I can agree with that. For flings or bar hook up, looks are extremely important. However, bars and clubs are not the only places to meet nice women. From what I have seen, average looking men have far better chance to date women through their network, for example women at work or school or the ones they meet through friends.
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I can agree with that. For flings or bar hook up, looks are extremely important. However, bars and clubs are not the only places to meet nice women. From what I have seen, average looking men have far better chance to date women through their network, for example women at work or school or the ones they meet through friends.
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I mean I wouldn't say I'm 100% behind your posts so far because from my own personal experience this sounds maybe over-the-top, in the way that I've known a few bald or ugly guys that do well with women but it's certainly rare, and you make it sound like a normal thing I think. Maybe that has just been your own personal experience and it is more normal in your life, fine.
But anyway for certain you are making way more sense than Fred and shook who are attempting to be as close-minded as ever.
Dont know anything about you here...and i know hair loss is definitely not just about attracting the opposite sex...but i have this thing for women with really short hair, shaved heads etc...if s girl was totally bald i'd probably find it hot.. don't ask me why.
I like longer hair on women.
I'm not going to deny that balding can harm a guys looks somewhat... i would absolutely love to have my 21 year old hair back...but I can't. The thing is, even with hair loss now I am probably more attractive than i was then physically. I had some acne then and dont now, i am also more muscular now with a bit of facial hair. But more than that i have experience with women which i didn't then. On a dating site i'm not going to do as well as a guy with great hair but in real life, well that gives me the opportunity to express myself, assert myself etc. That is 'game' if you like...
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I used to too. Now i like it short. Amazing how people can have different preferences aye.
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There is only one girl that I like with shorter blond hair... But she has all the other qualities EvilLocks mentioned. All of my women had beautiful long hair and still I cant get this shorter hair girl out of my head. and the last time I saw her was 2 months ago,.
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No, just no, talking is using your personality, end of.
Yes, of course you didn't before, you didn't use your personality at all, you didn't talk to them, therefore even if it's only 1% personality based, sexual attraction is not 100% looks-based. Please concede this very simple fact.
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99% of men do.
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Well that's cool but you are in an absolute minority to think so. 99% of men prefer longer hair on women. I used to have waist-length, wavy, beautiful and thick brown hair, now I have above shoulder-length thin crappy strings of "hair".
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I'm sorry, what are these numbers you write sometimes?
What is a NW2?
To be honest the guy seems pretty bald to me, also the title of the photo is "Portrait of a bald young sexy attractive man".
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Of course your Attitude, demeanor, and how socially suave you are come into play, but ONLY after she is physically interested.
Nobody is stating other wise.
You can't **** someones demeanor, attitude, and charm.
If their is no structure, then everything falls.
Of course your Attitude, demeanor, and how socially suave you are come into play, but ONLY after she is physically interested.
Nobody is stating other wise.
You can't **** someones demeanor, attitude, and charm.
If their is no structure, then everything falls.
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I wasn't saying that's what "did the trick" I'm saying it played a part, even 1%. It's very simple, you spent years not applying your personality towards women who were attracted to you, then once you did at least say something, it gave way for the physical attraction to come through. Your situation is the biggest example that could probably be found that personality plays at least some small part, yet you are still in complete in denial of it, at this point I'd say it's just to be a stubborn dick.
But fine, if you insist that literally talking to someone, in no way represents your personality, then all you've done here is showcased again how you are beyond reason.
I wouldn't say it is 99% but yeah i have heard many guys say they like long hair on girls. One girl who is one of my biggest crushes physically (despite the fact that she is probably not the nicest of people), is 30 and has very short hair...like a few inches long if that, because her hair is very thin/fine. She own a coffee shop and gets a crazy amount of male attention...so much so that she has had guys sending her dodgy messages on facebook etc or just coming in to the shop and asking her out every day. Yet i remember her telling me how she 'wished she could have long hair'. I think it must highlight her eyes/facial features more or something.
I have a friend who totally digs short hair/bald women. He drools over them.
I can genuinely say it turns me on...so much so that i started wondering 'is it because i'm losing mine...is it comforting some how or is it just something i liked anyway but never saw enough women like it previously?'
The point is, as awful a time we give ourselves...there will always be people who do just like the way we look. What we perceive as our flaws, some people, even if it is the minority, will not see it as a flaw and maybe will see it as a positive. Nothing is ever 100%.
I am sorry but I find your views extremely pessimistic. It appears that you imagine worst possible scenario and try to portray it as reality for every average looking male. I have seen bald guys dating good looking women far too many times to believe you. I will trust my own eyes over what someone is telling me on the internet. We all have our individual experiences and they shape our perception of the world.
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Exactly!
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That is a very good point, my friend.
I had this discussion before with Fred to Belgium, http://www.hairlosstalk.com/interac...-get-laid-as-a-bald-man?p=1285033#post1285033 which led to his usual arrogant responses. He's got that typical French arrogance. He won't listen, he will lecture us with his 26 years on this planet, despite some of others being alive much longer than him. In amongst his negativity there are some valid points but if he'd just listen and accept other people's experiences instead of demanding for CCTV evidence, his opinions would be far more credible. Some of the guys on this thread are speaking sense and telling the truth, yet Fred just rubbishes their opinions and what they have seen with their own ****ing eyes. He knows best at 26 years of age.
