Baldness Makes Reddit Front Page - Ends In Failure

[buckthorn]

So basically, the truth is not to be heard.

perhaps it's up to US to MAKE the TRUTH BE HEARD.

we should start a site dedicated solely to the trauma and suicides balding has caused.

 

[Marky]

Oh i did not see the comments that were removed

I just think it bullshit that it would be cured if women had it

Women have it

And older women are the women with the money to pay for expensive cures

40% of women get hair loss.

I see older women constantly with hair loss.

Older women are the ones paying for cosmetics and treatments that cost money.

50% of women by age 50 have some hair loss.

So i just think this notion of 'if it was happening to women it would be cured' does not make sense from a practical stand point.

I see woman with hair loss but it's no where near as prevalent as with men, thus why woman are not normally associated with hair loss. Obviously they lose hair as part of the aging process and like men won't be able to maintain a teenager like hair style due to loss of density, but it's still few woman that will get down to showing scalp like men.

If someone could discover the cure for baldness he'd be the richest man/woman in the world, I think it's been pursued more than we realize but an enigma that no one has been able to solve completely.

 

[hellouser]

You really think a 60 year old doctor with tons of money, 25 year old wife and two children, cares of your balding issue.

Nobody gives a sh*t. Why else is the cure not here yet?

 

[buckthorn]

WTF do we have to lose. you all are more powerful than you think and this site us not just universal but widely accepted and recognized. It's time to force people to acknowledge the trauma caused by Androgenetic Alopecia. You, Hellouser are our leader. Once YOU get the ball rolling, I will do everything within my power to help.

 

[hairblues]

I see woman with hair loss but it's no where near as prevalent as with men, thus why woman are not normally associated with hair loss. Obviously they lose hair as part of the aging process and like men won't be able to maintain a teenager like hair style due to loss of density, but it's still few woman that will get down to showing scalp like men.

If someone could discover the cure for baldness he'd be the richest man/woman in the world, I think it's been pursued more than we realize but an enigma that no one has been able to solve completely.

Again not true

Women wear wigs

Women are told by the Doctors they go to 'get a wig'

So no offense you dont know what you are talking about.

Trust me women would PAY HUGE amounts of money for a cure to balding hair

Im not comparing the psychological or emotional trauma or acceptance

Im talking 'facts' the numbers of women with hair loss and the $$$ that would be made to cure it.

Stop looking at life through your narrow view point.

 

[hairblues]

Im sorry some of you dont feel sorry for yourselves because your balding

It turns into feeling sorry for yourselves because your 'men'.

Thats a WHOLE other issue

But to say that baldness would be cured if women have it is insulting to women.

There are other forums filled with women of ALL ages.

Women are just easier to hide it because its acceptable for women to wear wigs or get weaves.

Women are shamed by a lot of Doctors--misdiagnosed (a DR was CONVINCED i had PCOS--i dont have PCOS confirmed by many more knowledgable Dr than the quack--who also told me 'dont use minoxodil--it will ruin your hair and won't grown anything--Turns out Minoxidil is best thing to come into my life in long time and regrowing hair--but i could have gotten on it 3 years ago)--
POINT being its a problem for women too.
we are just better at hiding it

 

[hellouser]

Im sorry some of you dont feel sorry for yourselves because your balding

It turns into feeling sorry for yourselves because your 'men'.

Thats a WHOLE other issue

But to say that baldness would be cured if women have it is insulting to women.

There are other forums filled with women of ALL ages.

Women are just easier to hide it because its acceptable for women to wear wigs or get weaves.

Women are shamed by a lot of Doctors--misdiagnosed (a DR was CONVINCED i had PCOS--i dont have PCOS confirmed by many more knowledgable Dr than the quack--who also told me 'dont use minoxodil--it will ruin your hair and won't grown anything--Turns out Minoxidil is best thing to come into my life in long time and regrowing hair--but i could have gotten on it 3 years ago)--
POINT being its a problem for women too.
we are just better at hiding it

There's a TON more funding for health research that goes for women compared to men. I'd bet everything I own and both my testicles that if women were balding in the same number and more importantly to the degree as men (full on NW6 baldness), the cure would already be here.

