 'game' because someone who has approached 1000 women knows a damn sight more than a guy who has approached 10. How to talk, how to touch, how to assume attraction and get her interested in ways other than looks, when to ask for the number, how to sort the date etc etc. Anyone who says there is no such thing as having good game doesn't understand women or dating. And all this BS about women simply choosing on visual, genetic indicators ...on tinder maybe. Like om the animal kingdom? In the animal kingdom i dont think the female lion cares how pretty the male is if he is more alpha than his rivals...load of BS logic on here. And really....fred wants to compare us to animals who can't talk or reason in a way that we as humans can. Crazy.

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Women will all go for the most handsome man if they think they can get him, others will have to settle thats why you see ugly guys with girls. Looks are 99% of attraction, women will then rationalize any personality issues or bad behaviors of a hot guy. When people say they know bald guys that get hot women it's because they got lucky and are still considered handsome and women are still attracted to them, not because they have confidence.

Incredible that you can summarise all women. I never knew that personality, how the woman and the man get on, the guys ambition, intellect, mindset, confidence, status, sexual ability, dominance (if she likes a sexually dominant guy) or any of these things just don't matter at all now.

And then there is looks. But looks is not all about how many working follicles there are. Yeah it helps...a lot. But i mean you've just expained everything by citing 'luck'. You know what...there are physically disabled guys out there who have pulled attractive women. Something to consider when in your mind a bald apot is the only reason you dont get the hot girl.

 

[marco75]

Most pick up is marketing...but there is some great, free info out there about working on your inner game and mentality (i.e. not letting things such as hair loss destroy your self esteem) and just getting out there, being a confident guy. There is absolutely such a thing as 'game' because someone who has approached 1000 women knows a damn sight more than a guy who has approached 10. How to talk, how to touch, how to assume attraction and get her interested in ways other than looks, when to ask for the number, how to sort the date etc etc. Anyone who says there is no such thing as having good game doesn't understand women or dating. And all this BS about women simply choosing on visual, genetic indicators ...on tinder maybe. Like om the animal kingdom? In the animal kingdom i dont think the female lion cares how pretty the male is if he is more alpha than his rivals...load of BS logic on here. And really....fred wants to compare us to animals who can't talk or reason in a way that we as humans can. Crazy.

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Incredible that you can summarise all women. I never knew that personality, how the woman and the man get on, the guys ambition, intellect, mindset, confidence, status, sexual ability, dominance (if she likes a sexually dominant guy) or any of these things just don't matter at all now.

And then there is looks. But looks is not all about how many working follicles there are. Yeah it helps...a lot. But i mean you've just expained everything by citing 'luck'. You know what...there are physically disabled guys out there who have pulled attractive women. Something to consider when in your mind a bald apot is the only reason you dont get the hot girl.

No you misunderstood, when I say luck I mean their lucky that hairloss didn't ruin their looks, i.e. good head shape, tall or handsome face etc. SO they are still able to pull hot women. You can't reduce attractiveness to single features it's the combination of everything, and even if you have text book good features they might not fit together well.

 

[jd_uk]

I've actually been with a lot of women. I'm not muscular and I'm not particularly "confident". So how did I do? Voodoo magic?

No. It's all appearance, I'm 6'3, fit (as in not fat) and not bad looking. After that, it's not rocket science, you small-talk the girl, she invites you to her place. Done.

Why do you PUA types always have to complicate everything? As if sleeping with women was some extraordinary feat that required an exceptional set of skills and killer-confidence.

Please. Humans have been doing it since the dawn of time, and they've never needed a manual or PUA gurus to do it.

Sorry, I dont believe that you have been with many women..or certainly had relationships with decent women. The way you talk is just too naive.

And you assume that i am 'a pick up guy'. I hate most of that stuff. But i do go out every friday and saturday with mates to bars and clubs and i have travelled over 30 countries and seen real life, had lots of experiences with women. Looks absolutely matter... i don't really recommend dating sites to an average looking ir short, balding guy. But real life is different. Women don't walk the streets like guys do horny and looking for eye candy... their sexual attraction is often (not always) slow burn. They can see a guy and as long as he is not the complete opposite of what they like then what he says and does can turn her on. Hell, he can even be the opposite of her type. Ive seen it happen. A 24 girl i mentioned.on another thread that i used to work with who was f*cking a 50 year old, bald lecturer. Months before i had heard her say she didnt like bald guys ...she actually did the 'ewww' thing. Got me freaking out about my minor hair loss i can tell you. Then she ends up saying how amazing this.old bald guy is in bed. I even bumped into her the other day now that she has a boyfriend (slightly balding) ...asked if she ever heard from the old guy anymore. Her response "nope...unfortunately not *laughs* i miss that sex life".

