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Not saying this dude might not be able to pick up girls.. I just always question the full validity of videos like this.

Sure he can pick up girls...he has lots of money, and he got all that money from these suckers. LOL!
He's not really there to help these guys. He's there to get money from these guys so he can buy nice
stuff to use to impress women so that he'll have women. What a laugh.
 

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It's not like we need extensive courses on how to behave normally. Socializing is supposed to be instinctual.

Unless you have major behavioral dysfunctions, but then you should consult a quality mental health professional, not a "PUA guru".

How many courses and material can you produce about being f-ing normal? Don't these people ever use their intuition? Didn't they ever get feedback on their behavior?

But yeah, it's about believing there is this magic trick, "look! I have a friend (you know, that friend!) who's so ugly, yet women fall on his c*** all the time, because [starting to explain the BS secret]."

Yeah, guys with nearly full heads of hair pull this one all the time. They'll say: "Oh, my friend Tom may be bald but he pulls tons of hot women because he has confidence and a positive personality." Yet the guys who tell this story would never let themselves go bald. Gee, I wonder why.
 

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Yeah, guys with nearly full heads of hair pull this one all the time. They'll say: "Oh, my friend Tom may be bald but he pulls tons of hot women because he has confidence and a positive personality." Yet the guys who tell this story would never let themselves go bald. Gee, I wonder why.

To be fair, some people tell this story because it is true. I have known bald guys who were banging hot women. You all can deny it all you want but it is reality for those of us who have seen it from our own eyes. This weekend I was in a club. I saw a short skinny Asian dude with glasses who came to club with a blonde who was a solid 7. They were all over each other. The dude looked nerdy and had a below average face. He had a full head of hair but he was clearly below average in looks. Now all of you guys can protest and deny it all you want but it is a reality for me because it happened right in front of my eyes. I have seen average guys and sometimes below average guys pulling decent looking women far too many times to be as pessimistic as many guys on this forum.

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Yeah, guys with nearly full heads of hair pull this one all the time. They'll say: "Oh, my friend Tom may be bald but he pulls tons of hot women because he has confidence and a positive personality." Yet the guys who tell this story would never let themselves go bald. Gee, I wonder why.

Also, your argument that guys who believe bald men can get women shouldn't mind going bald is absurd. I don't want to get bald because I know it will hurt my sense of self worth and also because I want to be my best. I will give you an analogy to elucidate my point. Multi Billionaires don't want to lose their wealth and become multi millionaire, not because they think multi millionaires wouldn't be able to survive. They don't want to lose their worth and take a step down. It hurts to go down after getting used to of certain life style. Saying that bald men can get women is NOT analogous to saying that hair loss has absolutely no impact on attracting women. A lot of you guys commit fallacy of proportions when discussing this topic.
 

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Well after months of that which put a strain on my relationship my girlfriend sorta cheated on me. With a chubby amateur rugby player certainly was not balding gracefully or looking good. A little tuft of hair in the middle which he kept for dear life and bald on top. His NW4V or whatever it was sure beat my NW1-2. He sure had confidence though...finding those text messages was not easy.

Good thing she deleted the pics before you could find them.
 

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So please remain skeptical: what have you seen? It's all suppositions. You only know the truth when you're a bald guy yourself, or when you have a very close friend you can trust about telling the truth.

Yes, unknown bald or nerdy men that I see can indeed hire escorts and come to clubs with them .Thats' always a possibility. But that still doesn't change the fact that I saw few average looking bald acquaintances of mine dating some of my good looking female friends in my university. I am not saying that being bald or looking average doesn't make it difficult for a person to get a women. It definitely does. But it doesn't make it impossible. And if it's not impossible, bald men have reason to be optimistic and try.
 

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I'm kidding of course. I'd say it's five times harder to get laid for a bald guy than it is for a guy with hair.

Not impossible, but be prepare to work five times as hard and to get way more rejections. That's just how it is.

I can agree with that.
 

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I'm kidding of course. I'd say it's five times harder to get laid for a bald guy than it is for a guy with hair.

Not impossible, but be prepared to work five times as hard and to get way more rejections. That's just how it is.

When you're bald, you have a trait that's universally seen as a defect, like shortness.

