Disfigured Man Discovers Looks-matching: Big Think

Marky

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No it is not just an old shoe.
The point of art, in this case an old shoe in a white room, is... what does that decrepit old shoe mean to the observer??
if that old shoe means something to you you must have too much money to spend.
No typical middle class person spends a fortune on art, cause they don't have that type of money
it means something to someone in the theater of their mind cause they make it that way via their wallet size
 

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I think in USA a lot of the good little christian girls for example tend to become the really 'naughty' girls after marriage. I think they get surpressed and feel they missed out on something.

My friend was Born Again raised by her parents..they were super strict she was a virgin until she turned 18 and she went wild she became very promiscuous and she also got into acid and going to acid parties on LES where squatters would take over these empty buildings and turn them into homes (pretty nice actually lol) and she got totally into the Rave scene of early 90s...Until she got married at 24 and she was with this guy for 15 years..unfortunatly he left her but in the marriage she stayed faithful...but she always said to me she felt like those wild days it was back lash to her Mom who never let her do anything.

Being a virgin until marriage is surpressing yourself...there is a huge gape between having maybe 3 lovers before marriage and like 50..I mean young girls getting married lets say early 20s she should not have already had 50 men in her life--this would be bizarre..
but 3 lovers/boyfriends lets say for someone who is 21, I think is normal amount.

I think it depends on the society where you live of course.

I like how you often use real life stories to back up your argument. It makes it even more entertaining to read, and is of course representative at least for some, if not many real life examples(characters), especially where you live. Would like to, however, point out that something is very rarely all B&W. We almost always have huge masses of people who belong to the average, close to the median in the population, the so called grey zone. I'm saying this because the girls you are describing sounds like the typical untamable, born-wild honey, destined to a experience a promiscious period in life no matter how supressed(except from in societies where grave punishments exist). While she was probably imo destined for this, many many girls will belong to the 'grey zone' where guidelines from local society, parents, religion etc will direct them in a certain direction. Most of this girls will not stray from this path. Most. Always exceptions to the rule. And then you have girls on the other end of the equation, who are naturally very feminine, subtle, shy, loyal etc etc...These girls are mostly, whatever society, destined for very few sexual partners in life. Of course, a promiscious girl can be shy, but I'm talking about a whole set of factors making up the personality as a whole, and these factors tend to go again. Therefore, so many belong to the grey zone. Many genetical factors must be aligned so that a girl from such a conservative society becomes so promiscious.

As for your second paragraph we're very much in agreement I believe. How do I rate a girl by her sexual partner count (if I know)? Simple logic, very few factors involved. Age & count. If a women is 21 years old and has had 3 partners, to me that's very on the borderline - talking about LTR, wifey material. Why? Well, how well can she have gotton to know this man before giving it up? 1 months? 2 months? Half a year? My logic goes; if she slept with her
first boyfriend after 3 months f.ex, then if I was her I wouldn't do the same mistake again? Yes, mistake it is. Because, clearly, they are not together anymore. She gifted her intimacy to someone she obviously should not. Sex is intimate. Therefore, next time she should be careful who to bed. Learn from mistakes. What is the definition of idiocy? Do the same thing over and over again and expect different outcome. Clearly, many girls who make the first 'mistake' (most fantasize that first boyfriend will be 'man of her life'), just give the whole dream up and live a very ''liberal'' life. That's an even bigger mistake. They loose the ability to connect. One dirty drop does not pollute entire occeans, and therefore they shouldn't give everything up. One mistake I can understand. Even two, hell maybe even 5. 5 boyfriends over a period of 10 years is possible, and bad luck is not unheard of. But the explanation should be interesting. Some women choose to life another life, more free in the sexual sense, and I respect that too, but it would be foolish to expect some great connection with a man afterwards. I have learned that one must often make compromise in life, and will rarely get the best of both worlds. As long one is aware of this, one is a-ok.

Third paragraph...yes! Society will very much rule (the ones from grey zone). Most people are sheep-ish. They follow. Therefore in a society looking much like the western where there are very few consequences for ones sexual actions, behaviour will be likewise. No consequences, no boundaries. I'm not saying the one is better than the other though...
 