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No you misunderstood, when I say luck I mean their lucky that hairloss didn't ruin their looks, i.e. good head shape, tall or handsome face etc. SO they are still able to pull hot women. You can't reduce attractiveness to single features it's the combination of everything, and even if you have text book good features they might not fit together well.

The most objectively ugly guy in the world can get an attractive girl. Women have 'types'. I couldn't count the number of times ive heard them disagree massively with their friends over whether a guy is hot or not...guys tend to be a bit more in agreement i've found...even though we have our own tastes too.

 

[hellouser]

i actually couldn't be bothered to read past that line so haven't. Sad life you will live with that mentality.

Please don't spin this around. Why don't you just admit you deliberately live a life of delusions?

 

[marco75]

Sorry, I dont believe that you have been with many women..or certainly had relationships with decent women. The way you talk is just too naive.

And you assume that i am 'a pick up guy'. I hate most of that stuff. But i do go out every friday and saturday with mates to bars and clubs and i have travelled over 30 countries and seen real life, had lots of experiences with women. Looks absolutely matter... i don't really recommend dating sites to an average looking ir short, balding guy. But real life is different. Women don't walk the streets like guys do horny and looking for eye candy... their sexual attraction is often (not always) slow burn. They can see a guy and as long as he is not the complete opposite of what they like then what he says and does can turn her on. Hell, he can even be the opposite of her type. Ive seen it happen. A 24 girl i mentioned.on another thread that i used to work with who was f*cking a 50 year old, bald lecturer. Months before i had heard her say she didnt like bald guys ...she actually did the 'ewww' thing. Got me freaking out about my minor hair loss i can tell you. Then she ends up saying how amazing this.old bald guy is in bed. I even bumped into her the other day now that she has a boyfriend (slightly balding) ...asked if she ever heard from the old guy anymore. Her response "nope...unfortunately not *laughs* i miss that sex life".

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The most objectively ugly guy in the world can get an attractive girl. Women have 'types'. I couldn't count the number of times ive heard them disagree massively with their friends over whether a guy is hot or not...guys tend to be a bit more in agreement i've found...even though we have our own tastes too.

Ok I should say women will take into account status and wealth more than men but that would be more for longer term, in a club it's looks.

 

[nameless]

These bald pickup artist guys aren't even going to the clubs and facing real competition. They're picking up women on the street who have no other men around them and at silly non-competitive places like bookstores, which is OK but it doesn't prove they can stand up to real competition.

And it looks like some of the women they're picking out are goofy and perhaps have intellectual problems like maybe they're special education people. That gal he was spinning around is a prime example. What normal intelligent woman is going to be comfortable with a man doing that to her within minutes of meeting her. Even when I have my hair I don't go pawing women and swinging them around within minutes of meeting them. That woman must be stupid to go along with that. I don't pick on intellectually challenged women. And the woman on the white couch in the bookstore or wherever wearing the blue/black dress. She seemed out of sorts. She may be an escaped mental patient or something. I like intelligent women.

And a few of the women seemed kind of scared of him and in one case the friend of one of the women he was pestering had to come and rescue her from him because she was trying to get away and he wasn't allowing her to go. He doesn't seem to under that "No baldie" means no. When you don't let women leave that doesn't make you a pickup artist; it makes you a creepy stalker.

And we didn't see how he approached some of these women. Some of them may have simply looked lost so the were happy to have some guy stop to offer them some help and after he maybe gives them directions he maybe starts pestering them and they give him fake phone numbers to get rid of him.

 

[John McClane]

****, I'd look so ugly bald. Bigish ears, recessed chin, 5'8 height.

You can fix your chin if you want.
A guy I know did it and the result was great.
I wouldn't worry too much about the ears unless they are huge and protruding, but you can also fix them if you want, but in my experience girls barely notice ears.

