Baling Makes Men Look Ridiculous/laughable

[Capone]

Sure, but if you have that preexisting sensitivity then increased DHT could potentially increase your rate of hair loss.

Is there any possible way to reduce the follicles sensitivity? Or reduce the receptors in the scalp? Someone mentioned Turmeric.

 

[Cowboys fan]

Indeed. Buzzing might seem like a defeat for a balding man, but actually can seem like taking positive control. And importantly, beyond that, it's the only possible aesthetic option for an advanced baldy. It can look sharp, tidy and dominant as opposed to an old man grown out baldy look. No hair better than bad hair for sure, as we've seen, transplant videos don't always show the reality and maybe beyond Norwood 3V it's hard to have a true aesthetic result.

Balding is ugly. This ref was ridiculed for his comb over

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Beyond thick Norwood 2.5 (where minimalist comb overs are possible), it becomes harder to disguise loss without looking weak and old. Clippers is the go to choice even if it sucks and is not a grown out full head. It might look decent too.

@Exodus2011 once shared a picture with me of himself buzzed. Looked pretty neat and if one is insecure about his hair and has lost it with minimum donor resources available, spread grafts uniformly on top and shave. You didn't look "feminine" as much as you may think you did, looked good enough.

There was a video on youtube I saw a while back where some balding guys shaved their head and one transformed into hot and feedback was indicative of that from girls. One just had a bad face/head shape so balding/bald made no difference - classic pencil neck beta. In that situation you need full hair to at least keep a "cute" geeky look.

I bet ya.they didn't ridicule the guy in the first pic to his face

 

[Cowboys fan]

Yes, preferably animal fat. Dairy, red meat, etc.. all acid forming, bald contributors! Still though it’s very hard not to eat any of it.. any good recipe books?

Yeh I know it's.hard not.to.eat meat just try substituting organic soy for meat once.in a while till u get used to.it .. Stuffs not.bad if u use the right seasoning

 

[kiwipilu]

It's haloed by his dominant face somewhat and not a great angle. Feedback from neutral people (excluding pity) is still important. Sure, no one really cares if we live/die/how we present ourselves (except our family) but if you want to look and feel good - got to take on board what others say if you can't decide yourself. I agree though, it should be easy to know what works for you, but some on here don't. When what you believe looks best/worst correlates with what others say, then you know you're on the right track. When I shaved my head for surgery, the feedback I got was negative, in the sense I pulled it off, but it was a substantial fall from before. I felt the same, there was the shock element too from those who knew me so maybe that plays a small role. However, an elaborate comb over would have been worse if I was advanced in hair loss.

In some ways there is a thin like between caring too much (vanity/insecurity) and also letting yourself go.



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while discussing world cup and since this does not deserve a thread, (sorry op)...
Is it me and I'm completely made or eden hazard has something wrong going on?
maybe just the wet hairs but it's always odd to see the horseshoe pattern.
That's how it started for me so maybe I'm not that mad : P

 

[kiwipilu]

That's balding. Not only the lack of density but like you say, the horseshoe being visible.

this one as well eventhough it's directly under sunlight but when we see shiny scalp it's never a good sign.We can see he lacks density. it's odd on other pictures like interviews he looks like he has full density. powder club hrhr. But let's give him the benefit of the doubt

 

[sachalamp]

If you’re referring to multiple acts of masturbation against a single sex act (as you seem to imply later) then I agree. But I definitely produce more ejaculate with a single sex act as opposed to a single act of masturbation. Without wishing to be vulgar, it’s almost as if the vagina “draws” more out of me, which is presumably one of the reasons why it’s so much more satisfying.

With that in mind, what would you anticipate the negative effect being (if any) of masturbating once a day at most? Could there be a “safe” amount of masturbation one could indulge in?

I don't think there is because masturbation doesn't make any logical sense, it just goes against our nature and the purpose of our sex organs. And I'm saying this as a huge former masturbation/p**rn addict. p**rn especially is watching other male have sex with the woman you desire while you're masturbating near them (perspective wise). That's like cuckold 101.

Can you elaborate on what you mean here please? I’m not disagreeing, I just want to understand exactly what you mean.

I assume prolactin has a role in indicating if you actually had sex. That is, if you peak over x ammount, you did and the body registers it as such. During masturbation, you can't trigger that level even if you try, so you compulsively try and try again.

This is intuitive. The way the body feels after sex as compared with masturbation is completely different. I often feel drained after masturbation, whereas I feel energised following sex, albeit with some tiredness from the physical exertion involved.

Yes, this is related to the former point. The body knows what's up even if we think "it's just busting a nut". We have some clue that it's different (how you feel after sex is infinitely better), but we just ignore it. Like we ignore that greasy stinky fast food when we're too lazy/hungry to get a real meal. But we know immediately after it was a bad idea.

Interesting, but I would need more than just a short cartoon in order to draw any meaningful conclusions.

There are study references in those cartoons. You can search for it and even get the full text by going to http://libgen.io/scimag/ and pasting the title.