And for many girls, it will just be "no" by default. No girl has "short" or "bald" on her wishlist when she shops for a boyfriend or a one night stand.

Is this any bald guy vs any guy with hair, a fat ugly short guy with hair vs a tall handsome guy with hairloss? What Norwood we talking, there are so many variables here, you should rephrase your statement it sounds like something an uneducated idiot would say.
 

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Handsome bald guys can pull, but let's be real the quality is decreased heavily. they ain't getting anything special




And that's real
 

marco75

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Handsome bald guys can pull, but let's be real the quality is decreased heavily. they ain't getting anything special




And that's real


True in a lot of cases, but same could be said for any guy that is not very handsome even with hair, i.e. average and below looking guys, short guys, fat guys etc, which is probably 90% of guys out there. Not like every guy with hair is banging hotties lol If you can pull girls your attracted to then it's all good, which im sure you guys can.
 

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You can fix your chin if you want.
A guy I know did it and the result was great.
I wouldn't worry too much about the ears unless they are huge and protruding, but you can also fix them if you want, but in my experience girls barely notice ears.

The chin is only fixable through a chin implant or a sliding genioplasty, each of which come with their own complications. Before the whole hair loss thing started, I was looking into getting a sliding genioplasty with some money I had saved up. But now my hair loss has become more of an issue for me, and my money is being saved up for experimental drugs or future treatments.

Girls barely notice ears because ears tend to go unnoticeable unless they are noticeable, and when they are noticeable, it looks bad. Further, I'd imagine those big ears will be well be accentuated from a bald scalp.
 

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ears are very often over looked when it comes to hair loss. Small ears that are tucked can make the difference between looking good and horrible with a shorter hair cut.


Big wonky ears can ruin an attractive face
 

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The chin is only fixable through a chin implant or a sliding genioplasty, each of which come with their own complications. Before the whole hair loss thing started, I was looking into getting a sliding genioplasty with some money I had saved up. But now my hair loss has become more of an issue for me, and my money is being saved up for experimental drugs or future treatments.

Girls barely notice ears because ears tend to go unnoticeable unless they are noticeable, and when they are noticeable, it looks bad. Further, I'd imagine those big ears will be well be accentuated from a bald scalp.
He doesn't have an implant, they cutted his bone and made it more prominent.
You also can grow a beard to hide your chin.
About big ears, nowadays almost all haircuts for youngster are super short on the sides and the ears are very exposed, but I never heard a negative comment on someone's ears.
Take Matt Damon: he has big ears but he looks good bald in my opinion.
 

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Is this any bald guy vs any guy with hair, a fat ugly short guy with hair vs a tall handsome guy with hairloss? What Norwood we talking, there are so many variables here, you should rephrase your statement it sounds like something an uneducated idiot would say.

I thing you misunderstood the context here. He was clearly referring to baldness as the only factor. His claim is that if two guys have the same level of face and body type, it will be about five times harder for a bald guy to get a good looking women. Of course there are other factors such as weight, height etc, but they were not into consideration. If you throw in other factors then the impact will be even more drastic. For example, if a guys goes bald and also extremely obese, in my estimation, it will be hundreds of time harder for him to get a good looking women.
 

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Trust hairlosstalk members to turn a positive thread about a bald guy picking up women better than most guys with pretty hair into THE most boring, whingy and feminine discussion i've ever read about what makes guys beautiful.
 

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Trust hairlosstalk members to turn a positive thread about a bald guy picking up women better than most guys with pretty hair into THE most boring, whingy and feminine discussion i've ever read about what makes guys beautiful.

lmaoo the worst part is you are not even exaggerating man.. its sad, but it also makes me realize that whats said on this forum isnt the general opinion, just a couple depressed guys looking for ways to feel better about themselves.

talking about chin implants, big ears lmaoo ive said it once and ill say it again, some of us members on here have bigger problems than hair loss.
 

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Trust hairlosstalk members to turn a positive thread about a bald guy picking up women better than most guys with pretty hair into THE most boring, whingy and feminine discussion i've ever read about what makes guys beautiful.

