Anecdotal Evidence For Regional Variation In Online Dating Difficulty

[hairblues]

I don't remember Zircon mentioning it happened after one hour. I can't remember if Fred said that either. Most women don't give it up to a total stranger in one hour unless they are an escort who gets paid to do that. Hairblues, would you?

Full on intercouse or oral after an hour of meeting? no just makeouts/ heavy petting.

 

[hairblues]

What I might do as an experiment is take a train to Washington DC and/or NYC (cheap, fast) and swipe like a mad man to see if there is a bigger city effect.

I'm not sure if I should speak to some of these contacts I've got in LA and maybe arrange Skype dates. I go to LA a few times a year and could up that if I wanted to.

I called a girl I saw a week ago prior to going out of town. I asked how she was, etc. She said she'd be up for going out later this week. We'll see though. She might just never call back lol.

I could be wrong but i think you would do well in NYC women here like intellectual educated men.

Why do you have to travel? cant you just make a NYC profile ?

 

[Afro_Vacancy]

I could be wrong but i think you would do well in NYC women here like intellectual educated men.

Why do you have to travel? cant you just make a NYC profile ?

Modern dating apps use GPS to set location.

You old schooler you

 

[davesmith420]

What I might do as an experiment is take a train to Washington DC and/or NYC (cheap, fast) and swipe like a mad man to see if there is a bigger city effect.

I'm not sure if I should speak to some of these contacts I've got in LA and maybe arrange Skype dates. I go to LA a few times a year and could up that if I wanted to.

I called a girl I saw a week ago prior to going out of town. I asked how she was, etc. She said she'd be up for going out later this week. We'll see though. She might just never call back lol.

My sisters live in Washington DC area; I can say that I would get 30-40 matches a day there compared to like 5-10 a day in Buffalo.

 

[hairblues]

Modern dating apps use GPS to set location.

You old schooler you

i had OK cupid last summer i set it up with zip code not GPS.

 

[Afro_Vacancy]

My sisters live in Washington DC area; I can say that I would get 30-40 matches a day there compared to like 5-10 a day in Buffalo.

You look hot though.

 

[Afro_Vacancy]

i had OK cupid last summer i set it up with zip code not GPS.

Yup, OKC and POF still use zipcodes.

OkCupid is dying unfortunately. I thought it was a great site but there's just not a lot of women using it. My experience has been confirmed by others and by Google searches on the subject. It's too bad it used to be amazing.

 

[JohnsonDDG]

Yup, OKC and POF still use zipcodes.

OkCupid is dying unfortunately. I thought it was a great site but there's just not a lot of women using it. My experience has been confirmed by others and by Google searches on the subject. It's too bad it used to be amazing.

The problem I have with pof is that I get messaged by 3s but the problem is you have to respond. If you don't their algorithm will send you to the bottom of the pile.

Btw, David, did you try that tinder thing I recommended of only using the app between 7-10 in the evening?

 

[JohnsonDDG]

One time, a girl pulled me into the bushes (small woods on the campus) to have sex after... I think it was 30 minutes of conversation, we had walked together to the venue. As I was walking away from her, she ran after me and was like 'hey where you going like that?!' and started making out with me. We got out, she took my phone out of my hands and made me chase after her into the small woods.

^ Important disclaimer here, in that situation, I was 21 (during my minoxidil crazy growth phase) and looked like I was sporting a normal head of hair.

Let me think about other similar situations... there was also the meet-up I often mention, the cute Dutch girl who brought me to her place after like 2 hours of conversation (and a beer).

I also banged this cute (yeah they're always cute) Italian girl when I was in Sweden. I asked her for some information at the airport then suggested that she came to have a drink with me and my friend. After 2 hours of conversation in a local bar, we left for her place.

In 2 of these 3 situations, I was sporting a slick NW5.

So most women don't give it up to a complete stranger? Not my experience.



Let me answer for you, of course you would.