It presumes greater incidence of both hair loss in the general male population and increased frequency of masturbation. The latter element, although difficult to prove empirically, is a reasonable assumption given a greater access to pornography and more sexualised culture generally.

Well yes, that would be a big indicator, at least it was for me.

We still need to contend with why some men’s hair loss progresses at faster rates than others. Even if masturbation was a driving factor, this would still suggest some innate/inherited quality to hair loss.

That might depend on masturbation habits. I for example got a big shed when I wanked 3+times in a day (which meant about 2h of edging to hundreds of different clips/women). My scalp would get extremely oily and very itchy.

You quite reasonably state that pornography produces the same stimulus as being with a new woman. If that’s accurate, would you anticipate a man who sleeps with a new woman monthly to suffer hair problems? Or is there some protective element to sex which stops that happening?

I covered this above. I think real sex is different. But I do think excessive real sex (like compulsive) can act the same way.

Lastly, you have said that you have read anecdotes about people improving their health through abstinence from masturbation. Are you able to provide examples and how long have you personally managed to abstain from masturbation for? Is total abstinence achievable or even desirable? And is abstinence more difficult once you have already had a routine of masturbation?

I'm 31. I've been masturbating to p**rn since 13. I've had a very serious masturbation habit that was extremely difficult to stop. I'd been trying for 6 years and only recently i've been able to fully control it. I've had other addictions like hardcore gaming addiction, which was infinitely easier to stop than masturbation. Masturbation for me was by far worse and harder to stop than all of my other vices combined. I managed to abstain 3 months max but even in those times my brain rationalized seeing p**rn to "figure out why I watched". Or watch sexy pics and stay aroused, Or i'd indulge in sexual fantasies which were like mental p**rn. It's a very pervasive addiction. It feels like an arousal addiction more than anything tbh. I'd sexualize (in my brain) any interaction with the opposite sex, even talking online. Only recently i've managed to get a real clean mode.

I'm now aiming for either real sex or no sex thoughts/arousal. I want to be aroused by a real woman that's near me. As nature intended.

 

[Murkey Thumb]

I would love it if just one of these nofap masturbation hating freaks would give one little tiny fragment of scientific evidence that masturbation is bad for you or your hair, just once! But no its not going to happen because there isn't any! I could just as well come on here and say "hey folks since I stopped eating cheese my hair has improved", pathetic!

 

[Saurabhaj]

I don't think there is because masturbation doesn't make any logical sense, it just goes against our nature and the purpose of our sex organs. And I'm saying this as a huge former masturbation/p*rn addict. p*rn especially is watching other male have sex with the woman you desire while you're masturbating near them (perspective wise). That's like cuckold 101.



I assume prolactin has a role in indicating if you actually had sex. That is, if you peak over x ammount, you did and the body registers it as such. During masturbation, you can't trigger that level even if you try, so you compulsively try and try again.



Yes, this is related to the former point. The body knows what's up even if we think "it's just busting a nut". We have some clue that it's different (how you feel after sex is infinitely better), but we just ignore it. Like we ignore that greasy stinky fast food when we're too lazy/hungry to get a real meal. But we know immediately after it was a bad idea.



There are study references in those cartoons. You can search for it and even get the full text by going to http://libgen.io/scimag/ and pasting the title.



Well yes, that would be a big indicator, at least it was for me.



That might depend on masturbation habits. I for example got a big shed when I wanked 3+times in a day (which meant about 2h of edging to hundreds of different clips/women). My scalp would get extremely oily and very itchy.



I covered this above. I think real sex is different. But I do think excessive real sex (like compulsive) can act the same way.



I'm 31. I've been masturbating to p*rn since 13. I've had a very serious masturbation habit that was extremely difficult to stop. I'd been trying for 6 years and only recently i've been able to fully control it. I've had other addictions like hardcore gaming addiction, which was infinitely easier to stop than masturbation. Masturbation for me was by far worse and harder to stop than all of my other vices combined. I managed to abstain 3 months max but even in those times my brain rationalized seeing p*rn to "figure out why I watched". Or watch sexy pics and stay aroused, Or i'd indulge in sexual fantasies which were like mental p*rn. It's a very pervasive addiction. It feels like an arousal addiction more than anything tbh. I'd sexualize (in my brain) any interaction with the opposite sex, even talking online. Only recently i've managed to get a real clean mode.

I'm now aiming for either real sex or no sex thoughts/arousal. I want to be aroused by a real woman that's near me. As nature intended.

Do you have any kink?

Do you have any special category that you watched the most?

 

[Saurabhaj]

I would love it if just one of these nofap masturbation hating freaks would give one little tiny fragment of scientific evidence that masturbation is bad for you or your hair, just once! But no its not going to happen because there isn't any! I could just as well come on here and say "hey folks since I stopped eating cheese my hair has improved", pathetic!

Most of the hairloss dudes who complain about masturbation are Early onset baldness guys or those nw0 guys who want to mock young baldies.

I have seen many guys who have lost tons of hair soon within one year of marriage.
The only only scientific reason that can be Indirectly used to link baldness and acclerated hairloss is loss of zinc in semen(considering masturbation is >3 times/day.).

