Cruel facts I have learned about hairloss

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dudemon said:
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Why can't some of you guys accept the fact that a LOT of women find men with shaved heads sexy??

It is not BS! Ever heard of BBC (bald by choice) dudes with a full head of hair who shave every day because they know plenty of HOT ladies dig the bald look!

I totally agree. At the gym where I work out, the buffed head-shaver dudes are always hooking up with hot girl after hot girl. They consistently get the some of the hottest chicks in there. No BS.

You can still see the outlline of the hairline on these guys. It just doesnt look the same when you dont have the hairline there! You just look like a bald guy trying to act tough.

I want to get a hair transplant so I can shave my head but long enough to see my hairline. It looks masculine.
 

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Metalhead what norwood would you classify yourself as? You talk about getting hair transplant's,is your hairline that bad? I'm just curious.
 

metalheaddude

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Axl_Rose said:
Metalhead what norwood would you classify yourself as? You talk about getting hair transplant's,is your hairline that bad? I'm just curious.

Ive sent my pics to a number of hair transplant surgeons online and the general consenus is im a NW3.

What about you axl?
 

Axl_Rose

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NW2 at the moment,some thinning on the right temple more then the left. Density is good,hairline thats the problem.
 

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Why do you have Opeth's vocalist on your avatar?
Er I love the band.

Why can't some of you guys accept the fact that a LOT of women find men with shaved heads sexy??
It's true, Some women do. But for people that think you absolutely have to have hair, I think it's easier for them to think anything else just doesn't work, for anyone.

As for false bald pride..I'm sure to some degree that's true, But it isn't necessarily a bad thing, If it gives people their confidence back I think it's hard to view negatively, wallowing in self pity certainly isn't a better alternative. However some people really don't care about being bald, They just don't, it isn't some fake thing that they make up for themselves to feel better, They really just don't care about hair.
 

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nerdwood said:
Why can't some of you guys accept the fact that a LOT of women find men with shaved heads sexy??

It is not BS! Ever heard of BBC (bald by choice) dudes with a full head of hair who shave every day because they know plenty of HOT ladies dig the bald look!

Oh yeah bald by choice guys are everywhere! They're all so jealous of us. :roll:
99% of guys look much worse without hair and for every Jason Statham type there are 100 Jason Alexanders.
Yes some women may like guys with hairloss but its inspite of it not because of it.
 

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s.a.f said:
nerdwood said:
Why can't some of you guys accept the fact that a LOT of women find men with shaved heads sexy??

It is not BS! Ever heard of BBC (bald by choice) dudes with a full head of hair who shave every day because they know plenty of HOT ladies dig the bald look!

Oh yeah bald by choice guys are everywhere! They're all so jealous of us. :roll:
99% of guys look much worse without hair and for every Jason Statham type there are 100 Jason Alexanders.

Nice stats, what's your source? :mrgreen:
 

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A big part of the problem is that people without hair loss have no idea how hard it is to get it back. All they think you have to do is take this pill or get a hair transplant and wala. So when they see a bald man they think that he has no one to blame but himself for not doing something about it. They figure we have no self respect and don't care about our image, but if they realized how complicated this often loosing battle really is then perhaps they would have a little more sympathy and not BLAME us for our condition.
 

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Well, I understand where you're coming from. I hear ya with your rants. I would like to elaborate alittle on my own experience with "cruel facts about hairloss" Excuse me for being long-winded here, but I feel a need to maybe enlighten if nothing else.

First, I've had 3 hair transplant surgeries from very good surgeons. I have zero complaints with their work as it is top-notch. I wish not to reveal the surgeon's name however.

I plan on doing my 4th and final hair transplant when I can save the $$, and use up the rest of my donor hair. But, because I was a Norwood 5/6 before I started, I will always have a thin "see through" hairdo -probably even still after my final one. I gambled on taking the hair transplant route, and it probably won't pan out. Oh well, I have to complete the process, to see for myself once and for all - that it failed. (I've already spent 5 years trying to restore my baldilocks and major $$$)

You see, I've been a musician my whole life. I posted my hairloss story a while back on this website and I was scorned at and laughed at by people on this forum - who said I was a lame-*** for getting hair transplant's to try and better my music career.

Second, with that being said, maybe I was lame. We all make mistakes. But, I was not so concerned about my appearance in public as I was about it for my music career. Everybody knows that it's no-secret that in todays' music industry - it is all about looks and attractiveness. Sex sells.