If I hadn't had those experiences, I would still think that these things don't happen and that women 'are not like that'.

I sometimes wish I didn't know this, as it makes it harder for me to trust my girlfriend. Most men don't know that women do this because almost all women will keep it a secret.

But I'm sure that guys like shook and zircon can confirm, it happens and it happens a lot. If a woman meets the right guy (her type, hot to her, available) at the right moment, she'll f*** him as fast as she can.

And of course you'll tell us that you never do that, and @David_MPN will believe you.

I won't.

f***, I want these experiences.

I usually have to go on 3-5 dates before sex.

 

[JohnsonDDG]

My rule is: if sex doesn't happen on the second date, it's a very bad sign. She doesn't want your c*** inside her and is playing with you, she just likes your attention and the fact that you're entertaining her, but she won't give anything in return. And if you push for sex, she'll call you a pervert and will tell you that she needs time.

It's BS of course, they're not inflicting that to the guys they're truly sexually attracted to.

I made a few experiment where I would give the girl the benefit of the doubts: I would go on a 3rd, 4th, 5th date with her and tried to find openings to kiss her, and nothing, nothing ever happened. Which confirms my theory that either it goes well (make-out and sex within 1-2 dates) very quickly, or it's doomed and there's nothing you can do to salvage it.

If she has her own flat, doesn't have to wake up early the next morning and she isn't inviting you for sex after your first date, she's just not sexually attracted to you, don't let any woman tell you otherwise. Going through hoops and having to go on multiple dates is the strategy women use for the beta cucks out there.

Damn, I've never had a woman fawn all over me like that. I've always had to chase.

Do you have the so called 3 date rule in Belgium?

In the UK women are considered easy if they have sex on the first date/

 

[SmoothSailing]

Damn, I've never had a woman fawn all over me like that. I've always had to chase.

Do you have the so called 3 date rule in Belgium?

In the UK women are considered easy if they have sex on the first date/

First or second date usually here in Ireland. More often second I'd say.

Usually I'd meet with someone for coffee or a drink, kiss and drop her home. Then on the next meet we'd f***.

But as I've said I know guys who meet with girls and usually f*** them on that first date. I've done it twice.

The only time I went on a third date before sex, it didn't end in sex. She ghosted me after that date, feel like she only ever half considered it.

But there is another reason you make it to the 3rd of 4th date without sex, and that's if you're not instigating properly. Maybe she wants to but is waiting for you to make a move.

 

[SmoothSailing]

That's easy to overcome, just ( ) lightly touch her, grab her hand, stroke her hair, whatever, if her reaction is like 'eeew' to any of those, you can get up and leave. Do not waste your time.

Usually I can tell from the kiss. Especially from her reaction afterwards (from my experience no matter how much they are not into you they will not turn down a kiss).

That and if she laughs just that bit too much at my jokes. If she laughs and puts her hand on you, you may as well take her into the toilet there and then (Never done this in my life).

 

[JohnsonDDG]

Never heard of that rule.

Who cares if they would be considered sl*ts? That would only happen if other people knew about it.

These three girls I mentioned above knew that nobody would ever have to know about what they did.

In fact, one of them kicked me out on the curb at 3 o' clock in the morning because she didn't want her roommates to think that she was a sl*t.

So I don't see why this 3 date rule would even matter, she would be the only one (and the guy of course) knowing about it, so she doesn't have to fear negative judgement.

Again, don't let women BS you with this nonsense. Usually women can see that 'I know' very quickly because they assume I have a lot of experience (and they would be right), so they don't even try it on me.

That's why when I asked my current girlfriend to go have sex at the back of her car on our second date, she was like: "OK ".

Can I ask if you are initiating the sex?

Do you just say at the end of the date, 'come back to mine,'?

 

[JohnsonDDG]

I just say "let's go to your place/your car" with a confident (hate that word) smile and they usually oblige, why wouldn't they? Sex is pleasurable, they find you hot, they get an opportunity to have sex with a guy that they find hot, of course they're not turning it down.