Stopping of masterbation surely benefit in controlling the pace of acclerated hairloss,as reported by many many people...
Don't waste time in arguing with them.
Let them decide their own acts.

There is no point in linking baldness with masturbation,those who have baldness genes are going to lose hairs anyway,sooner or later.

 

[sachalamp]

I have seen many guys who have lost tons of hair soon within one year of marriage.

You know, this is EXACTLY what I noticed too. It can't be just about sex because those guys were having sex before marriage too. Maybe it's a shift in power dynamics or something, but something does happen: either after marriage or after first child.

Most dramatic case I know is of a distant cousin aged ~28 that went NW0.5 to Norwood 7 in like 2 years (marriage+child). Good financial situation, good social support, good family support.

 

[Murkey Thumb]

Most of the hairloss dudes who complain about masturbation are Early onset baldness guys or those nw0 guys who want to mock young baldies.

I have seen many guys who have lost tons of hair soon within one year of marriage.
The only only scientific reason that can be Indirectly used to link baldness and acclerated hairloss is loss of zinc in semen(considering masturbation is >3 times/day.).

Stopping of masterbation surely benefit in controlling the pace of acclerated hairloss,as reported by many many people...
Don't waste time in arguing with them.
Let them decide their own acts.

There is no point in linking baldness with masturbation,those who have baldness genes are going to lose hairs anyway,sooner or later.

If you actually look at the medical studies, masturbation is actually good for men as it helps prevent prostate cancer. As for the Zinc loss there is not enough zinc in seamen to make the slightest difference to your hair or general health. You go bald early because it of a inherited genetic fault or disease/virus/infection nothing to do with sex.

 

[Cowboys fan]

I would love it if just one of these nofap masturbation hating freaks would give one little tiny fragment of scientific evidence that masturbation is bad for you or your hair, just once! But no its not going to happen because there isn't any! I could just as well come on here and say "hey folks since I stopped eating cheese my hair has improved", pathetic!

Your being rather harsh for someone with an oppinion different than yours . science hasn't studied it and never will. There is no money to be made off of it the side effects of over masturbation will effect some and not others. how about we just agree to disagree and end it at that

 

[Saurabhaj]

If you actually look at the medical studies, masturbation is actually good for men as it helps prevent prostate cancer. As for the Zinc loss there is not enough zinc in seamen to make the slightest difference to your hair or general health. You go bald early because it of a inherited genetic fault or disease/virus/infection nothing to do with sex.

I am not linking baldness with masturbation.
I am probably giving a distant distant possibility of acclerated hairloss with masturbation.


Prostate cancer has different etiology,like age/history/environmental factors..

 

[sachalamp]

If you actually look at the medical studies, masturbation is actually good for men as it helps prevent prostate cancer.

False.

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[Murkey Thumb]

False.

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Unfortunately the study you quoted which hit the news head lines has now been shown to be seriously flawed. If you read up on it. I agree though more research needs to be done in this area. Generally I would stick with the guidelines of no more than once a day which seems to be protective rather then harmful.

 

[sachalamp]

Unfortunately the study you quoted which hit the news head lines has now been shown to be seriously flawed. If you read up on it. I agree though more research needs to be done in this area. Generally I would stick with the guidelines of no more than once a day which seems to be protective rather then harmful.

Seriously flawed like how? Can you provide some links?

And btw, masturbation once a day is a LOT.

 

[Cowboys fan]

Seriously flawed like how? Can you provide some links?

And btw, masturbation once a day is a LOT.

Once a.day will become twice a day and will become 3times. Day so on and so forth. Then u have an addiction. May as well have one drink everyday while your at it and see how that goes to

 

[MorningGlory]

Then u have an addiction.

The word “addiction” is thrown around so easily now it’s almost lost meaning, if it ever really had one to begin with. People have habits and compulsions; very few, if any, have “addictions”. Unless its colloquial meaning is “something I enjoy doing that I find difficult to stop”.

 

[sachalamp]

The word “addiction” is thrown around so easily now it’s almost lost meaning, if it ever really had one to begin with. People have habits and compulsions; very few, if any, have “addictions”. Unless its colloquial meaning is “something I enjoy doing that I find difficult to stop”.

Addiction is very common. Whether it's food, tv, gaming, masturbation etc. There's different levels of addiction. Compulsion is part of an addiction. What you're looking for is differentiating habit from addiction.

Most telling sign of addiction is inability to stop AND (very important) inability to function at the same level without the behavior that was stopped (just stopping for X days is not proof you don't have an addiction). Other signs are not feeling the same pleasure as you used to feel or not feeling pleasure at all. There's many other signs tho.

 

[Capone]

You know, this is EXACTLY what I noticed too. It can't be just about sex because those guys were having sex before marriage too. Maybe it's a shift in power dynamics or something, but something does happen: either after marriage or after first child.

Most dramatic case I know is of a distant cousin aged ~28 that went NW0.5 to Norwood 7 in like 2 years (marriage+child). Good financial situation, good social support, good family support.

What happens when guys get married or into relationships? They get fat and lazy,, nasty junk food while watching Netflix with the misses!