I'm not young like most of you guys anymore, as my 40th B-day is right around the corner. I have pretty much given up on my true calling - music. This is mainly because I don't look good shaved, especially now w/ all the hair transplant donor scars and stuff, and I'll never be "handsome" looking - those days are behind me.

I tried the head-shaver thing before I did the hair transplant's and I didn't like my appearance. But, I still may pursue it if my 4th hair transplant doesn't improve my density enough, despite my hair transplant scars. I could make excuses for the scars like: "I had an accident at work" or whatever. I could also get tats to cover the scars - possibly, I don't know.

Third, the head-shaver routine may be the only salvation for me, and guys like me for which the hair transplant route didn't really work. (Unless HM or cell regeneration therapy such as Follica comes through). I may not look good shaved, but it might be better than going around with a "Mr. captain obvious with the I've had a hair transplant look" Or, "Mr. Baldy-doo see- through glorified comb-over" for the rest of my life - where I will get laughed at everywhere I go - not that it doesn't happen to me already.

I agree with one of the posters in the link I gave that said, "I don't care where you go for a hair transplant, or who does it, they all look obvious." It's true, pretty much for any guy who is NW5/6 and goes for transplants except for lucky, fortunate guys with lots of donor hair, or who have had exceptional results from a good surgeon, i.e. Jotronic, who looks damn good despite starting as NW5/6. But, his is the "best case scenario", most of us don't have that good of results no matter who does the surgery, because of hair type, limited donor supply, etc...

Finally, looking back on my experience, if I could do it all over again, I would have stayed away from hair transplant's. Not that they don't work, but guys who are past NW3/4 should really be careful with hair transplant's. Otherwise, they could wind up in my situation. NW4 may not even be do-able for good hair transplant results in some cases.

Unfortunately, I did not know this before I decided to jump in the chair for the first time. The first surgeon I went to didn't explain this to me - or he may have, but I didn't wan't to "hear" it.

You live, you learn!

I totally agree with you, in reality, accepting hairloss is the way to go. It is also the logical thing to do. I would love to say fu-ck it one day and just shave and not give a crap but I can't. Maybe when I get older, as you say, I will end up doing it but not when I'm in my twenties. I don't think I can handle it.

What some people need to understand - specially outsiders to the hairloss problem - is that some of us are deeply emotionally affected by this. Not all men are created equal, and like it has been stated some men really don't give a sh-it about hairloss, so they really aren't helping us by giving ''shaving'' advice. With them though, I tend to have some slight tolerance because I know they have gone through the problem so I listen even if I don't get the message.

But what really annoys the sh-it out of me is when people who are totally unaware of this hairloss problem (because they have never experienced it) - be it man or woman - tells you how to handle this. Guaranteed that the same lady who is telling you to not care about your hair is going to get her hair done that night before she goes out. If hair isn't that important then why doesn't she buzz her's and say 'fu-ck it, I can't be bothered with this hair, I'm shaving' - I bet she ain't gonna do that! She'll be like 'Oh this doesn't apply for me, because I am a woman, I need hair to look pretty'.

Well, with all this talk about equality of gender, don't you guys think that people should at least not give you so much sh-it when you are taking care of your remaining hair? Instead of making you feel like you are some sort of insecure excuse of a man for doing treatments or transplants. Oh but because you are a man you are supposed to not care... Yeah right...
 

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nerdwood said:
Why can't some of you guys accept the fact that a LOT of women find men with shaved heads sexy??

It is not BS! Ever heard of BBC (bald by choice) dudes with a full head of hair who shave every day because they know plenty of HOT ladies dig the bald look!

So are you telling me every guy looks the same? SOME GUYS look good with shaved heads (bald or not), some don't.

Or do we all look the same?

I think some people's have the most ignorant opinions and to be honest, I expect more when it comes to that, on a hairloss forum.
 

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All this conversation is not really going anywhere. Its not like you people are trying out to be the next male model or actor. I am sure if you do something positive for society, no one cares how much hair you have. If you are negative all the time, people will start to come up with reasons like it is probably due to your losing your hair or being bald because they see that as your outer shell. And those people would be right. But if makes you feel a whole lot better to rant and rave, the floor is all yours. I just wish I could read more success stories on here. I guess that is my rant. I must say I do enjoy before and after pictures of hair transplant procedures. I wish I had a Bill Gates bank account and I would start buying hair transplants for the most miserable people on here starting with Hat Prisoner. I would even buy CCS a penis enlargement surgery. For my good friend s.a.f., I will buy him a nice penthouse office so he can dish out more of his great insight. His office will be stocked with only beautiful supermodels as his help. I just hope he won't be too distracted. And for bubka, I would buy Metalheaddude a new brain. And for Cassin, I would buy him the Playboy Mansion and let him "moderate" it. And of course, I could back Kiel's multi-million dollar business and make more millions.
 