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Yep it's always the worst, most negative outlook possible, in his mind there's no other way, when it comes to this situation with average males pulling women, or when it comes to absolutely anything. With everything there's no variables, there's no decent human beings or real feelings of genuine love or human compassion, everything is about looks, sex, money, vanity, just because that's clearly how he is as a human being and seemingly his current and ex-girlfriends are (or at least what he thinks anyway). I guess it's hard for such selfish people to understand other people aren't like them.
But when it comes to Fred's experience of "reality", he proves time and time again it can't be trusted, eg.- if he sees an average guy pulling an attractive woman, unless he see's them literally ****ing it means she's just playing with him, he doesn't stand a chance etc. For the rest of the world, we know there's a good chance he probably is ****ing her.
So he, the same as anyone else, has seen just as many instances in his life of average guys pulling hot women, but in his mind he twists it so that it's irrelevant as she's just "being polite".It's a complete denial of anything that doesn't suit his concrete views, and I find that disturbing- to the point that he needs to talk to a shrink.
CCTV evidence, fantastic. I don't know if his age really matters, he was probably just as ****ed up 10 years ago and will be more in another 20
But a typical exchange with Fred rubbishing all other knowledge that doesn't suit him, which happened earlier in this thread but I can't remember who the other guy was and I won't bother actually finding it, but here's the exaggerated jist of it:
Poster: I've seen average guys and even balding guys do well with women at college regularly-
Fred: -Rubbish. False positives. Just because you see a girl laughing with a guy it doesn't mean anything.
Poster: One guy did this all the time, was always with women-
Fred: -No because they were playing and he managed to make them polite to him. Did you see them go back to the room and have sex? No because it didn't happen and never happens.
Poster: -I saw him passionately making out with these girls and leaving with them. And everyone knows they hooked up there was no denial etc.
Fred: ... *Changes topic*
This is a typical exchange, makes bold comments that he can't possibly be certain about (how the **** can you tell someone you are 100% sure they've never seen an average guy pulling? Only a madman would be so sure of something, and it's basically calling the other person a liar) and then insists he's still right until it's clear he has no way of knowing, and then either he changes the topic, or even better he demands CCTV evidence or "research" to back up things we can't possibly back up.
I don't think I've ever seen someone, in all my years of internet forum browsing, who is so stubbornly hell-bent on making every situation fit into the little negative box that he wants it to, and having absolutely no desire to want to learn anything from others, but instead push his agenda so firmly and consistently, even when he's probably aware it makes him look ridiculous at times (which is why he just changes the subject often). This kind of stubborn-ness is scary enough at any age, but you at least expect it from guys in their 60's on-wards, for a young man it's like wow, he's ****ed.
Arrogance is an awful trait but more tolerable when backed up with intelligence, however arrogance mixed with extreme ignorance and stupidity is very difficult for me to see.
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It comes down to this, women like men they find attractive, handsome etc. Hair is only one variable in ones looks and men on all hair loss spectrums can be handsome or ugly, you have ugly NW1 and ugly NW7 and handsome NW4 and ugly Norwood 5's etc etc etc. If you are not doing well with women then it could be you are not overall good looking and blaming your hair loss completely.
This talk about a women dating a bald guy would dump him if a NW1 came along it also nonsense, if a girl would do that then she would also dump a NW1 for a taller better looking NW1, and dump him for a richer taller better looking NW1 etc do you really want to be with such a superficial wh***?
Generally women would prefer someone with hair all things being equal but things are never equal one guy might be taller or be an ashole or no job or rich or handsome face or fat you get my point.
Imagine a forum for guys who earn less than 20k say. They are all on there complaining about how rich guys get all the girls and no girl will look at them because of their salary, if a girl dates them she is just being nice etc. This is patently not true and a delusion similar to the one many on here have. If you ask a women would you prefer someone on 70k or 20k they are going to say 70k, but that does not mean guys on 20k are undateable or wont have hot girlfriends. It's simply one variable. That's not to say you don't try and earn more or try meds for hair loss because it's always good to improve yourself. This forum is a great resource for info on tackling hairloss and discussing it in a sober manner but some are just deluded in both extremes (hairloss is the end, or it has no impact at all)
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I think it was blackg (or something like that, blackg sorry if this wasn't you) earlier in the thread who said something sarcastic like "You think you're getting somewhere with her, until what happens when that good looking guy walks in, player?"
Y'know because, all rooms with women in them are just waiting for the inevitable handsome NW1 to walk in, there's no point trying with any woman in any scenario because you'll never be 1st choice, so give up on it as any second now you'll be overlooked. I mean what a load of bull****. It's the kind of simple thought process that reminds me there are some real ****ing idiots around here.
As you say, nothing is as clear-cut as wanting or ditching a guy for money, looks, or personality, it depends on the woman, it depends on the guy.
When it comes to money especially, we need to stop assuming that every woman is so stupidly superficial. Without a doubt there are any amount of them lining up to be with rich guys, absolutely, but a lot realise how you can still easily end up rich, loveless, and miserable. I've known plenty who are in no way affected by things like money or status.
Now I know what a "realists" pre-determined response is to this already "Watch what she does, not what she says!" because we all see examples of rich guys with women out of their league, this does not mean that all or even the majority of women are trying to get a rich guy, it's just that rich guys are rare, money is still after all desirable, and there's enough superficial hot women to go around for all the rare ugly rich guys out there.