Do You Think The Average Balding Guy Would Get Dumped ?

[Exodus2011]

You don't answer your own f*****g question, based on nothing, and then say "case closed".

That's just extending the presumption, you don't know sh*t about me and my empathy levels. Do you expect me to go away and start a Dante Awareness Fundraiser for you? Of course this won't be constantly at the forefront of my mind, but if you think that all attractive people instantly scoff at the thought of ugliness then you are just as much of a judgemental prick as those who laugh at you. You don't deserve abuse but if someone in the populus inevitably has to be on the receiving end, then why not you? You're just as bad as they are and you continually prove it.

I made extensive posts recently about how people "wish" ugliness away, how you consistently get this comment "I'm sure you're not that bad man" because people wish they don't have to deal with ugliness. And my point was it's such an awful trait in people that we push this idea that true ugliness can't exist because it's uncomfortable to deal with, we make hopeful assumptions about others even when they tell us how ugly they are, we still can't process it in our minds. I don't make thoughtful posts about things I don't care about.

But do I not care enough?

It doesn't matter either way whether I care and I've lowered the tone by trying to prove anything. The point is that you're so arrogantly sure about someone else's behaviour because of how they look, and this just says it all about your pure hypocrisy.

dante never judged you based on your looks

and bitter ugly people will NEVER be as bad as hot people. hot people are the ones who were jerks first. they started it. i will never really be mad at ugly people. they deserve to be bitter. i've actually extensively considered beating the sh*t out of multiple hot people with some ugly buddies but thats a story for another day haha.

 

[Afro_Vacancy]

Improvement in any area is great and the hallmark of someone taking control of their life. And it definitely is the case that you're improving so I hope this continues! Good luck with the invisalign sure it will be fine. I wear waist 30 and I remember a period where 32 were a little more comfortable but ultimately I've been steady: never fat or skinny. I workout and maintain a fit body but I don't get the same pleasure from it as seeing my hair, face, clothes, watches. I think people who have been skinny/obese or losing something in life like hair/looks, the gym can be a saviour as it's a form of control and subsequent success. It can also be a passion. I enjoy working out now more and running outside because I am happier with my most crucial aspect: face (hair). Without it, it was a different kind of escape.

Can you post a picture of one of your sexy watches?

 

[Rudiger]

I never said I judge you solely based on your appearance, but rather, on the tantrums you throw to users every now and then, thinking you're always so right.

Firstly, if you're claiming that you don't regularly make blanket statements about people then you are beyond delusion. Secondly this sentence is a complete skip in logic and you've scrambled it together last second, your point is- I must not care about ugly people because I get angry with people on here? The reason I get angry with people is because I read frustrating bullshit like this. Of course I think I'm right when up against logic that isn't even explainable, and if I do think I'm right about something I'll at least explain why. Why were you so sure I mustn't give a sh*t about your experiences? Because I get angry. Ahhh but of course...

Your last sentence says it all, you've never been "proven wrong" showing that you always make the assumption first.

 

[Exodus2011]

Poor social awareness on multiple fronts, poverty, ugliness (afro/jewfro, teeth, acne issues, I was also the first person to get hairy legs), being less observant and less knowledgeable of religion, etc.

It does scar me and it affects how I see kids being raised. I think daycare and summer camp, athletic training, high-fat foods, etc are all essential.

that really sucks . i can relate in the sense that i was also bullied for looks and behavior. i was called gay, f**, homo for not being into sports and being sensitive. and racially bullied because i wasn't white or black. luckily mine was just for a year or two, i left the school to get away from it.

and that is so true it does f*** you up. it ruins your faith in humanity as it forces you to see the ugly side of it

 

[Rudiger]

dante never judged you based on your looks.

He does it literally half the time I make a point based on something he doesn't agree with, and I mean literally (but I understand you may not notice this).

In the Baldness Discrimination thread he said just that earlier "Of course he doesn't understand as a good looking NW1.5-2" but this is oddly now deleted.

 

[Rudiger]

This. Only fellow ugly incels can truly relate, emphatize and understand. And good-looking dicks love to make fun of us just for the heck of it.

Well there we go.

I'd never claim to truly understand but assuming I or anyone else could never care, that is indeed presumptuous.

 

[Afro_Vacancy]

that really sucks . i can relate in the sense that i was also bullied for looks and behavior. i was called gay, f**, homo for not being into sports and being sensitive. and racially bullied because i wasn't white or black. luckily mine was just for a year or two, i left the school to get away from it.

and that is so true it does f*** you up. it ruins your faith in humanity as it forces you to see the ugly side of it

It really sucks to have a hard time trusting people, to have this permanent cognitive tax of paranoia, and worse yet, that the paranoia is often justified.