 

[hairblues]

There's a TON more funding for health research that goes for women compared to men. I'd bet everything I own and both my testicles that if women were balding in the same number and more importantly to the degree as men (full on NW6 baldness), the cure would already be here.

Re read what i am saying to you.

I am not debating research in general

I am saying to you it is a problem for women There are TONS of women balding thinning etc to the point they have to buy wigs

I am saying to you we are SCREAMING at our Doctors for help for YEARS

They are ignoring US

Just as much a they are ignoring YOU.

So like i said you have an issue with women research in medical field--thats fine

But in this specific area 40% of women are in same boat as you all and want and need help

IF more women had hair loss there would be a cure???

How many more women need to get hair loss?

40% have it and 50% by the time they are 50 years old


AND
we spend money on sh*t cosmetically.

so yes many women do not have the hair loss as bad as men--but you think women with hair loss--even minor hair loss would not spend a fortune to get their hair back???
Look at how much we spend on cosmetics and plastic surgery.
its a market

So if 40-50% of women are in the market--this sexual bias is NOT the issue when it comes to hair loss.

 

[Marky]

You are wrong on many levels.
Yes, hair loss in women is not as prevalent as in men, but the reason they are not associated with hair loss is because it's a tabou for women! Not because they do not exist. They wear a wig OR they don't come out of the house anymore. It's not JUST as part of the aging process. We do lose hair, almost like you sometimes.
You are often complaining on this forum that people don't understand your struggle with hair loss, "it's only hair". Well, they don't just deny it, at least. Even here, people deny hair loss on women! Go check heralopecia. Tell it's not that prevalent again.
And why is that? Oh yes, on many cases, because of pills we take so we (and YOU) can have a sex life!
When it's comes to women, we don't often get the "it's only hair", but the "it's in your head"... no, it's on my sclap actually!! Try having family who want to get you a shrink apoinment... cause if you lose hair, you are surely depressed and hysterical and do that to yourself.
We also get the "it is horrible". " I could not leave like that "... hum, me neither.

Because women are left with some poor hair on their scalp they don't even deserve the word "bald"! How ironical.

What kind of f*****g world is that...

"We do lose hair, almost like you sometimes."

This is all I was saying. I've seen woman with very bad hair loss right at the front where everyone can see and very hard to conceal. But I've seen only a hand full in my 40 years existence - and an endless sea of men with receded hairlines and balding crowns - again this is why it's considered a man thing.

 

[hairblues]

"We do lose hair, almost like you sometimes."

This is all I was saying. I've seen woman with very bad hair loss right at the front where everyone can see and very hard to conceal. But I've seen only a hand full in my 40 years existence - and an endless sea of men with receded hairlines and balding crowns - again this is why it's considered a man thing.

because they are wearing really good wigs and really good hair weaves

BUT dont for a second think a woman would not trade in EVEN a $5000 human hair virgin top of the line wig in for her own hair back.

 

[Marky]

Again not true

Women wear wigs

Women are told by the Doctors they go to 'get a wig'

So no offense you dont know what you are talking about.

Trust me women would PAY HUGE amounts of money for a cure to balding hair

Im not comparing the psychological or emotional trauma or acceptance

Im talking 'facts' the numbers of women with hair loss and the $$$ that would be made to cure it.

Stop looking at life through your narrow view point.

And what % of woman wear wigs 10%?

Then how much more common is it for woman to cut their long hair as they age cause it frizzes from losing density - 90%?

 

[hairblues]

And what % of woman wear wigs 10%?

Then how much more common is it for woman to cut their long hair as they age cause it frizzes from losing density - 90%?

You can nit pick this all you want

The point is women are KNOWN to spend money on outrageously expensive cosmetics and creams to look and feel young and to looks and feel beautiful

The women cutting their hair as they age is an old time thing--no one does this anymore

Where the hell do you live? On a farm in Kentucky?