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I like how you often use real life stories to back up your argument. It makes it even more entertaining to read, and is of course representative at least for some, if not many real life examples(characters), especially where you live. Would like to, however, point out that something is very rarely all B&W. We almost always have huge masses of people who belong to the average, close to the median in the population, the so called grey zone. I'm saying this because the girls you are describing sounds like the typical untamable, born-wild honey, destined to a experience a promiscious period in life no matter how supressed(except from in societies where grave punishments exist). While she was probably imo destined for this, many many girls will belong to the 'grey zone' where guidelines from local society, parents, religion etc will direct them in a certain direction. Most of this girls will not stray from this path. Most. Always exceptions to the rule. And then you have girls on the other end of the equation, who are naturally very feminine, subtle, shy, loyal etc etc...These girls are mostly, whatever society, destined for very few sexual partners in life. Of course, a promiscious girl can be shy, but I'm talking about a whole set of factors making up the personality as a whole, and these factors tend to go again. Therefore, so many belong to the grey zone. Many genetical factors must be aligned so that a girl from such a conservative society becomes so promiscious.

As for your second paragraph we're very much in agreement I believe. How do I rate a girl by her sexual partner count (if I know)? Simple logic, very few factors involved. Age & count. If a women is 21 years old and has had 3 partners, to me that's very on the borderline - talking about LTR, wifey material. Why? Well, how well can she have gotton to know this man before giving it up? 1 months? 2 months? Half a year? My logic goes; if she slept with her
first boyfriend after 3 months f.ex, then if I was her I wouldn't do the same mistake again? Yes, mistake it is. Because, clearly, they are not together anymore. She gifted her intimacy to someone she obviously should not. Sex is intimate. Therefore, next time she should be careful who to bed. Learn from mistakes. What is the definition of idiocy? Do the same thing over and over again and expect different outcome. Clearly, many girls who make the first 'mistake' (most fantasize that first boyfriend will be 'man of her life'), just give the whole dream up and live a very ''liberal'' life. That's an even bigger mistake. They loose the ability to connect. One dirty drop does not pollute entire occeans, and therefore they shouldn't give everything up. One mistake I can understand. Even two, hell maybe even 5. 5 boyfriends over a period of 10 years is possible, and bad luck is not unheard of. But the explanation should be interesting. Some women choose to life another life, more free in the sexual sense, and I respect that too, but it would be foolish to expect some great connection with a man afterwards. I have learned that one must often make compromise in life, and will rarely get the best of both worlds. As long one is aware of this, one is a-ok.

Third paragraph...yes! Society will very much rule (the ones from grey zone). Most people are sheep-ish. They follow. Therefore in a society looking much like the western where there are very few consequences for ones sexual actions, behaviour will be likewise. No consequences, no boundaries. I'm not saying the one is better than the other though...

What country do you live in?
Are you religious culture?
Just curious.
 

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What country do you live in?
Are you religious culture?
Just curious.

I'm not very religious...agnostic at best. Western ancestry. But why is that important for my arguments to be wrong or right? If a monkey told me the earth was round and Elon Musk said it was flat...the earth would still be round, no?
 

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Their number was never that high, most girl had had between 3 and 10 guy in their beds. Some of them had had 15 to 25 guys but they were rare, then there is the exception out of the 87 dates I had who had had 70+ men in her bed.

Had.

I don't know why you're making me say things I'm not saying.

If girls are not banging more guys, it's simply because they're aren't many guys they're sexually interested about.

I know it's a hard pill to swallow for some, but that's just how it is, you don't to believe this, you believe that so many more girls around you are "maybe's" that you could turn into "yes" with the right amount of "awesomeness".

They don't know they want you yet but you're going to show them! You're going to prove your worth!

That's just not true. That's not how it works. It's 1 or 0, and girl don't have a lot of sex because they're not meeting that many guys that are hot to them and that they would like to f***. Why overcomplicate?
If they slept with 70 or more, that means your chance of a sexually transmitted disease is around 100%? Am I wrong?
 

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I'm not very religious...agnostic at best. Western ancestry. But why is that important for my arguments to be wrong or right? If a monkey told me the earth was round and Elon Musk said it was flat...the earth would still be round, no?

Don't be defensive its not wrong or right those are your words.
 

