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Afro_Vacancy

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Without integration and assimilation and with continued refugee creation in the rest of the world, the Muslim problem in Europe will only grow worse.

Ultimately, Europeans need to think about why their countries can't assimilate worth a damn relative to the USA/Canada, and come up with ways to fix it, or just throw in the towel and become caliphates.

Fred and Hairloss23 can start paying a dimmi tax.
 

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Without integration and assimilation and with continued refugee creation in the rest of the world, the Muslim problem in Europe will only grow worse.

Ultimately, Europeans need to think about why their countries can't assimilate worth a damn relative to the USA/Canada, and come up with ways to fix it, or just throw in the towel and become caliphates.

Fred and Hairloss23 can start paying a dimmi tax.

Lol people can assimilate, it's just a large majority of MUSLIMS can't. America has a low percentage of Muslims compared to Europe so they don't have that problem. There are 2 major minorities in the US, blacks and latinos. Neither have assimilated amazingly well into white American culture but luckily for America they tend not to blow themselves up. Chuck a bunch of Muslims in there and you have Europe on an even worse scale, it helps that neither the US, Canada or your beloved Australia have the entire Middle East on your doorstep. Your trying to blame normal European people for this, it's not our fault, yet we are the ones who suffer.
 

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I'm not blaming ordinary Europeans.

This situation is a result of policy failures.
 

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No British Indians in Leicester anymore?
Us Brits are four nationalities and cultures working together. The Welsh, English, Scots and Irish all become the united kingdom despite us having different languages, customs and norms. I think what helps is we are quite similar though. Most welsh and irish people speak English which helps. Plus the religion is mostly an off shoot of Christianity (although it doesn't work so great in n.ireland!).

In fact Bosnia is now a good example of Christians and Muslims getting along as well.

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Will the circle of violence be unbroken,
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From the sky Lord, from the sky..,
 

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This situation is a result of policy failures.

Every time there's been a major terrorist attack in the last while it's been a Muslim parasite doing it in the name of his fictional god.

Religion is not exempt from fault. I can't believe people still believe in this sky wizard bullsh*t.
 

Abu Hairy Al-Forhedi

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In fact Bosnia is now a good example of Christians and Muslims getting along as well.

Actually, Bosnia is the worst example. Decades after the war you have 3 nationalities and different religions living in enclaves. And all it takes is a spark to start another turmoil in Balkans.

Its like Hellouser said..its a parasitic religion, spreading war and mayhem since 7th century. First at Byzantine and middle east and later spreading across Africa and further north. Jihad is in their genes, "moderate" islamists light up like a light bulb when theres a source of sharia near by. They are all the same. dont fool yourself. And I'm not hating, its a historical fact. Even seen it happen.
 

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Actually, Bosnia is the worst example. Decades after the war you have 3 nationalities and different religions living in enclaves. And all it takes is a spark to start another turmoil in Balkans.

Its like Hellouser said..its a parasitic religion, spreading war and mayhem since 7th century. First at Byzantine and middle east and later spreading across Africa and further north. Jihad is in their genes, "moderate" islamists light up like a light bulb when theres a source of sharia near by. They are all the same. dont fool yourself. And I'm not hating, its a historical fact. Even seen it happen.

Oh please, just ridiculous.
 

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Actually, Bosnia is the worst example. Decades after the war you have 3 nationalities and different religions living in enclaves. And all it takes is a spark to start another turmoil in Balkans.

Its like Hellouser said..its a parasitic religion, spreading war and mayhem since 7th century. First at Byzantine and middle east and later spreading across Africa and further north. Jihad is in their genes, "moderate" islamists light up like a light bulb when theres a source of sharia near by. They are all the same. dont fool yourself. And I'm not hating, its a historical fact. Even seen it happen.

I don't believe all Muslims are all the same. But I do know that all religions, abrahamic religions especially, are a damn burden to advancement of the human race and done more damage than benefitted us at all. More people have been killed in the name of god than any other reason. Yeah, Christians had their time of violence a long time ago but today it's Islam taking centre stage for a LOT of the world's problems. USA's invasion of Iraq however is a direct result of ISIS, so the blame is on them too.

In any case.. Religion is bullsh*t.
 

Abu Hairy Al-Forhedi

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Oh please, just ridiculous.

Yea, whatever.. believe what you want to believe-- But if(when) **** hits the fan, I'm not putting my hopes into my friendly muslim neighbor. Someone mentioned Bosnia.. When war started in Bosnia, in 90s, over the night- the best friends, neighbors, coworkers became the worst enemies. Literally, people who lived across the street, knew each other for years turned against each other, escalating in worst bloodbath in Europe since WW2.
 

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He's right, I hate to say it, but he's right.

My best friend is Muslim, and I can clearly see that, if Muslims ever decided to take over Europe, he just wouldn't object.

None of the so-called "moderate" Muslims would object. Why would they?

It's the will of Allah, they're the only ones who are right and they believe in the one true religion. And this religion should rule the earth!

That's why you never, ever see these "moderate" Muslims march on the street to firmly say: "We're not like them!"

No they don't do that now, do they? Why? Because they actually passively agree with what's going on. They are like them.