Well what the **** do you expect? Hair loss is a purely cosmetic issue. What the hell did you want the discussion to turn into? Your point was dumb to begin with. And the conversation it turned into was better than the one you initially intended as in what facial features suit a bald guy.

lmaoo the worst part is you are not even exaggerating man.. its sad, but it also makes me realize that whats said on this forum isnt the general opinion, just a couple depressed guys looking for ways to feel better about themselves.

talking about chin implants, big ears lmaoo ive said it once and ill say it again, some of us members on here have bigger problems than hair loss.

Oh ya because talking about my recessed chin and big ears makes me feel MUCH better about myself. Feeling upset about balding is the general opinion, and you're an idiot if you think otherwise. If you're comfortable with losing hair, why are you here in the first place? Go to a bar and pick up chicks with the that shining confidence and bald scalp of yours.
 

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To be fair, some people tell this story because it is true. I have known bald guys who were banging hot women. You all can deny it all you want but it is reality for those of us who have seen it from our own eyes. This weekend I was in a club. I saw a short skinny Asian dude with glasses who came to club with a blonde who was a solid 7. They were all over each other. The dude looked nerdy and had a below average face. He had a full head of hair but he was clearly below average in looks. Now all of you guys can protest and deny it all you want but it is a reality for me because it happened right in front of my eyes. I have seen average guys and sometimes below average guys pulling decent looking women far too many times to be as pessimistic as many guys on this forum.

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Also, your argument that guys who believe bald men can get women shouldn't mind going bald is absurd. I don't want to get bald because I know it will hurt my sense of self worth and also because I want to be my best. I will give you an analogy to elucidate my point. Multi Billionaires don't want to lose their wealth and become multi millionaire, not because they think multi millionaires wouldn't be able to survive. They don't want to lose their worth and take a step down. It hurts to go down after getting used to of certain life style. Saying that bald men can get women is NOT analogous to saying that hair loss has absolutely no impact on attracting women. A lot of you guys commit fallacy of proportions when discussing this topic.

Fred echoed a lot of my points here, but I'll address some of this post. Sure, some bald guys may bang hot women but it is really the exception and not the rule. One of my former close friends is actually married to a hot girl. He started losing his hair in his late teens and now shaves it down to the bone but he seemingly never let it get to him. He looks a bit like a bad-*** too. But unfortunately he is an anomaly, an exception to the rule. I wish I could be like him, but unfortunately most balding men cannot. Other friends or acquaintances have had hair loss drastically and negatively affect their lives. So much so that they wore wigs for a long time or always wear hats. I've seen hair loss erode so many men's appearances; previously great-looking guys who now look so much worse because they lost their hair. I mean, if hair loss did not have such a big effect of person's life, then none of us would even be on this forum.

Sure you may have seen average or below average guys pulling semi-hot chicks every now and again, but I still maintain that these are the few exceptions and not the norm. And as you said, this guy had a full head of hair too. Other than serious diseases and rare abnormalities, I do not know any trait that can deteriorate a person's appearance the way that hair loss does. Except maybe being fat, but that is fixable and can be changed.

The multi billionaire vs. multi millionaire comparison really isn't accurate either. Whether a multi billionaire or a multi millionaire, the person will still be extraordinarily wealthy and will likely be comfortable for the rest of their lives. Yet with regards to hair loss, I've seen previously attractive men look so much worse once they experienced significant hair loss or became bald. They look so much older and much less handsome. And this will have a massive impact on their ability to attract women since as we all know, outer looks are absolutely vital when scoring a decent looking woman.

I mean, you said that you went on finasteride before you even had any visible hair loss. I've never heard of anyone do that before. There had to have been a reason for that.
 

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I agree that 99 % of it is attraction. Girls usually decide on first look if they would hook up with you or not. I think PUA are just scammers selling the dream personalities socially awkward people want. I have pretty good game because I can be whitty and make funny connections, which obviously helps. Which 95% of the time it doesnt matter. I'd say it can only help you in a scenario when a girl is already hooking up with someone and looking to upgrade in some cases. . Most the time that doesnt even come into play. So they are basically just selling a lie theres no manual its like an X-factor in sports you either have a social personality or dont. Derek Jeter had it, most baseball players dont. You cant teach personality.

I also never understood say you use there tips or schemes score a girl. What happens down the line when you cant keep up that image or persona?
 
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