Once we're at their place/in their car, it just happens, I don't really get what you mean by 'initiating the sex'.

Haha I like it. I don't think I have the confidence to pull that off, but I like your style.

Any time I pretend to be 'cocky' or 'dominant' I come off as a dick.

 

[SmoothSailing]

Haha I like it. I don't think I have the confidence to pull that off, but I like your style.

Any time I pretend to be 'cocky' or 'dominant' I come off as a dick.

I used to be like this. The trick is not to pretend.

When I truly started to do well is when I stopped trying to do well and just decided to be my "shitty" self.

Instead of sitting there thinking "what am I going to say to her to get her to have sex with me", I'd sit there and just say whatever I felt like saying.

Do I say stupid sh*t? Yes. Do I initiate sex 'smoothly'? No.

But I don't come across as if I'm trying to hard, or as a dick. If the girl likes me she'll laugh at the dumb sh*t I say/do, if she doesn't then she won't (but it was irrelevant anyway).

 

[JohnsonDDG]

I used to be like this. The trick is not to pretend.

When I truly started to do well is when I stopped trying to do well and just decided to be my "shitty" self.

Instead of sitting there thinking "what am I going to say to her to get her to have sex with me", I'd sit there and just say whatever I felt like saying.

Do I say stupid sh*t? Yes. Do I initiate sex 'smoothly'? No.

But I don't come across as if I'm trying to hard, or as a dick. If the girl likes me she'll laugh at the dumb sh*t I say/do, if she doesn't then she won't (but it was irrelevant anyway).

Man, I'm posting on two different threads and you guys are getting all the women on this thread and on the other its a group of guys that say its impossible to get women. Wheres the middle ground on this forum?!?!

But on a serious note, I'm glad you've overcome you shyness and you are now doing well with women. That's gotta feel good.

I just want to walk down the street with a woman that I'm proud to have by my side.

 

[SmoothSailing]

Man, I'm posting on two different threads and you guys are getting all the women on this thread and on the other its a group of guys that say its impossible to get women. Wheres the middle ground on this forum?!?!

But on a serious note, I'm glad you've overcome you shyness and you are now doing well with women. That's gotta feel good.

I just want to walk down the street with a woman that I'm proud to have by my side.

Some guys can get women, other's can not. Some guys will be able to get women with a fullhead and not without. Others will be able to either way.

I'm middle ground. Trust me I don't have it easy.

Yes it felt good, but just as I was getting the hang of it my hairloss struck. I'm now responding to treatment though and hope to do well in South America when I go this summer.

But yeah curing my social anxiety was a huge win for me. I'm still a weird introverted guy, but I'm chill, not awkward and can be quite funny.

 

[JohnsonDDG]

Some guys can get women, other's can not. Some guys will be able to get women with a fullhead and not without. Others will be able to either way.

I'm middle ground. Trust me I don't have it easy.

Yes it felt good, but just as I was getting the hang of it my hairloss struck. I'm now responding to treatment though and hope to do well in South America when I go this summer.

But yeah curing my social anxiety was a huge win for me. I'm still a weird introverted guy, but I'm chill, not awkward and can be quite funny.

We sound pretty similar.

I suppose in some ways we're lucky to be in the middle ground if you can go by what we hear from the guys who are genuine incels.

 

[Afro_Vacancy]

The problem I have with pof is that I get messaged by 3s but the problem is you have to respond. If you don't their algorithm will send you to the bottom of the pile.

Btw, David, did you try that tinder thing I recommended of only using the app between 7-10 in the evening?

What seriously we actually need to respond to the 3/10 women?

Oh f*** me ...

 

[Afro_Vacancy]

Damn, I've never had a woman fawn all over me like that. I've always had to chase.

Do you have the so called 3 date rule in Belgium?

In the UK women are considered easy if they have sex on the first date/

I think the third date rule is ancient history.