 

[Afro_Vacancy]

Well there we go.

I'd never claim to truly understand but assuming I or anyone else could never care, that is indeed presumptuous.

I've been in multiple environments, I've been in different schools, different camps, different jobs, different cities, and I've had a variety of receptions.

What Dante writes strikes me as plausible. I've been in situations like that. It just takes one bully to shift the tides, and sometimes there's two or more. Once that bully decides to fill in the emotional gaps in their life by putting others down, they may succeed in converting other people over to their cause. I think it's very common, and if you've never seen it I'll suggest it's simply that you didn't notice.

I've been in environments where I was the victim of bullying, in that same exact environment other people legitimately thought that the place was harmonious, and they were sincere.

In a work environment with 50 people, there are 1225 relationships (50*49/2). If you're one of those 50 people, you're aware of the 49 interactions you're involved with, and a few others, certainly not 1,225-49=1,176 others, even if you have outstanding social skills, you won't notice them all. What Dante is describing may be happening at your own workplace every single day. You wouldn't necessarily notice.

The last time this happened to me was a few years ago. A woman tried to unite people against me. I was able to beat her back using secondary mechanisms -- I was literally ~7x more productive than she was, so the boss beat her down.

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Edited to fix mathematical errors.

 

[Dante92]

I've been in multiple environments, I've been in different schools, different camps, different jobs, different cities, and I've had a variety of receptions.

What Dante writes strikes me as plausible. I've been in situations like that. It just takes one bully to shift the tides, and sometimes there's two or more. Once that bully decides to fill in the emotional gaps in their life by putting others down, they may succeed in converting other people over to their cause. I think it's very common, and if you've never seen it I'll suggest it's simply that you didn't notice.

I've been in environments where I was the victim of bullying, in that same exact environment other people legitimately thought that the place was harmonious, and they were sincere.

In a work environment with 50 people, there are 1225 relationships (50*51/2). If you're one of those 50 people, you're aware of the 49 interactions you're involved with, and a few others, certainly not 1,225 others, even if you have outstanding social skills, you won't notice them all. What Dante is describing may be happening at your own workplace every single day. You wouldn't necessarily notice.

The last time this happened to me was a few years ago. A woman tried to unite people against me. I was able to beat her back using secondary mechanisms -- I was literally ~7x more productive than she was, so the boss beat her down.

Thank you. Accurate and precise, as always, as well as realistic.

 

[Rudiger]

Not sure if anyone's implying anything but to be clear, never doubted Dante's claims, I did actually ask out of curiosity and to see what people go through. David makes a great point on how people influence each other easily.

While I have faith in humanity I actually don't have a lot of faith in the vast majority of human beings, most are ruled by greed and prejudices, only showing their more vulnerable caring side because that's how you're supposed to be. Not out of any innate inherent goodness.

All I know is that for me, I recognise the cruelness I'm capable of, I don't celebrate it and am not proud of it, every person wants to feel better/less bad than those around them and the hard-wiring of a person to deal with their own problems or insecurities is to go "well at least I'm not that guy". Though crossing that line as described by Dante or David is not applicable to every single person who isn't below attractive or incel.

Overall I don't like being cruel, I reflect on it harshly and judge myself, even for just having thoughts of thinking of others as inferior. On top of that I find it incredibly childish.

 

[Exodus2011]

David in here with that beautiful mind sh*t. He lost me with the math lol

And h.l. dante is right though. Attractive people have no idea what its like to be ugly.

 

[CaptainForehead]

The last time this happened to me was a few years ago. A woman tried to unite people against me. I was able to beat her back using secondary mechanisms -- I was literally ~7x more productive than she was, so the boss beat her down.

I'm curious, could you provide more details? What kind of job was this? Why was the woman against you?

 

[CaptainForehead]

Lol, I've been doing the same lately, starring at my body in the mirror. It's surreal for me to see something else than a skinny kid, and I've been gymcelling for only 4 months.

You know what I would really like?
Have you argue with the April-2016 you about gymcelling. It would be epic.

 

[CaptainForehead]

Poor social awareness on multiple fronts, poverty, ugliness (afro/jewfro, teeth, acne issues, I was also the first person to get hairy legs), being less observant and less knowledgeable of religion, etc.