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I think in USA a lot of the good little christian girls for example tend to become the really 'naughty' girls after marriage. I think they get surpressed and feel they missed out on something..

This I'm sure can happen in some cases.
 

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if that old shoe means something to you you must have too much money to spend.
No typical middle class person spends a fortune on art, cause they don't have that type of money
it means something to someone in the theater of their mind cause they make it that way via their wallet size
This is a very limited way of thinking.
 

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I like how you often use real life stories to back up your argument. It makes it even more entertaining to read, and is of course representative at least for some, if not many real life examples(characters), especially where you live. Would like to, however, point out that something is very rarely all B&W. We almost always have huge masses of people who belong to the average, close to the median in the population, the so called grey zone. I'm saying this because the girls you are describing sounds like the typical untamable, born-wild honey, destined to a experience a promiscious period in life no matter how supressed(except from in societies where grave punishments exist). While she was probably imo destined for this, many many girls will belong to the 'grey zone' where guidelines from local society, parents, religion etc will direct them in a certain direction. Most of this girls will not stray from this path. Most. Always exceptions to the rule. And then you have girls on the other end of the equation, who are naturally very feminine, subtle, shy, loyal etc etc...These girls are mostly, whatever society, destined for very few sexual partners in life. Of course, a promiscious girl can be shy, but I'm talking about a whole set of factors making up the personality as a whole, and these factors tend to go again. Therefore, so many belong to the grey zone. Many genetical factors must be aligned so that a girl from such a conservative society becomes so promiscious.

As for your second paragraph we're very much in agreement I believe. How do I rate a girl by her sexual partner count (if I know)? Simple logic, very few factors involved. Age & count. If a women is 21 years old and has had 3 partners, to me that's very on the borderline - talking about LTR, wifey material. Why? Well, how well can she have gotton to know this man before giving it up? 1 months? 2 months? Half a year? My logic goes; if she slept with her
first boyfriend after 3 months f.ex, then if I was her I wouldn't do the same mistake again? Yes, mistake it is. Because, clearly, they are not together anymore. She gifted her intimacy to someone she obviously should not. Sex is intimate. Therefore, next time she should be careful who to bed. Learn from mistakes. What is the definition of idiocy? Do the same thing over and over again and expect different outcome. Clearly, many girls who make the first 'mistake' (most fantasize that first boyfriend will be 'man of her life'), just give the whole dream up and live a very ''liberal'' life. That's an even bigger mistake. They loose the ability to connect. One dirty drop does not pollute entire occeans, and therefore they shouldn't give everything up. One mistake I can understand. Even two, hell maybe even 5. 5 boyfriends over a period of 10 years is possible, and bad luck is not unheard of. But the explanation should be interesting. Some women choose to life another life, more free in the sexual sense, and I respect that too, but it would be foolish to expect some great connection with a man afterwards. I have learned that one must often make compromise in life, and will rarely get the best of both worlds. As long one is aware of this, one is a-ok.

Third paragraph...yes! Society will very much rule (the ones from grey zone). Most people are sheep-ish. They follow. Therefore in a society looking much like the western where there are very few consequences for ones sexual actions, behaviour will be likewise. No consequences, no boundaries. I'm not saying the one is better than the other though...
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She only thought that she was attracted to the guy.

Just like many girls describe the man they would be attracted to as tall, handsome, white, muscular, with brown eyes, full head of hair.

And then you see their new boyfriend a few months later: average height, dark skin, skinny, blue eyes and NW3.

I say looks and compatibility for a reason, if it was all about the quality of your aesthetics, I would just say beauty.

Sometimes girls see a conventionally gorgeous man, and they see think "wow, so attractive, I need to talk to him!"

But that doesn't mean the raw sexual attraction is going to be there once they get closer to each other.

I have an answer to everything, yes. I'm still sticking to my theories ;).

Fred I "begin" to suspect your fredpill theory has some flaws.
first you say a girl knows if she wants to f*** the guy in 3 seconds as soon as she sees him before the guy even talks.
but then you say she "only thought" she was attracted to the guy.
pretty much contradicts each other.

so women know if they want to have sex with the guy right away, just by looking at the guy, before they even talk or do anything, but then there is always the possibility they "only think" that they want him.

lol k.
 
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