Most moderate Muslims denounce ISIS and call it illegitimate and not representative of Islam in the slightest. A lot of the stuff they pull is in direct violation of the Quran, they even destroy ancient Islamic architecture.

I'm not fond of any religion, and Islam is certainly my least favourite. And I'd wager there are more ISIS sympathisers within the Muslim community than I'd like to think. But to tar ALL muslims with the same brush as ISIS is pushing it.
 

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FredTheBelgian;1309971 That's why you never said:
"moderate" Muslims march on the street to firmly say: "We're not like them![/B]"

No they don't do that now, do they? Why? Because they actually passively agree with what's going on. They are like them.


Agree. 100% true. I'm like cringing when I see them marching and that hypocritical look on their faces- They're not fooling me. Fool me once--- fool me twice.. no way.

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Most moderate Muslims denounce ISIS and call it illegitimate and not representative of Islam in the slightest. A lot of the stuff they pull is in direct violation of the Quran, they even destroy ancient Islamic architecture.

I'm not fond of any religion, and Islam is certainly my least favourite. And I'd wager there are more ISIS sympathisers within the Muslim community than I'd like to think. But to tar ALL muslims with the same brush as ISIS is pushing it.

Dude. no one even mentioned isis in this context.
 
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No British Indians in Leicester anymore?

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Will the circle of violence be unbroken,
By and by, Lord, by and by
There's a badder day come-a-bombing,
From the sky Lord, from the sky..,

Yeah we have tons of Indians in the Midlands for some reason. For whatever reason the Hindus are more integrated then then the muslim Pakistanis.
 

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He's right, I hate to say it, but he's right.

My best friend is Muslim, and I can clearly see that, if Muslims ever decided to take over Europe, he just wouldn't object.

None of the so-called "moderate" Muslims would object. Why would they?

It's the will of Allah, they're the only ones who are right and they believe in the one true religion. And this religion should rule the earth!

That's why you never, ever see these "moderate" Muslims march on the street to firmly say: "We're not like them!"

No they don't do that now, do they? Why? Because they actually passively agree with what's going on. They are like them.

Aren't muslims in Turkey, Pakistan, Middle East also targeted by these idiots who call themselves Muslims? Yes they are. Do you honestly think those victims are like: "Yeah dude, it's the will of Allah." Not at all, the same day when there were attacks in Paris there were attacks in a lot of Islamic countries. Muslims themselves are targets (not that that comes up in the news a lot, I mean bombings happen a lot in Turkey and Pakistan!).

To be honest, if some moron would plot an attack, it would be f*cked up if I, a guy who hasn't done anything, should go to march on the streets and say "Hey, I am not like that."
It happened where I live, of course, you cannot expect them to do it EVERY time an idiot plots an attack, but it did happen.
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Dude. no one even mentioned isis in this context.

ISIS is one of the organisations who plotted those attacks, ISIS is the context of those terrorist attacks in Paris and most likely today in Brussels.

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Most moderate Muslims denounce ISIS and call it illegitimate and not representative of Islam in the slightest. A lot of the stuff they pull is in direct violation of the Quran, they even destroy ancient Islamic architecture.

I'm not fond of any religion, and Islam is certainly my least favourite. And I'd wager there are more ISIS sympathisers within the Muslim community than I'd like to think. But to tar ALL muslims with the same brush as ISIS is pushing it.

Duh, someone who sees the greater picture.
 

Abu Hairy Al-Forhedi

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Aren't muslims in Turkey, Pakistan, Middle East also targeted by these idiots who call themselves Muslims? Yes they are. Do you honestly think those victims are like: "Yeah dude, it's the will of Allah." Not at all, the same day when there were attacks in Paris there were attacks in a lot of Islamic countries. Muslims themselves are targets (not that that comes up in the news a lot, I mean bombings happen a lot in Turkey and Pakistan!).

To be honest, if some moron would plot an attack, it would be f*cked up if I, a guy who hasn't done anything, should go to march on the streets and say "Hey, I am not like that."
It happened where I live, of course, you cannot expect them to do it EVERY time an idiot plots an attack, but it did happen.
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ISIS is one of the organisations who plotted those attacks, ISIS is the context of those terrorist attacks in Paris and most likely today in Brussels.

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Duh, someone who sees the greater picture.

You cant speculate what happened in Turkey. Turkey authorities aren't known by their transparency. Same as Pakistan. It could be Kurds, PKK, isis or even false flag.
This goes waayy before ISIS.
 

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You cant speculate what happened in Turkey. Turkey authorities aren't known by their transparency. Same as Pakistan. It could be Kurds, PKK, isis or even false flag.
This goes waayy before ISIS.

In Turkey yes, it goes way before that. Doesn't apply to Pakistan where children in elementary school were murdered by extremists in 2014 (fact) or the 2015 Beirut attacks. It doesn't change the fact that muslims themselves are being attacked by extremists.

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All scum.

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Iraqs daily bread.Not that western countries doesnt deserve it.
 

Abu Hairy Al-Forhedi

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Iraqs daily bread.Not that western countries doesnt deserve it.

**** that ****. Even before colonialism, tribes down there were butchering each other. You cant blame west, can't blame Sykes-Picot, cant blame capitalism.. it could have fast tracked the chain of events, but you certainly cant blame on any of this to be the cause for the ****-storm we are in.
 
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