Women spend much more than men on cosmetics sugeries and procedures. Fact.

They would spend same money to get their hair back. Fact.

 

[Marky]

You can nit pick this all you want

The point is women are KNOWN to spend money on outrageously expensive cosmetics and creams to look and feel young and to looks and feel beautiful

The women cutting their hair as they age is an old time thing--no one does this anymore

Where the hell do you live? On a farm in Kentucky?

Women spend much more than men on cosmetics sugeries and procedures. Fact.

They would spend same money to get their hair back. Fact.

Agree. Ever been inside a vein treatment center, 95% woman.

Sorry, 90% of middle aged ladies and older are sporting either a short hair do, or at least a chopped version of their longer hair from their 20's.

And how many senior citizens have hair hanging half way down their back like teenage girls when hair was at it's peak in beauty - none, or it look like ragged cotton or a long version of a rats nest. It's all shorter permed and puffed hair with some showing very noticeable scalp. Then how man men are in this category at this age - almost all.

 

[hellouser]

"We do lose hair, almost like you sometimes."

This is all I was saying. I've seen woman with very bad hair loss right at the front where everyone can see and very hard to conceal. But I've seen only a hand full in my 40 years existence - and an endless sea of men with receded hairlines and balding crowns - again this is why it's considered a man thing.

Bingo.

 

[hairblues]

And what % of woman wear wigs 10%?

Then how much more common is it for woman to cut their long hair as they age cause it frizzes from losing density - 90%?

sounds like a growing market to me

The Global and Chinese wigs and hairpiece industry are anticipated to grow significantly over the forecast period. Rapidly increasing consumer spending on wigs and hairpieces rebounds and rising innovation in this segment is expected to propel the demand for the hair wigs industry. Continuing this trend, over the near future, the industry is projected to achieve continued growth owing to the rapidly rising disposable income, especially in the Asia-Pacific market.

Rising uses for hair extensions and hairpieces for aesthetic purposes is translating into high industry revenues. Furthermore, rising applications in the medical industry mainly by the chemotherapy patients is expected to open new avenues for growth. Advancing technologies have significantly improved synthetic-hair capabilities leading to a high demand shortly.

 

[hairblues]

Bingo.

IF the bias is for women that we are the ones who spend money--then why are they not addressing the demand from the female market place

Wig sales are up and growing

Why not go after that market.

What you say is contradictory.

 

[hellouser]

IF the bias is for women that we are the ones who spend money--then why are they not addressing the demand from the female market place

Wig sales are up and growing

Why not go after that market.

What you say is contradictory.

It's minuscule compared to men.

 

[hairblues]

It's minuscule compared to men.

40% of women
50% of women by age 50-

thats minuscule?

Im not comparing the degree of loss.

Im comparing the amount of money women would spend to keep their hair

IF a cure comes about

Don't be shocked if at least 40 % of the market is women who spend money on hair
They may not need it as much as men I'm not debating that
but they will spend it probably more so then men.

 

[hellouser]

40% of women
50% of women by age 50-

thats minuscule?

Im not comparing the degree of loss.

Im comparing the amount of money women would spend to keep their hair

IF a cure comes about

Don't be shocked if at least 40 % of the market is women who spend money on hair
They may not need it as much as men I'm not debating that
but they will spend it probably more so then men.

They'll spend it, sure, but since the numbers are lower and the degree to which women lose their hair is lower.. I've never seen a woman with a NW6 full on bald scalp. Again, if the situations were reversed, the push for a cure would be unbelievably greater. Women are constantly scrutinized for their looks, you know first hand how important it is, but severe baldness is rare with women... however with men, it's rampant, but nobody is allowed to give a sh*t about that.

 

[hairblues]

It's minuscule compared to men.

I dont know how much men would pay to upkeep their looks as a whole compared to women.

NOT debating the severity of loss.

We have forums of "bald slick guys' who would never pay for their hair

We dont have women who are slightly balding being 'okay' with their hair loss.