Bayer Prolactin Receptor Antibody For Male And Female Pattern Hair Loss

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Honestly most of us should look forward more for SMI-1 ( Assuming it works in the same way in the long run ) to reach the grey market and be available reliably than this, as it will probably be extremely expensive.

Also any reason why we can't rub Cabergoline on our scalp? Is the mode of production of extrapituary prolactin different from regular PRL?
 

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Honestly most of us should look forward more for SMI-1 ( Assuming it works in the same way in the long run ) to reach the grey market and be available reliably than this, as it will probably be extremely expensive.

Also any reason why we can't rub Cabergoline on our scalp? Is the mode of production of extrapituary prolactin different from regular PRL?
There are different promoters for ePRL and it's not even understood yet what they all are. Dopamine only regulates pituitary prolactin.
 

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Honestly most of us should look forward more for SMI-1 ( Assuming it works in the same way in the long run ) to reach the grey market and be available reliably than this, as it will probably be extremely expensive.

Also any reason why we can't rub Cabergoline on our scalp? Is the mode of production of extrapituary prolactin different from regular PRL?
This has been answered a thousand times.

Per the BAY patent, competitive antagonists of the receptor are ineffective in the hair follicle because concentrations of prolactin are too high since it's produced within the hair follicle, and prolactin has a higher binding affinity for the receptor than the antagonists.

The BAY antibody is a non-competitive inhibitor, meaning that it doesn't have to outcompete prolactin for receptor binding. It can bind to the receptor along with prolactin and still silence it.

Therefore caber wouldn't work. I believe it's not sure yet whether SMI-1 will work on the long run.
 

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This has been answered a thousand times.

Per the BAY patent, competitive antagonists of the receptor are ineffective in the hair follicle because concentrations of prolactin are too high since it's produced within the hair follicle, and prolactin has a higher binding affinity for the receptor than the antagonists.

The BAY antibody is a non-competitive inhibitor, meaning that it doesn't have to outcompete prolactin for receptor binding. It can bind to the receptor along with prolactin and still silence it.

Therefore caber wouldn't work. I believe it's not sure yet whether SMI-1 will work on the long run.
But isn't SMI a competitive antagonist?
Also Cabergoline is a dopamine agonists, i've seen the talk about PRL produced in the hair follicle i was just wondering if the mechanism of production of extrap prl was also mediated by dopamine.
 

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But isn't SMI a competitive antagonist?
It sure is.

Per the BAY patent:
"competitive PRLR antagonists are not effective in neutralizing local PRL signaling in the hair follicle due to their negative characteristics..."

It seems SMI does not feature these negative characteristics but again, I am not convinced it will work.

About caber, many people have used it in the past and it'd be known if it were working.
 

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It sure is.

Per the BAY patent:
"competitive PRLR antagonists are not effective in neutralizing local PRL signaling in the hair follicle due to their negative characteristics..."

It seems SMI does not feature these negative characteristics but again, I am not convinced it will work.

About caber, many people have used it in the past and it'd be known if it were working.
I know, my question was a way to ask about extrapituary prolactin specifity.

But going by testimonials and picture it seems to work, to a degree at the very least.
 

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It sure is.

Per the BAY patent:
"competitive PRLR antagonists are not effective in neutralizing local PRL signaling in the hair follicle due to their negative characteristics..."

It seems SMI does not feature these negative characteristics but again, I am not convinced it will work.

About caber, many people have used it in the past and it'd be known if it were working.
SMI is effective in neutralizing local PRL signaling in murine breast tissue at least
 

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SMI is effective in neutralizing local PRL signaling in murine breast tissue at least
Hey Pegasus, how are your gains? Can you share some feedback from discord group - how are others doing on SMI? Pics would be lovely.
 

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Hey Pegasus, how are your gains? Can you share some feedback from discord group - how are others doing on SMI? Pics would be lovely.

For now, nothing more conclusive than the pictures that were already shared on the Discord.

I think we will need to wait another 2-3 months at least to assess. Most likely even longer if you factor in the fact that people plan to substantially increase their daily intake once the second group buy is dispatched (ETA: 1 month).
 

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Did anyone post this before?The upper one is male monkey and the below one is female.
 

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Did anyone post this before?The upper one is male monkey and the below one is female.
Nice find. Is there anything else there? If I am seeing this right it does look these monkeys were basically cured in 6 months, and probably would be totally cured in a year. The trichoscope appears to show regression six months after treatment is discontinued, but no further regression until after the two year mark. By year 4 there appears to be more regression. The picture after 28 weeks of treatment appears to show a nearly full head of hair. If they kept on treatment long enough for it to grow out then they may well be fully cured. These pictures indicate to me that HMI-115 turns every tiny vellus hair into a thick, terminal hair. These pictures represent the best-case scenario anticipated from analyzing the data. This is phenomenal!
 
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