 

[1knox1]

But don't worry, jd_uk's implying we could all be the guy in that YouTube video!

Just approach women confidently and "own" your baldness. You'll be fine.

Please stop. I can't breathe. Loooool

 

[shookwun]

30 day sly challenge.

Start 4 weeks out at a #4 clipper guard, and work your way down to a #1 guard followed by a bic shave the following week after.





Shave it and go sly, you will love it. I promise.

 

[hellouser]

But don't worry, jd_uk's implying we could all be the guy in that YouTube video!

Just approach women confidently and "own" your baldness. You'll be fine.

:laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

 

[shookwun]

PUA is the most clever, and tactful business approach to exploiting sexually deprived men for money :mrgreen:


Always the biggest social out casts who get into this balognie

 

[hellouser]

PUA is the most clever, and tactful business approach to exploiting sexually deprived men for money :mrgreen:


Always the biggest social out casts who get into this balognie

There's always a sucker... just look at this clip, there's PLENTY here:

[video=youtube;0hkKURdjtIQ]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0hkKURdjtIQ[/video]

 

[g.i joey]

idc what anyone says, this guy fkn killed it. Although ive always said if you're over 6'1 baldness can be overlooked by most females.

 

[shookwun]

There's always a sucker... just look at this clip, there's PLENTY here:

[video=youtube;0hkKURdjtIQ]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0hkKURdjtIQ[/video]

His scenarios, and critical approach on attraction really will convince the most naive men that they need magic tricks, tighter game, and closure to get laid :mrgreen:


Confusing basic human interaction with being some sort of quantum equation to getting laid. Normal people go out, talk to women in relevant situations, built chemistry and eventually date or become friends.


it never seizes to amaze me how people need to attend conferences, and watch end less novelty and material for basic human interaction. Socializing is a skill, and requires practice like anything else. Cringe worthy.

 

[shookwun]

Ah yes the famous 'i have a friends, that has a friend that's doing fine scenario'

Everyone seems to portray these bald heroes like they are tall, jacked, and have skulls like a Samoan.

 

[hellouser]

It's not like we need extensive courses on how to behave normally. Socializing is supposed to be instinctual.

Unless you have major behavioral dysfunctions, but then you should consult a quality mental health professional, not a "PUA guru".

How many courses and material can you produce about being f-ing normal? Don't these people ever use their intuition? Didn't they ever get feedback on their behavior?

But yeah, it's about believing there is this magic trick, "look! I have a friend (you know, that friend!) who's so ugly, yet women fall on his c*** all the time, because [starting to explain the BS secret]."

Actually, you should never have to use a course or get some help or watch these PUA scam artists. You know how people say 'just be yourself' ? Well... YEAH! Be yourself! If you need to 'game' to pickup women... when then clearly your not satisfied with yourself and the women don't like it either. But that's not to say you have to give up dignity and self respect and completely defeats the best part of being in a relationship; the fact of being COMPATIBLE! So what the hell is the point of reading books like 'The Game' by pretending to be some cocky generation-Y pseudo alpha-male douchebag JUST to get a woman... at the price of giving up everything about yourself? Now, if you wanna just get laid for a one night stand then it's a completely different conversation.

Guys like Roosh V and that Julien guy are pure scumbags... they think women are some simpleton dweebs that don't respond to mind-games. It's incredibly insulting. Women aren't stupid.

 

[blackg]

All I see is another semi attractive bald man accosting women, having stilted conversations (because of social pressure) and then getting fake phone numbers. Oh... then he kissed a cute blonde girl. WHAT?

 

[big_head]

WATCH a bald guy talk to PAID ACTRESSES and they SMILE AT HIM

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There's always a sucker... just look at this clip, there's PLENTY here:

[video=youtube;0hkKURdjtIQ]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0hkKURdjtIQ[/video]

What makes me laugh too is these guys pay around 2,000 USD for this live seminar, and then it seems they put most of the "important" stuff on youtube for free anyway.

Part of me feels bad for these guys, they're desperate and they want to improve themselves.

 

[Goldee Lox]

Not saying this dude might not be able to pick up girls.. I just always question the full validity of videos like this.