It does scar me and it affects how I see kids being raised. I think daycare and summer camp, athletic training, high-fat foods, etc are all essential.

It's interesting how a lot of us here were bullied.
I was bullied at school too (nothing to do with baldness, I was just different). I actually cut off social contact with all other kids for a couple of years.

 

[Exodus2011]

It's interesting how a lot of us here were bullied.
I was bullied at school too (nothing to do with baldness, I was just different). I actually cut off social contact with all other kids for a couple of years.

i have a hypothesis that bald men tend to extremes in genetics. we either have bad genes or good genes

because ignoring women passing down baldness and skipping generations, its either you are hot and successful enough to reproduce despite being bald , OR you settle for someone uglier, dumber and poorer

this happening over generations could make bald men tend to be zeroes or heroes

they need to do research that compares the average hotness of bald men with hair vs full heads

 

[Xander94]

Stop bully plz.

 

[plisk]

i have a hypothesis that bald men tend to extremes in genetics. we either have bad genes or good genes

because ignoring women passing down baldness and skipping generations, its either you are hot and successful enough to reproduce despite being bald , OR you settle for someone uglier, dumber and poorer

this happening over generations could make bald men tend to be zeroes or heroes

they need to do research that compares the average hotness of bald men with hair vs full heads

Good luck actually designing a reliable study for that.

It would end up like the moronic studies about women being "attracted" to good dances, where "attracted" actually means "finds it more aesthetically pleasing" which is obviously not the same thing http://thelastpsychiatrist.com/2010/09/are_people_attracted_to_good_d.html

Extrapolate this to other studies of "attraction" like where women are "attracted" to the nice, caring personality description D who pays these morons to come up with this sh*t? How do you measure attraction to a non-entity? Literally the study I am thinking of it is a DESCRIPTION of a person's personality.)

For some reason it seems unethical or verboten to design studies where you take actual objective measures of attraction using women but they are more than happy to attach nodes and wires to a man's penis and mount an eye tracker on his head and report with great detail on how much his c*** jumped around looking at pictures of scantily clad 16 year olds. Ironically, scientists today seem more afraid of female sexuality than scientists were in the 1950s despite the prevailing culture.

so instead we have this library of moronic studies like the one talked about in the link.

 

[Exodus2011]

Good luck actually designing a reliable study for that.

It would end up like the moronic studies about women being "attracted" to good dances, where "attracted" actually means "finds it more aesthetically pleasing" which is obviously not the same thing http://thelastpsychiatrist.com/2010/09/are_people_attracted_to_good_d.html

Extrapolate this to other studies of "attraction" like where women are "attracted" to the nice, caring personality description D who pays these morons to come up with this sh*t? How do you measure attraction to a non-entity? Literally the study I am thinking of it is a DESCRIPTION of a person's personality.)

For some reason it seems unethical or verboten to design studies where you take actual objective measures of attraction using women but they are more than happy to attach nodes and wires to a man's penis and mount an eye tracker on his head and report with great detail on how much his c*** jumped around looking at pictures of scantily clad 16 year olds. Ironically, scientists today seem more afraid of female sexuality than scientists were in the 1950s despite the prevailing culture.

so instead we have this library of moronic studies like the one talked about in the link.

it would be a lot more clear cut than that study though. all it would take is the usual face rating. are you suggesting direct vaginal and penile stimulation measurements though?

the nice caring guy would attract women but ofc they would have to be hot enough to be liked in the first place. not really a stretch to say most people want a compassionate partner

also that study you linked me to has a bigger issue with the way it was reported than the study itself. from those quotes the better male dancers used their head, neck and torso so i think they were focusing on the wrong thing but i guess its a bit interesting as far as what the most appealing sort of dance for women is. it's strange that they used those animated models though.

 

[Xander94]

it would be a lot more clear cut than that study though. all it would take is the usual face rating. are you suggesting direct vaginal and penile stimulation measurements though?

the nice caring guy would attract women but ofc they would have to be hot enough to be liked in the first place. not really a stretch to say most people want a compassionate partner

So you've been through it at a young age basicly bald in your 20s are the side effects worse than pfs?? Do you look in the mirror and get depressed? Or got used to it??

 

[Exodus2011]

So you've been through it at a young age basicly bald in your 20s are the side effects worse than pfs?? Do you look in the mirror and get depressed? Or got used to it??

how many times do i have to mention i started severely nw6 diffusing at 17 in high school and was totally norwood 6 bald at 21? haha. but yeah mayne it was awesome. i learned the wise lessons of character. kids for character mang