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In an ideal situation, what you say is right. But things, in real life don't always work this way.

If you are in a horrible situation and lose loved ones, yes you need to move on. But it's not always as easy as it sounds.

Yes we would all like to be rich and powerful and then "baldness" would matter less (though I would still say it matters). I mean look at Hulk Hogan. The man is famous, VERY rich, and you will rarely see him without a bandana. The guy wore it to court for christ's sake. Look at Ron Howard. Rich, famous talented director. But he is always in a hat.

People seem to care about others look unless you live in some village. People notice who has gained weight, lost weight, lost hair, grew out hair, going grey, wrinkles all of that stuff.
 

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HP, those people you used as examples are high profile people who are celebrities in the public eye and are scrutinized constantly by the enquirer and other gossip rags. Of course, they care about every aspect of their physical appearance. I am sure Hogan wants a transplant but probably thinks getting one might hinder his image. Or he wears his bandana as part of him image or his trademark. They are all in the media's eye. I do not think we forum members fit in that category. Regardless, some people including actors accept their imperfections and realize there is more to life than just feeling sorry for yourself. They use their talents in a way people respect them for their talents and not for their hair. Bruce Willis did not let his bald head prevent him from becoming famous. He figured if he needs hair for a role, he can wear a piece and if his role does not call for one, he goes natural.
 

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Nah man, he wears is because he is bald. It's that simple.

I would argue that Ron Howard is not someone the enquirer cares about. He is only a director. Not an actor. My point is that even when rich and successful and older, it STILL bothers them.

Like I said, it depends where you live to. If you live in or near a major city, then ur looks are a factor. I mean yes if ur a doctor, it doesn't. But how many people CAN become one? We are not all smart. We are not all able to handle dealing with blood. We are not all able to handle all that schooling (much less afford it).

I think if you go bald AFTER you are already in a successful career and with family, it's much easier than it happening before you get there. Going on job interviews, trying to advance, trying to meet and network all are afected by how one looks and their confidence.

Guys like Burt Reyolds have been wearing pieces forever. Why? Because they would not get the roles looking bald.
 

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I just saw the biggest f*****g spider crawling on my ceiling. I crushed that b**ch with my shoe so everyone can just relax. I won't be going to sleep tonight though... :freaked2:
 

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uncomfortable man said:
A big part of the problem is that people without hair loss have no idea how hard it is to get it back. All they think you have to do is take this pill or get a hair transplant and wala. So when they see a bald man they think that he has no one to blame but himself for not doing something about it. They figure we have no self respect and don't care about our image, but if they realized how complicated this often loosing battle really is then perhaps they would have a little more sympathy and not BLAME us for our condition.

How do you know? Have many people told you this? Have they told you that you're lazy because you're bald? I have no idea where do you guys come up with these crazy theories... :shakehead:
 

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uncomfortable man said:
I just saw the biggest f****ing spider crawling on my ceiling. I crushed that b**ch with my shoe so everyone can just relax. I won't be going to sleep tonight though... :freaked2:


Nice work! I gotta check my room every night for those little pricks! Sometimes they even find there way into my bed! I squash one of those little f-uckers at least every week. I hate spiders :(
 

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Oh yeah bald by choice guys are everywhere! They're all so jealous of us. :roll:
99% of guys look much worse without hair and for every Jason Statham type there are 100 Jason Alexanders.

lol...Thats a ridiculous number, I'd guess it's closer to 70-30.
 

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ghg said:
How do you know? Have many people told you this? Have they told you that you're lazy because you're bald? I have no idea where do you guys come up with these crazy theories... :shakehead:

I know I have heard it. I used to play ball and there were a couple of bald guys. And ignorant people would always ask them, "how come your don't get a hair transplant and get your hair back" while this guy is a Norwood 6 or NW7. They have no clue. Only people going through it know the details.
 

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HatPrisoner91 said:
ghg said:
How do you know? Have many people told you this? Have they told you that you're lazy because you're bald? I have no idea where do you guys come up with these crazy theories... :shakehead:

I know I have heard it. I used to play ball and there were a couple of bald guys. And ignorant people would always ask them, "how come your don't get a hair transplant and get your hair back" while this guy is a Norwood 6 or NW7. They have no clue. Only people going through it know the details.

Only people living in America know the details... I couldn't see that happening here in Finland. Don't know about the rest of Europe, could be different.
 
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